F1 Conspiracy Theory?
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Just thought I'd run this by you all. This is from a fried of mine, who was a little upset about yesterday's outcome to say the least. He sent me this today, and I won't tell you what I think. What do you reckon? Feasible????
PS. Its a bit of a rant
TS Wrote;
I think that the F1 title was a fix ! i think McLaren were told to make sure neither driver would win the title ! look at the facts below
1. L.H only needed 2 points from 2 races to win the world title
2. second last race mclaren refused to pit LH even tho his tyres were clearly down to the white (no rubber) they let him race on for a few laps till it all want wrong.
This race his gearbox suddenly just selected neutral for 30 seconds for no reason?
4. Then they strangely pitted LH 3 times even tho F.A was on a 2 stop and F.A said at the start of the race that they were both on the same stratagy ?How on earth did they think a 3 stop was the best stratagy ? Because the 30second gearbox problem was not enough to stop LH cos he was slicing thro the field like he was on a PS2 Game!
5. Bernie Eccleston said that he wanted FA to win and then after the racesaid that he was over the moon that KR won and KR deserved to win ? What and y did LH not deserve to win ? LH has lead from almost the start of the season ? and hes a rookie ?
6. Also FA has been way off in Qualifying and not that quick in the races ?Strange ? I think that it would look bad for the sport if a driver from a team that was found guilty of cheating won the championship ? So rather than deduct points from them and spoil the best season in years, they have told McLaren that if they dont make sure that neither driver won that they would be further punishment or maybe even ban from F1. So this made a very interesting F1 season didn't it ? the outsider won from the poor cheated on Ferrari Team ! Jusitice seems to have prevaled ? more like it was cleaverly engineered !
Even the 2 BMW's and renaults have been let off for ilegal fuel temps in the race which would have put LH 4th and World Champ. It was all Fixed ! I think even LH and FA may have knew about it cos neither of them looked all that upset ? I would be VERY upset after allthat work!
PS. Its a bit of a rant
TS Wrote;
I think that the F1 title was a fix ! i think McLaren were told to make sure neither driver would win the title ! look at the facts below
1. L.H only needed 2 points from 2 races to win the world title
2. second last race mclaren refused to pit LH even tho his tyres were clearly down to the white (no rubber) they let him race on for a few laps till it all want wrong.
This race his gearbox suddenly just selected neutral for 30 seconds for no reason?
4. Then they strangely pitted LH 3 times even tho F.A was on a 2 stop and F.A said at the start of the race that they were both on the same stratagy ?How on earth did they think a 3 stop was the best stratagy ? Because the 30second gearbox problem was not enough to stop LH cos he was slicing thro the field like he was on a PS2 Game!
5. Bernie Eccleston said that he wanted FA to win and then after the racesaid that he was over the moon that KR won and KR deserved to win ? What and y did LH not deserve to win ? LH has lead from almost the start of the season ? and hes a rookie ?
6. Also FA has been way off in Qualifying and not that quick in the races ?Strange ? I think that it would look bad for the sport if a driver from a team that was found guilty of cheating won the championship ? So rather than deduct points from them and spoil the best season in years, they have told McLaren that if they dont make sure that neither driver won that they would be further punishment or maybe even ban from F1. So this made a very interesting F1 season didn't it ? the outsider won from the poor cheated on Ferrari Team ! Jusitice seems to have prevaled ? more like it was cleaverly engineered !
Even the 2 BMW's and renaults have been let off for ilegal fuel temps in the race which would have put LH 4th and World Champ. It was all Fixed ! I think even LH and FA may have knew about it cos neither of them looked all that upset ? I would be VERY upset after allthat work!
I was listening to Radio 5's 6-0-6 Podcast this morning and there were a lot of similar calls.
Fact is, Max and Bernie may be pleased that they have increased F1's audience, certainly in the UK. But when there is a widespread belief that something is up, rightly or wrongly, they won't be coming back to watch again.
Fact is, Max and Bernie may be pleased that they have increased F1's audience, certainly in the UK. But when there is a widespread belief that something is up, rightly or wrongly, they won't be coming back to watch again.
Fact is, it's time for that arse Mosley to walk away. He's ruined the sport i love with his meddling.
What's gone on behind the scenes is a mystery to all of us, but it's spoilt this season.
Mosley, you've had your time, you've almost run the sport into the floor, and you've insulted Jackie Stewart with a personal tirade, now
off.
What's gone on behind the scenes is a mystery to all of us, but it's spoilt this season.
Mosley, you've had your time, you've almost run the sport into the floor, and you've insulted Jackie Stewart with a personal tirade, now
off.You have to wonder what the FIA scrutinier was REALLY there for. Any conspiracy theory would surely have to include this guy as a plant to make sure LH experienced problems, but not enough to stop the race from being a cliff-hanger... 
FIA do love Ferrari afterall. Never has there been a scrutinier at a team before with full access to everything. I've never seen a problem with semi-automatic gearboxes that seemingly fail completely, but then recover and work perfectly for the rest of a race. BE seemed like he knew something when interviewed on the grid by Brundle, and that KR would win. He was pretty confident. Judging by the pace of LH it seems like they need to stop him now before he wins every single WDC from now until he's 38yo or something. etc. etc.
Not to mention all the other goings on befpre that race.
