Schumacher fastest!

[TonyHetherington]

If I had to drive like a wnkr and win world titles, I would.

[Vesuvius 996]

TonyHetherington said:

If I had to drive like a wnkr and win world titles, I would.

Too easy

[TonyHetherington]

[Clark Kent]

kevin ritson said:

I see Raikkonen, Alonso and Hamilton were all present too*

• present on the beach somewhere

Indeed

a PR STUNT ?

[uktrailmonster]

Why would Ferrari need to mount a PR stunt?

[jacobyte]

uktrailmonster said:

Why would Ferrari need to mount a PR stunt?

To attract attention. It's what all teams do to ensure they have as much coverage as possible for sponsors in the off-season. Sticking Schuey in the car is very good PR for them, as it gets people talking. See, they have succeeded: we're talking about it on here!

[stuttgartmetal]

Schumi's an ex Mercedes protege.
Getting into the McLaren seat has still got to be on his radar.
There's a comment somewhere, Michael couldn't beat Lewis Hamilton.
How much is everyone up LH's backside?
Schumi would [will] knock him into a cocked hat.

As for Honda, and turning around a mid performance team, he's already done that with Ferrari, he could still do it again though.

His quick time could be light car, low fuel, quali's?
But they can all do that shirley ?

[kevin ritson]

stuttgartmetal said:

Schumi's an ex Mercedes protege.
Getting into the McLaren seat has still got to be on his radar.
There's a comment somewhere, Michael couldn't beat Lewis Hamilton.
How much is everyone up LH's backside?
Schumi would [will] knock him into a cocked hat.

I don't think he would. Why? Well:

Schumacher lost to Alonso in a straight fight in 2006 and Hamilton's performed to the same standard as Fernando in his first year
Hamilton is 22 years old, Schumacher 38. Experience counts for a lot but Hamilton has a season, and a title fight under intense pressure under his belt
Hamilton has the hunger, Michael has nothing to prove
Lewis has as much knowledge of the rule book and what is 'acceptable' as Michael does
The only question mark is setting up the car but Hamilton has enough talent as Schuey to overcome car problems

Succession. It's a tough thing, just ask Fernando Alonso.

[npope]

kevin ritson said:

stuttgartmetal said:

Schumi's an ex Mercedes protege.
Getting into the McLaren seat has still got to be on his radar.
There's a comment somewhere, Michael couldn't beat Lewis Hamilton.
How much is everyone up LH's backside?
Schumi would [will] knock him into a cocked hat.

I don't think he would. Why? Well:

Schumacher lost to Alonso in a straight fight in 2006 and Hamilton's performed to the same standard as Fernando in his first year
Hamilton is 22 years old, Schumacher 38. Experience counts for a lot but Hamilton has a season, and a title fight under intense pressure under his belt
Hamilton has the hunger, Michael has nothing to prove
Lewis has as much knowledge of the rule book and what is 'acceptable' as Michael does
The only question mark is setting up the car but Hamilton has enough talent as Schuey to overcome car problems

Succession. It's a tough thing, just ask Fernando Alonso.

Schumacher would not have choked over the last two races, with that many points lead LH choked and that is why MS is far better driver than LH at the moment. Until LH wind 7 titles you can not compare the two.

Edited by npope on Thursday 15th November 13:04

[SuperKartRacer]

kevin ritson said:

stuttgartmetal said:

Schumi's an ex Mercedes protege.
Getting into the McLaren seat has still got to be on his radar.
There's a comment somewhere, Michael couldn't beat Lewis Hamilton.
How much is everyone up LH's backside?
Schumi would [will] knock him into a cocked hat.

I don't think he would. Why? Well:

Schumacher lost to Alonso in a straight fight in 2006 and Hamilton's performed to the same standard as Fernando in his first year
Hamilton is 22 years old, Schumacher 38. Experience counts for a lot but Hamilton has a season, and a title fight under intense pressure under his belt
Hamilton has the hunger, Michael has nothing to prove
Lewis has as much knowledge of the rule book and what is 'acceptable' as Michael does
The only question mark is setting up the car but Hamilton has enough talent as Schuey to overcome car problems

Succession. It's a tough thing, just ask Fernando Alonso.

Lewis is no MS chap LOL

[10 Pence Short]

npope said:

Schumacher would not have chocked over the last two races, with that many points lead LH chocked and that is why MS is far better driver than LH at the moment. Until LH wind 7 titles you can not compare the two.

At which point exactly did Lewis 'chock'[sic]?

When he raced with tyres, which he couldn't see, which were down to the canvas, because his team chose to take a gamble, or in Brazil, where his car failed him and he managed to go from plum last to 7th?

