Mosley: McLaren didn't bring F1 into disrepute

Mosley: McLaren didn't bring F1 into disrepute

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jacobyte

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Thursday 6th December 2007
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From here:

www.planet-f1.com/story/0,18954,3213_2948592,00.ht...

Planet F1 said:
"I don't think it [Spygate] has done any damage," Mosley told The Times. "In fact, it has raised the public awareness. That is the paradox. What is important is that people believe the spying has stopped and will continue to be stopped
So, he now admits that McLaren did not bring the sport into disrepute. Is he going to give them their $100m back?

Is he f**k.

That aside, spying should be dealt with in proper courts. How much more stupid is he trying to make himself look?

kevin ritson

3,423 posts

228 months

Thursday 6th December 2007
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More manoevering to justify Renault being let off later today then.

Beep beep, Max backing up

Edited by kevin ritson on Thursday 6th December 11:28

Marki

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271 months

Thursday 6th December 2007
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Mosley is just a crazy old and must go

jamieboy

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Thursday 6th December 2007
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jacobyte said:
So, he now admits that McLaren did not bring the sport into disrepute.
I didn't read that into it at all. As I read it, he's saying the spygate affair as a whole - i.e. McLaren's transgression and their subsequent punishment - didn't damage the sport.

jacobyte

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Thursday 6th December 2007
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If it didn't damage the sport, then there is no case to answer. That is ultimately what they were punished for.

jamieboy

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Thursday 6th December 2007
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jacobyte said:
If it didn't damage the sport, then there is no case to answer. That is ultimately what they were punished for.
There's a distinction, though. The argument is that McLaren's actions brought the sport into disrepute but the spygate affair as a whole did not - it showed that if a team steps out of line, they get punished.

flemke

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Thursday 6th December 2007
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jamieboy said:
jacobyte said:
If it didn't damage the sport, then there is no case to answer. That is ultimately what they were punished for.
There's a distinction, though. The argument is that McLaren's actions brought the sport into disrepute but the spygate affair as a whole did not - it showed that if a team steps out of line, they get punished.
Thank goodness that we have the FIA always on guard to step in and cleanse the sport whenever an irresponsible team defiles it.

Hail to Max The Redeemer.

jacobyte

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Thursday 6th December 2007
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If he meant specifically that the punishment wasn't bad for F1, then he would have said it.

I see the angle you're approaching it from, but that seems an illogical interpretation. But then again, this is Mad Max we're dealing with.


jamieboy

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Thursday 6th December 2007
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jacobyte said:
If he meant specifically that the punishment wasn't bad for F1, then he would have said it.

I see the angle you're approaching it from, but that seems an illogical interpretation. But then again, this is Mad Max we're dealing with.
The angle I'm coming from is that when he says:

Mosley said:
I don't think it {Spygate} has done any damage ... What is important is that people believe the spying has stopped and will continue to be stopped
...I don't think it's logical to assume he really meant to say "McLaren didn't do anything wrong".

It's down to interpretation, I guess. It seems to me pretty plain that he is referring to the whole affair but because he doesn't just mention the punishment, you're entitled to assume he just meant the crime.

edit to fix square brackets in quotes

Edited by jamieboy on Thursday 6th December 12:10

kevin ritson

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Thursday 6th December 2007
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He's living in Maxland, isn't he? Most people have the impression that Spygate went on far too long and detracted from the championship, in fact tainted it. McLaren, on the other hand, attracted a great deal of sympathy, the impression being that they were victimised.

flemke

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Thursday 6th December 2007
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kevin ritson said:
McLaren, on the other hand, attracted a great deal of sympathy, the impression being that they were victimised.
Most serious people who follow the sport understand that.
Unfortunately, it seems that millions of those who get excited by the glitzy bullshit and watch the occasional race for a few minutes are still labouring under the illusion that McLaren "cheated" and however McLaren were punished they must have deserved, because the world "governing body" said so.
These would be the same folks who presume that the likes of FIFA and IOC are pure and only act "in the best interests of the sport".

Marki

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Thursday 6th December 2007
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flemke said:
These would be the same folks who presume that the likes of FIFA and IOC are pure and only act "in the best interests of the sport".
yikes You mean they don`t hehe

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Thursday 6th December 2007
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As an aside, as an Art Director gotta say that pic of Mosley on Planet is f'ing horrible. Someone really really doesnt like him, either that or there are some crap snappers out there getting work. By contrast there are some fantasticly talented photographers here on PH. Give any of them a ring for god sake Max!
arhhhh the horror... the horror....

kevin ritson

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228 months

Thursday 6th December 2007
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No, he really is that terrible