Hamilton awarded title?

[RobbieMeister]

Muntu said:

RobbieMeister said:

Has anyone seen or heard anything about the post on the BBC forum that started this thread?

Is this it ?

http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:dJQw2R8MYQMJ:ww...

It would seem so, but I never saw the original. But thanks very much.

I would have thought it was a wind up but the fact that the BBC have pulled it makes me wonder.

[flemke]

stephen300o said:

Kimi won two more races than anyone so he is more deserving anyway.

It is a bit easier to win a race when your teammate is not allowed to finish ahead of you and, indeed, has been given a strategy the whole purpose of which is to hold back your competitors in order to benefit yourself.
It is absolutely true that, as many have said, Kimi "deserved" to win the WDC this year. The thing is, Alonso and Hamilton equally deserved to win it.

[stephen300o]

flemke said:

stephen300o said:

Kimi won two more races than anyone so he is more deserving anyway.

It is a bit easier to win a race when your teammate is not allowed to finish ahead of you and, indeed, has been given a strategy the whole purpose of which is to hold back your competitors in order to benefit yourself.
It is absolutely true that, as many have said, Kimi "deserved" to win the WDC this year. The thing is, Alonso and Hamilton equally deserved to win it.

Seem to remember Hamilton getting in a strop not being able to "race" his team mate at Monaco, but I guess Mclaren team orders are "different".

[flemke]

stephen300o said:

flemke said:

stephen300o said:

Kimi won two more races than anyone so he is more deserving anyway.

It is a bit easier to win a race when your teammate is not allowed to finish ahead of you and, indeed, has been given a strategy the whole purpose of which is to hold back your competitors in order to benefit yourself.
It is absolutely true that, as many have said, Kimi "deserved" to win the WDC this year. The thing is, Alonso and Hamilton equally deserved to win it.

Seem to remember Hamilton getting in a strop not being able to "race" his team mate at Monaco, but I guess Mclaren team orders are "different".

Stephen,

I'm not going to lob any pejoratives at you regarding racing knowledge, etc.
If you are not aware of the circumstances of that race, then you might want to check them out.
Irrespective of that particular, unique race, there is a huge difference between:
- before a race weekend has even begun, designating a number one, and a number two who is required to serve number one, and
- letting the two drivers compete on equal terms until there is nothing that can be intelligently fought for.
Anyhow, the point was not whether Ferrari's preferred driver policy was better or worse than McLaren's equality policy. Rather, the point was that you cannot put as much weight on the value of number of wins when the driver in question is being supported by his number two, but the competing drivers who had fewer wins did not have that advantage.

Cheers.

[woof]

stephen300o said:

flemke said:

stephen300o said:

Kimi won two more races than anyone so he is more deserving anyway.

It is a bit easier to win a race when your teammate is not allowed to finish ahead of you and, indeed, has been given a strategy the whole purpose of which is to hold back your competitors in order to benefit yourself.
It is absolutely true that, as many have said, Kimi "deserved" to win the WDC this year. The thing is, Alonso and Hamilton equally deserved to win it.

Seem to remember Hamilton getting in a strop not being able to "race" his team mate at Monaco, but I guess Mclaren team orders are "different".

Nonsense - i was with Lewis that evening and he didn't mention it nor did he have a strop
Being in the car racing and wanted to have the opportunity to overtake Alonso - well sure I can believe he would of been pissed off at that moment when he was asked to hold station. But Monaco is unique situation and let's face it overtaking there is virtually impossible anyway and risking a 1-2 finish would be insanity for the team

Thankfully Lewis still has the racing spirit and wants to race to the flag - we all know that after a few years in F1, alot of drivers just turn up to the grid, run around for 60 laps and collect there pay cheque and jump back on the Lear to Monaco.

[stephen300o]

Felipe had every chance that Kimi had, upto him not being in the title picture, unless you believe Ferrari intentionally hampered him(daft).
Kimi won six times Hamilton and Alonso won eight between them, I believe Mr Ron Dennis said "second place is the first loser"

[woof]

stephen300o said:

Felipe had every chance that Kimi had, upto him not being in the title picture, unless you believe Ferrari intentionally hampered him(daft).
Kimi won six times Hamilton and Alonso won eight between them, I believe Mr Ron Dennis said "second place is the first loser"

Think that's a quote from No Fear

Stephen - to be far to Ferrari and their fans - Ferrari did let there drivers race this year - but that's the first year it's happened in 10 years

Mclaren and most of the other teams don't impose team orders on their drivers - and the sport (?) is far better for it this year
Having 4 drivers fighting for the championship was great
Schuey being pushed out was the best thing that could of happened to F1