Blood types on overalls or helmets

Blood types on overalls or helmets

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mickholly

34 posts

207 months

Sunday 6th January 2008
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ABO incompatability describes an immune reaction that occurs in the body if two blood samples of different, incompatible ABO types are mixed together. This is normaly at birth as you say you are A+ your mother would be either AB- AB+ B- or B+ the type B (BB or BO molecules), in your mother blood crossing to your blood at the birth caused the problem

Because type O signifies a lack of any surface molecules, type O blood does not cause an immune response. This is why type O blood cells can be given to patients of any blood type, and people with type O- blood are called "univeral donors." However, people with type O- can only receive type O-





jimmystratos

2,129 posts

233 months

Sunday 6th January 2008
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fergus said:
Jimmy S, I have ABO incompatability, so have this on the side of my lid, along with my blood group (A+). To the best of my knowledge, I can't have O neg in the event of a trauma type accident? Is this likely to be true?
There are many other substances that cause incompatibility other than the ABO and rhesus(+-) antigens. That is why doctors cannot give blood without cross-matching even if they were sure of the ABO and rhesus type. In an extreme "death-imminent" scenario, O negative is used, where the risk of incompatibility from using un-crossmatched blood is considered less than the risks of not giving blood.

I suggest that you should have the known details of your incompatibility problem on a Medicalert bracelet that you wear permanently. Even car racers are much more likely to suffer an accident away from the circuit when you won't have your helmet with you!
As an A+ person, you would normally be able to receive A+, A-, O+ and O- blood; the many other antibody types are what will determine what is incompatible for your case.

The usuful information for a dog tag are name, date of birth, any significant medical conditions, in Scotland we have a national unique NHS number - I don't know if other UK countries have a similar system, England probably does now they're rolling out the electronic patient record.

HTH,

Chris

custardtart

1,726 posts

254 months

Monday 7th January 2008
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jimmystratos said:
custardtart said:
jimmystratos said:
Completely pointless.
Only reason I can think of is to try and look macho by reminding people of the danger element.
suggest you think again thensmile

Edited by custardtart on Saturday 5th January 18:14
No. I am a specialist in Intensive Care and trauma management, and as someone else has said nobody ever gets blood other than Universal Donor O negative without having laboratory cross matching of their blood done. Never. Having your blood group on your car/overalls/helmet/tattoo is pointless. No medical service will pay it the slightest attention.
It's great to hear you guys make sure - In which case it may well be not needed but your statement about it being macho etc is complete Boll*xs so I still suggest you think again wink

Le TVR

3,092 posts

252 months

Monday 7th January 2008
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Chipchap said:
SamHH said:
Chipchap said:
Currently bike racers need "dog tags" with blood type on them, along with name date of birth etc.

Cheers

CC
Is this mandated by the FIM?
It was an ACU requirement when I last rode, a couple of years ago.

CC
It was an ACU requirement 30 years ago and even then the medics said that it was pointless. They would disregard it and do their own test.

sa_20v

4,108 posts

232 months

Monday 7th January 2008
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I not sure Ferrari would be too happy advertising Vodka on the side of Kimi's helmet...

In all seriousness though, F1 safety (car and track) and has improved to the point where such things are unnecessary; largely thanks to the work of Sid Watkins. Drivers are now more likely to break bones/sprain limbs etc than suffer massive blood loss.

Porlock

386 posts

214 months

Monday 7th January 2008
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I know when I was Co-Driving at International level in the 80's we had to have our blood group on the car and I think on the sheet that went with our pictures in the car window. I believe it was a FIA requirement on international events.

fergus

6,430 posts

276 months

Monday 7th January 2008
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jimmystratos said:
...some useful stuff....
Chris,

Thanks for the detailed reply thumbup

Fergus

custardtart

1,726 posts

254 months

Tuesday 8th January 2008
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fergus said:
jimmystratos said:
...some useful stuff....
Chris,

Thanks for the detailed reply thumbup

Fergus
Don't forget he said some boll*xs too thumbup

jimmystratos

2,129 posts

233 months

Tuesday 8th January 2008
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custardtart said:
Don't forget he said some boll*xs too thumbup
Alright, alright! It was the nearest I could think of to a reason for putting them on. The fact it is such bollox shows just how pointless it is! smile