FIA do love Ferrari afterall. Never has there been a scrutinier at a team before with full access to everything. I've never seen a problem with semi-automatic gearboxes that seemingly fail completely, but then recover and work perfectly for the rest of a race. BE seemed like he knew something when interviewed on the grid by Brundle, and that KR would win. He was pretty confident. Judging by the pace of LH it seems like they need to stop him now before he wins every single WDC from now until he's 38yo or something. etc. etc.
Not to mention all the other goings on befpre that race.
Personally I too think something went on, but not sure how far that goes. I happened to think that if Lewis had gotten through the 1st few bends unscathed he would have been OK, but that wouldn't have stopped the g/box issue! Who knows. But what we do know is that there doesn't appear to be a better driver in F1 at the moment than Hamilton. Lets hope he kicks their arses next year!
No No. Alonso had a little handheld box in the cockpit. At the right moment, he pulled up the telescopic aerial, flipped open the switch cover, then flicked the switch... et voila!! Hamilton's gearbox was swamped with interference. James Bond and his adversaries always had that sort of thing.
Noger said:
Plausible (but I don't beleive it). Lewis into the tiny gravel trap was odd, as he didn't appear to turn the wheel whilst going round a corner. No doubt the telemetry will be "lost".
If you watch the in-car footage he applies opposite lock as the back end came round on him.And then he understeered into the gravel.
Chris
Woody said:
Noger said:
Plausible (but I don't beleive it). Lewis into the tiny gravel trap was odd, as he didn't appear to turn the wheel whilst going round a corner. No doubt the telemetry will be "lost".
If you watch the in-car footage he applies opposite lock as the back end came round on him.And then he understeered into the gravel.
Chris
Interesting Reading - Jean Todt of Ferrari to take over after Max Moseley?
In June 2004 Mosley announced that he would step down from his position in October of that year. However, in July 2004 he rescinded his decision after the FIA Senate called for him to stay on. His term expires in October 2009 although speculation remains that he will step down before that. Many insiders believe these are just part of a well crafted plan to strengthen his and Bernie Ecclestone's control over the sport. Mosley let it be known that he feels that Jean Todt should succeed him as president of the FIA when he steps down. After the controversial 2007 Formula One season Sir Jackie Stewart has called for Mosley`s resignation accusing him of making decisions 'detrimental' to the sport
In June 2004 Mosley announced that he would step down from his position in October of that year. However, in July 2004 he rescinded his decision after the FIA Senate called for him to stay on. His term expires in October 2009 although speculation remains that he will step down before that. Many insiders believe these are just part of a well crafted plan to strengthen his and Bernie Ecclestone's control over the sport. Mosley let it be known that he feels that Jean Todt should succeed him as president of the FIA when he steps down. After the controversial 2007 Formula One season Sir Jackie Stewart has called for Mosley`s resignation accusing him of making decisions 'detrimental' to the sport
some raving nutter said:
4. Then they strangely pitted LH 3 times even tho F.A was on a 2 stop and F.A said at the start of the race that they were both on the same stratagy ?How on earth did they think a 3 stop was the best stratagy ? Because the 30second gearbox problem was not enough to stop LH cos he was slicing thro the field like he was on a PS2 Game!
Lewis was faster on a 3 stop strategy than Alonso was on a 2 stopper - When they changed his strategy he was 34 seconds behind Alonso, and he finished 20 seconds behind him. Your friend is a tinfoil hat wearing nutjob.I wanted Lewis to win as much as anyone else, but it's time to accept that he threw it away on Sunday (and arguably in China too). If he'd let Alonso past at turn 3 and followed him rather than dropping to 8th, he'd be the WDC now. You can criticise the FIA for many things, but I don't think this is one of them.
Hamilton is said to have admitted accidentally putting the gearbox into 'start' mode. This and the abysmal mistake at the start was totally out of character with a driver who has driven with incredible precision all season (remember that overtake on Kimi? and compare it with his effort with Alonso)
This was the easiest race all season, he could have sat back and coasted home so what happened? pressure finally get to the lad? who knows
This was the easiest race all season, he could have sat back and coasted home so what happened? pressure finally get to the lad? who knows
Ron Dennis has just denied this rumour that came from a French Canadian newspaper.
http://formula-1.updatesport.com/news/article/1193...
http://formula-1.updatesport.com/news/article/1193...
Edited by Wanta996(Gotta) on Tuesday 23 October 16:50
jimmystratos said:
No No. Alonso had a little handheld box in the cockpit. At the right moment, he pulled up the telescopic aerial, flipped open the switch cover, then flicked the switch... et voila!! Hamilton's gearbox was swamped with interference. James Bond and his adversaries always had that sort of thing.
Well they do change engine settings by radio, but how secure are these communciations.Laird said:
Hamilton is said to have admitted accidentally putting the gearbox into 'start' mode. This and the abysmal mistake at the start was totally out of character with a driver who has driven with incredible precision all season (remember that overtake on Kimi? and compare it with his effort with Alonso)
This was the easiest race all season, he could have sat back and coasted home so what happened? pressure finally get to the lad? who knows
I seem to remember Mansell accidentally hitting a kill-switch some years ago and losing a race as a result - Wiliams moved the switch....This was the easiest race all season, he could have sat back and coasted home so what happened? pressure finally get to the lad? who knows
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