Obscure race and rally cars

Obscure race and rally cars

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dougc

8,240 posts

266 months

Monday 9th February 2009
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nc107 said:
Epic racing line fail.

MHM

103 posts

188 months

Monday 9th February 2009
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busa turbo

228 posts

202 months

Monday 9th February 2009
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one of my favorites

chevronb37

6,471 posts

187 months

Monday 9th February 2009
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Ok, so none of these are race cars, but still special.

Renault Espace, but basically a Williams FW15C underneath



BMW X5 LM concept. Jorg Muller ran this at the Goodwood FoS a few years ago and it was frighteningly fast. Powered by the same engine as the McLaren F1 and BMW V12 LMR. I'm sure Flemke can add some fles to the bones of this one.



Ford Transit Supervan. Based on GT40 running gear



Ford Transit Supervan 2. Based on C100 running gear



Ford Transit Supervan 3. Powered by HB F1 engine.



Lamborghini Muira Jota. Test plot Bob Wallace's obsession in hs spare time. He changed pretty much everything, including the orientation of the engine. It was destroyed by a rich and careless owner in a road accident IIRC. Might have allowed Lambo to go racing.


Nic Jones

7,058 posts

221 months

Monday 9th February 2009
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Thinking of Transits, did you see the standard looking van that was the test mule for the XJ220 running gear? I saw it at the FOS and it even had the compulsory, Sun, Mars Bar and bottle of Coke on the dashboard!

Stack

795 posts

188 months

Monday 9th February 2009
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Here are some rarities WM-Peugeot designed to go 400 kmh down the Mulsanne



DAMS F1 car



Unraced Ligier -Alfa Romeo from pre 87



Unraced Minardi -Subaru


FourWheelDrift

88,551 posts

285 months

Monday 9th February 2009
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Talking of Ice racers earlier I remember these little beasts dominating the 1994 Andros Trophy and Chamonix 24hrs.

The Aixam Mega, can't find many photos of them though.




anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 9th February 2009
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chevronb37 said:
BRM P351. Developed at the end of Group C. It failed to qualify for Le Mans in Wayne Taylor's hands, was powered by a development of the Weslake V12 which Dan Gurney used in 1966 and 1967!
Dan's GT40 was a V8, not a V12. wink

snowen250

1,090 posts

184 months

Monday 9th February 2009
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How about a racing BX?

Club motorsport has various er odd stuff in it!
I also remember reading about a Westfield entered into the British GT championship some years ago, anyone able to shed some light?
Simon

deviant

4,316 posts

211 months

Monday 9th February 2009
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chevronb37 said:
Alfa Romeo 164 Procar. Bernie's silhouette series running to 3.5L atmo regs. like Group C. Developed to showcase the idea by Brabham (and some say ruined the team in the process!) and apparently on F1 car pace during testing. No idea where it is now!

I think there is a video of this on Youtube. Its only a few seconds long though.

Stack said:
Unraced Minardi -Subaru

I never knew Subaru had a crack at anything to do with F1...does anyone have any more history on this?

I love seeing these obscure cars!!

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 10th February 2009
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The story is all here http://www.iwoc.co.uk/subf1.html

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 10th February 2009
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I must be getting old, i remember most of these obscure cars when they were new ideas with the fanfare that comes with their releases. eek

flemke

22,865 posts

238 months

Tuesday 10th February 2009
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chevronb37 said:
BMW X5 LM concept. Jorg Muller ran this at the Goodwood FoS a few years ago and it was frighteningly fast. Powered by the same engine as the McLaren F1 and BMW V12 LMR. I'm sure Flemke can add some fles to the bones of this one.

The boys at BMW Motorsports had an extra engine for an F1LM lying around, so they decided to fit it into an X5 for fun. Beefed up the suspension, etc.

http://www.99clips.net/en/musicvideo.php?vid=66a68...

Ahonen

5,017 posts

280 months

Tuesday 10th February 2009
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MHM said:
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I was there when this raced. Spa 24 hours in the early '90s. Looked amusing, but was a 405 or 406 Super Tourer underneath and actually pretty quick.

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2,729 posts

237 months

Tuesday 10th February 2009
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chevronb37

6,471 posts

187 months

Tuesday 10th February 2009
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johnfelstead said:
chevronb37 said:
BRM P351. Developed at the end of Group C. It failed to qualify for Le Mans in Wayne Taylor's hands, was powered by a development of the Weslake V12 which Dan Gurney used in 1966 and 1967!
Dan's GT40 was a V8, not a V12. wink
This was the V12 from the Eagle Weslake Grand Prix car, not the GT40 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eagle_Mk1

chevronb37

6,471 posts

187 months

Tuesday 10th February 2009
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Nic Jones said:
Thinking of Transits, did you see the standard looking van that was the test mule for the XJ220 running gear? I saw it at the FOS and it even had the compulsory, Sun, Mars Bar and bottle of Coke on the dashboard!
Yeah I did see that. Don Law bought it up along with all sorts of other bits from Jaguar for the XJ220 I believe and his son Justin demonstrated it with his usual "verve". Amazing!

shirt

22,609 posts

202 months

Tuesday 10th February 2009
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chevronb37 said:

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WANT!


i also remember the aixam ice racer. the aixam website alludes to the fact they still manufacture them, which would be slightly more interesting than the plastic deathboxes they're more well known for!

deviant

4,316 posts

211 months

Tuesday 10th February 2009
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shirt said:
chevronb37 said:

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WANT!


i also remember the aixam ice racer. the aixam website alludes to the fact they still manufacture them, which would be slightly more interesting than the plastic deathboxes they're more well known for!
Alfa Procar in action:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p36U-ReVQO4&fea...