GT3 EQUALISATION / POST SEASON TEST RESULTS

GT3 EQUALISATION / POST SEASON TEST RESULTS

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adamwilcox

Original Poster:

29 posts

243 months

Monday 29th October 2007
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guyh said:
Truckosaurus said:
Has a date been mentioned for the release of the 2008 settings that will be derived from this test?
Next week I heard..
Any predictions Guy !?

SimonY

348 posts

209 months

Monday 29th October 2007
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I predict that the nicest looking cars will allowed to be the fastest


Edited by SimonY on Monday 29th October 19:07

guyh

640 posts

212 months

Tuesday 30th October 2007
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adamwilcox said:
guyh said:
Truckosaurus said:
Has a date been mentioned for the release of the 2008 settings that will be derived from this test?
Next week I heard..
Any predictions Guy !?
My prediction, is Ascari - Raised ride height and weight, Ferrari - stays the same, Lambo - gets 30kg, Aston - Lower ride height, Porsche - Twin Turbos?!!!,

Thats a guess at what might happen....

adamwilcox

Original Poster:

29 posts

243 months

Wednesday 31st October 2007
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guyh said:
adamwilcox said:
guyh said:
Truckosaurus said:
Has a date been mentioned for the release of the 2008 settings that will be derived from this test?
Next week I heard..
Any predictions Guy !?
My prediction, is Ascari - Raised ride height and weight, Ferrari - stays the same, Lambo - gets 30kg, Aston - Lower ride height, Porsche - Twin Turbos?!!!,

Thats a guess at what might happen....
Hmmm, I think Aston, Ferrari, Viper stay the same and mods to the others.

Latest Info.

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BEST TIME Rob Bell
IDEAL
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SPEEDTRAP
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Viper Competition Coupe
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1.11.652
1.10.163
-0.701
137.8
1.7
76.3

Aston Martin DBRS9
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1.10.493
1.09.711
-0.350
135.0
-1.4
77.7

Ferrari 430 GT3
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1.10.460
1.09.557
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135.6
0.6
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Mosler MT900
1.08.762
1.09.297
1.08.757
-1.400
136.1
-4.0
78.3

Ascari KZ1R
1.07.926
1.08.785
1.07.855
-3.112
139.2
3.6
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Lamborghini Gallardo GT3
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1.08.852
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136.4
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77.1

Ford Mustang FR500
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1.11.130
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137.2
NA
78.3

Ford GT
1.09.604
1.09.563
1.09.518
NA
139.8
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78.4


Simon Mason

579 posts

270 months

Wednesday 31st October 2007
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What a farce nuts

Graham

16,368 posts

285 months

Wednesday 31st October 2007
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adamwilcox said:
Cars were tested as they ran at the last race I believe,
If you believe that can you ask santa to send me a gt3 mosler for christmas.... The rumor I heard was that one team "forgot" to hobble their car and were thus rather shocked to see how quick they were hehe

Dragaan

133 posts

209 months

Wednesday 31st October 2007
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Graham said:
The rumor I heard was that one team "forgot" to hobble their car and were thus rather shocked to see how quick they were hehe
Which takes me back to my very first point, about how fair was the test in the first place. I mean, excuse me for possible ignorance here, but what was the point in an equalisation test based on allowing teams to set up their own cars, especially according to last seasons setups? Surely the better thing would have been for a base car, the same starting point for each car. No disrespect to the teams involved here but you can bet your bottom dollar that someone, somewhere along the line will have given themselves a huge advantage in this testing and I think thats been seen in the results. I would say change your sentence from 'one team "forgot" to hobble their car' to 'one team were honest in their approach to the test'.

Still, if this is the approach that the organisation wants to take, then I suggest next year that opposing teams set up each others cars. Now THAT would make for some interesting testing biggrin

Please remember though that my 'expert' opinion is exactly that...'Ex' is something that was and a 'spurt' is a drip under pressure :P

teamHOLDENracing

5,089 posts

268 months

Wednesday 31st October 2007
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When I played hockey to a fairly high standard (many years ago!)everyone in the team undertook a pretty crude fitness test at the start of pre season training (a timed run over a set distance). Several weeks later we undertook the same test to assess the improvement in fitness from the traiing we were supposed to be doing on our own between team sessions.

Funnily enough, I always showed a dramatic improvement in fitness. It doesn't tak a genius to spot it had far more to do with having not tried very hard in the first test as opposed to the intensive fitness work I had done in the intervening period.