Or should we go further back, like when he 'chocked' in Japan, where that fine racer Alonso turned his car into a bath tub?

[npope]

10 Pence Short said:

npope said:

Schumacher would not have chocked over the last two races, with that many points lead LH chocked and that is why MS is far better driver than LH at the moment. Until LH wind 7 titles you can not compare the two.

At which point exactly did Lewis 'chock'[sic]?

When he raced with tyres, which he couldn't see, which were down to the canvas, because his team chose to take a gamble, or in Brazil, where his car failed him and he managed to go from plum last to 7th?

Or should we go further back, like when he 'chocked' in Japan, where that fine racer Alonso turned his car into a bath tub?

MS would not have lost such a points lead, I think half the problem why LH slowed down over the last few races was to many people are up his ars, no one is saying he is not a good driver but people make him out to be a walking racing GOD which he is not. Once he starts to beat all of MS records or AS then you can not claim he is so great.

[kevin ritson]

MS wouldn't have had the points lead. IIRC it took him a few races to score his first podium.

Still, keep biting down, fanboys

[npope]

kevin ritson said:

MS wouldn't have had the points lead. IIRC it took him a few races to score his first podium.

Still, keep biting down, fanboys

But MS did not have the best car in the field either, 50% of this years drivers in a Ferrari sorry McLaren would have got in the top three this year this was not true when MS started

[jamieboy]

10 Pence Short said:

npope said:

Schumacher would not have chocked over the last two races, with that many points lead LH chocked and that is why MS is far better driver than LH at the moment. Until LH wind 7 titles you can not compare the two.

At which point exactly did Lewis 'chock'[sic]?

When he raced with tyres, which he couldn't see, which were down to the canvas, because his team chose to take a gamble, or in Brazil, where his car failed him and he managed to go from plum last to 7th?

I'd imagine that a driver of his skill could feel how little grip he had, without having to 'see' his tyres. Having done a few laps with no grip, he could maybe have foreseen that the pit lane (having had much less traffic than the racetrack) would be even slippier than the track.

In Brazil the gearbox issue was unlucky, but for me the problem was before that - when he drove off the track trying to pass his team-mate, which he had no reason to do.

Edited by jamieboy on Thursday 15th November 14:12

[stuttgartmetal]

kevin ritson said:

MS wouldn't have had the points lead. IIRC it took him a few races to score his first podium.

Schumi virtually bullshitted his way into a Jordan drive, he hadn't been pointed at F1 ten years earlier, and was superquick from the off. I think he cooked his clutch first race.

Undoubtedly LH is a terrific driver, however hes not better than Schumi, not yet.
I still believe Michael has retired too early.
Niki did, and came back.
I think Schumi will too.

[BoRED S2upid]

Hes still the best. Allways has been allways will be.

[10 Pence Short]

jamieboy said:

10 Pence Short said:

npope said:

Schumacher would not have chocked over the last two races, with that many points lead LH chocked and that is why MS is far better driver than LH at the moment. Until LH wind 7 titles you can not compare the two.

At which point exactly did Lewis 'chock'[sic]?

When he raced with tyres, which he couldn't see, which were down to the canvas, because his team chose to take a gamble, or in Brazil, where his car failed him and he managed to go from plum last to 7th?

I'd imagine that a driver of his skill could feel how little grip he had, without having to 'see' his tyres. Having done a few laps with no grip, he could maybe have foreseen that the pit lane (having had much less traffic than the racetrack) would be even slippier than the track.

In Brazil the gearbox issue was unlucky, but for me the problem was before that - when he drove off the track trying to pass his team-mate, which he had no reason to do.

Edited by jamieboy on Thursday 15th November 14:12

You Ferrari fanboys don't half talk some bow locks.

You'd think Schumacher would have seen Coulthard at Spa, or managed to not crash on the final corner at Monaco. Or into Damon Hill in Adelaide. Or try to crash into Villeneuve in '97. Or be totally outclassed in the wet in Hungary.

You'd think during the warm up lap of the British grand prix in '99 he'd have at least realised his brakes were f*cked before driving head first into the tyre barriers. What a nonce!


We can all look back and talk rubbish, it's not just a preserve of Ferrari fans.

[jamieboy]

10 Pence Short said:

We can all ... talk rubbish

Evidently.

[uktrailmonster]

I'm certainly not an MS fanboy. I don't do driver loving. But I can easily accept the obvious evidence that he was (is) one of the very best F1 drivers of all time. LH has the makings of a great champion too, but he's got a LONNNNNNNNNNNNNG way to go before you start comparing him with the very best. I can't see it happening, but it would be great entertainment if MS did make a final comeback.