gutting the car

[trackcar]

Ok .. well i've got to take some stuff out of the S .. i'm in the boot : do i have to remove all the carpetting? I'm figuring that yes it's flammable but it's also my road car and also fibreglass is about as flammable as it gets so do i have to remove all the trim? If i have to i have to but i'd rather leave in as much road car trim as possible .. advice please

[itsallyellow]

Dont believe you "have" to remove any of the trim?? Although i could be wrong!! Infact i probably am!

Mike


Not much help am i...

[Daftlad]

Joolz
I understand Andy Race ran with the trim in his Griff last year.

The only reason to remove, as I understand would be for weight saving.

[Chassis 33]

No you don't have to remove trim, but do be careful to seal the bulkheads, I don't know S's that well but on the Chimmy, the boot vents that are often converted to speaker holes must be filled. Likewise if there is an internal petrol filler it must have a dog bowl type spill tray that drains externally.

Regards
Iain

[TVRleigh_BBWR]

I do remember reading in the blue book about having to remove all trim, but that may have been for a different class.

I don't think you can run will foot well carpet incase it slips and gets stuck.

You may want to change the carpets etc so they fix down with stud fixers, so you can remove and re-fity at will.

[trackcar]

Hi all, thanks for the answers .. im not sure if trim needs to be removed even from inside the car .. reading the rules on rollcages the blue book says here that trim can be reshaped to allow fitment of the cage, it doesn't specifically mention removing from inside the cabin, I can't fnd anything at the moment about in the boot space but I'm figuring if the blue book doesnt specifically mentions reshaping of trim in the cabin then trim in the boot would be ok too. Will read further and see if anything else comes to light.

Edited by trackcar on Tuesday 15th January 11:41

[Chassis 33]

The removal of trim for the cage is dispensation for "road cars" where rules say the cars must be as the car left the factory in terms of trim, electric windows etc

Regards
Iain

[trackcar]

So does all interior trim (except dash) have to come out then? I seem to remember there was once a race series where the interior trim was specifically mentioned that it had to stay in the car, but this may have been changed by now, but the blue book isnt clear in this area from what i can gather so far .. it's no hardship removing the trim of course, but the weight saving is minimal on my car and i can't see the trim being any more flammable than the fibreglass ..

[teamHOLDENracing]

You can leave the trim in place.

[trackcar]

cool! thanks

[Graham]

The blue book is its usual difficult to understand self... If you read one bit it seems to suggest you have to take it out, but then goes on to say you can leave it in...


The correct interpretation, is we'd prefer you to take it out but you dont have to...

In fact some classes specify it must stay


so yes you can leave in as much as you like

G

[trackcar]

Hi yup I've taken out stuff that's not seen and also stuff that makes fittings easier, so under the seats is carpetless cos i have to fit my metal bracing bars for the seat and weld them to the chassis. I'm leaving as much carpet around the parcel shelf/bulkhead to tidy up where the rollcage tube holes will be cut, but taking all the carpet out of the footwells .. last thing you want is a roll of carpet jamming your throttle open So really if it's safety-critical it's coming out and if it's safe to leave it in it's staying, seems fair to me

[GeorgeC]

This thread has reminded me just how much fun I had removing the trim and glue from the S3rbera.
Did save some weight though.

George

[Guillotine]

Just for clarity, under MSA we are "Road cars" and "Sportscars" so we don't Have to remove trim.

I removed my carpets and sound deadening stuff for FIRE. I didn't fancy all that rubish around me when racing.

I kept alot of the trim as I still use the car on the road, and I still wanted it to look like a Griff inside.

as Iain says, the bulkheads MUST be water/fuel/fire tight. On my first scrute, they shone a torch in the back and looked for light. so if the dash is in, this can be difficult. But worthwhile.

have fun

soon be racing!

[Chassis 33]

Guillotine said:

as Iain says, the bulkheads MUST be water/fuel/fire tight. On my first scrute, they shone a torch in the back and looked for light. so if the dash is in, this can be difficult. But worthwhile.

And don't forget the voids over the wheel arches. I filled them with expanding foam, although I can't remember anyone ever checking, it took until Pembrey (fourth meeting of the 2006 calender) for anyone to open the boot and note the lack of dog bowl.

Regards
Iain

[trackcar]

The good thing about the S tank is that it's outside the car completely, ie is separated from the boot by fibreglass and then there's the fibreglass bulkhead into the cabin. My cabin bulkhead has holes where the speakers used to be so I'm going to metal-panel that anyway even though there's nothing fluid-like in the boot .. I think the scrutes will probably expect to see that bulkhead panelled so I'll do it so as not to give them anything to complain about