Sound familiar....?

adamwilcox

Original Poster:

29 posts

243 months

Wednesday 31st October 2007
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Dragaan said:
Graham said:
The rumor I heard was that one team "forgot" to hobble their car and were thus rather shocked to see how quick they were hehe
Which takes me back to my very first point, about how fair was the test in the first place. I mean, excuse me for possible ignorance here, but what was the point in an equalisation test based on allowing teams to set up their own cars, especially according to last seasons setups? Surely the better thing would have been for a base car, the same starting point for each car. No disrespect to the teams involved here but you can bet your bottom dollar that someone, somewhere along the line will have given themselves a huge advantage in this testing and I think thats been seen in the results. I would say change your sentence from 'one team "forgot" to hobble their car' to 'one team were honest in their approach to the test'.

Still, if this is the approach that the organisation wants to take, then I suggest next year that opposing teams set up each others cars. Now THAT would make for some interesting testing biggrin

Please remember though that my 'expert' opinion is exactly that...'Ex' is something that was and a 'spurt' is a drip under pressure :P
All the times of the cars are being compared to that of the Qualifying performance from the race back in April 2007 and speed traps compared to, see my previous posting.

teamHOLDENracing

5,089 posts

268 months

Wednesday 31st October 2007
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adamwilcox said:
All the times of the cars are being compared to that of the Qualifying performance from the race back in April 2007 and speed traps compared to, see my previous posting.
Fair enough, but surely every team would expect to get better performance from its cars after running a full season?

Simon Mason

579 posts

270 months

Wednesday 31st October 2007
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Personaly I think this comment in Autosport says it all. and I quote ", I think every team was sandbagging, but because EVERYBODY was doing it I think the order was quite accurate" Of course with the car from the commentee being one of the best sandbagged cars that comment can be made!

Then add the Avon tyre compounds are changing for 2008 and SRO nievely trust the teams to turn up as they finished and you have the biggest joke in motorsport. Its also a fact of GT cars that some cars will be stronger at some circuits than others so why does this one test establish a balanced evaluation.

Since scrutineering in British GT does not existin any genuine form other than protest or words in ears there is no way to insure any form of balanced clarity from that test other than pure luck.

Thorney

408 posts

261 months

Wednesday 31st October 2007
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Didn't they hand each team a £15k bill at the start and a few of them refused to pay? Could be an idle rumour of course but does seem weird to have equalisation and not have all the cars there but the day would've cost a fair few quid for everyone, not least the teams themselves?

guyh

640 posts

212 months

Wednesday 31st October 2007
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I'm nearly sorted for 2008, hopefully the right choice of car!!


adamwilcox

Original Poster:

29 posts

243 months

Wednesday 31st October 2007
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guyh said:
I'm nearly sorted for 2008, hopefully the right choice of car!!
Maybe you know something we don't wobble !!?

guyh

640 posts

212 months

Wednesday 31st October 2007
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I hope!

Dragaan

133 posts

209 months

Thursday 1st November 2007
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guyh said:
I'm nearly sorted for 2008, hopefully the right choice of car!!
Apparently Guy is hoping that the flashing lights will make the drivers in front pull over and let him past....


adamwilcox

Original Poster:

29 posts

243 months

Thursday 1st November 2007
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Dragaan said:
guyh said:
I'm nearly sorted for 2008, hopefully the right choice of car!!
Apparently Guy is hoping that the flashing lights will make the drivers in front pull over and let him past....

Do you they would catch me in my 207 guy !!!!!!!!!!!???????????????

guyh

640 posts

212 months

Sunday 4th November 2007
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Dragaan said:
guyh said:
I'm nearly sorted for 2008, hopefully the right choice of car!!
Apparently Guy is hoping that the flashing lights will make the drivers in front pull over and let him past....

Well I have to try something!

guyh

640 posts

212 months

Sunday 4th November 2007
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adamwilcox said:
Dragaan said:
guyh said:
I'm nearly sorted for 2008, hopefully the right choice of car!!
Apparently Guy is hoping that the flashing lights will make the drivers in front pull over and let him past....

Do you they would catch me in my 207 guy !!!!!!!!!!!???????????????
If my TomTom had been attached to the windscreen I would have flown!

Redwood

4 posts

202 months

Wednesday 28th November 2007
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So does anyone know if there has been any equalisation measures announced following the equalisation tests?