RE: Future Of Belgian GP In Doubt

RE: Future Of Belgian GP In Doubt

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MonkeyHanger

9,198 posts

243 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2009
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ApexJimi said:
This could set a very dangerous precedent.
The precedent is already set here. The Croft ruling did it earlier this year.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2009
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ApexJimi said:
This makes me absolutely livid rage

The existence of the circuit pre-dated the complainant's term of residence. How can the complaint possibly be upheld? and not only upheld but measures as drastic as complete closure?

This could set a very dangerous precedent.
have you been to brands gp, donny (yeah the one next to east midlands airport), combe, bedford even bruntingthorpe (ex bomber runway) recently? there is no precedent to be set. european court of 'human rights' says these f vcking t wats are 'entitled' to peace and quiet, regardless of when they moved in...

if i owned any of these places i'd, begrudgingly, shut them down and turn them into a 'travellers' caravan site for a year or two. oh and a massive music festival site. igive the f vckers 6 months till they are begging for motorsport back.


Edited by fbrs on Wednesday 23 September 18:06

ukaskew

10,642 posts

222 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2009
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The irony of the Castle Combe example posted by Tony is that 4 local residents opposed a race meet, not a track or corporate day, as a result F3/GT was lost along with hundreds of thousands of pounds coming directly into our local economy.

It's a sad state of affairs, the law is firmly on the side of local residents, even if they only moved in 5 minutes ago next to a circuit that has been in use for 50 years and was an airfield prior to that. Presumably these residents would prefer the land to be sold and 5000 homes turning up in their village.

Alicatt1

805 posts

196 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2009
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Ahonen said:
Racing in the BTCS, Belcar, LMS, CER and GT Open means I'm there quite a bit (I think last weekend was my 10th trip there this year alone), so the mere thought of the place being shut down is something I can't really comprehend.

Common sense will, I'm sure, prevail. We have worse problems in Zolder with whinging locals, but a decent compromise has been reached.
We have a house in Zonhoven not too far from Zolder and it is the bikes you can hear more so than the cars, also have a house in Eksel, now that is noisey, KB airbase is just a few km away, and, well it has been the NATO Tiger Meet these past few weeks and it seems like every country's airforce is here above my house, far louder than Zolder or Spa.
Think I'll try and go there this weekend with the lad.

john_r

8,353 posts

272 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2009
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shout Calling PH Management - time to make this place, the brand and all the supporters stand up for something... Organise a mass protest day/weekend trip to Spa and the surrounding area.

Make the call, and they will come in their thousands!

ApexJimi

25,001 posts

244 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2009
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Just read about the croft injunction there.

I completely fail to understand the legal mechanics behind this, it makes no sense whatsoever to me. I'm fairly sure if I moved into the vicinity of an airport, I couldn't complain about noise - so why are they allowed to do it with racetracks that pre-date their residency?

MonkeyHanger

9,198 posts

243 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2009
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ApexJimi said:
Just read about the croft injunction there.

I completely fail to understand the legal mechanics behind this, it makes no sense whatsoever to me. I'm fairly sure if I moved into the vicinity of an airport, I couldn't complain about noise - so why are they allowed to do it with racetracks that pre-date their residency?
There's a lot more background to the Croft case than just a moaning neighbour..

Alicatt1

805 posts

196 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2009
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A scorned ex wife etc. etc. ISTR.

Godzilla

2,033 posts

250 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2009
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bosscerbera said:
I've just heard that the circuit has got permission to run this weekend's Six Hour event.

The transporters already there should be let in shortly. I'll be heading off in a few hours time to compete over the weekend.
Thank fk for that!

Hopefully the residents have realised thier precious houses will plummet in value if the area became a ghost town post-circuit shutdown...

Agent Orange

2,194 posts

247 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2009
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fbrs said:
have you been to brands gp, donny (yeah the one next to east midlands airport), combe, bedford even bruntingthorpe (ex bomber runway) recently? there is no precedent to be set. european court of 'human rights' says these f vcking t wats are 'entitled' to peace and quiet, regardless of when they moved in
Not just motorsport either. My football team wanted to move out of the city into a new big stadium years back. A site was found next to the Waterloo mainline railway, the areas busiest motorway and the regions largest airport.

Local residents oppossed the stadium due to noise and won.

wanacoop

1,249 posts

223 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2009
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what a fecking joke, the world has gone mad. I live near a school, should they close that!

xjr88

29 posts

187 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2009
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What a bunch of crap. Really pisses me off that residents complain about noise from a circuit that's been there years. I bet the complainants have lived there two bloody minutes.

touching cloth

11,706 posts

240 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2009
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bosscerbera said:
I've just heard that the circuit has got permission to run this weekend's Six Hour event.

The transporters already there should be let in shortly. I'll be heading off in a few hours time to compete over the weekend.
And breathe hehe
Best of luck Philip, keep us updated thumbup




Oh and ask em if they are going to be bloody well open on the 5th for our impending trackday

djaj1503

6 posts

192 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2009
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Bet they wouldn’t complain if it was a football stadium!

NWVT

2,630 posts

185 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2009
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john_r said:
shout Calling PH Management - time to make this place, the brand and all the supporters stand up for something... Organise a mass protest day/weekend trip to Spa and the surrounding area.

Make the call, and they will come in their thousands!
I tottaly agree john smile we need to get this sorted ph members of the world unite smile lets keep spa open so that further generations can enjoy this marvellous track

RobPhoboS

3,454 posts

227 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2009
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NWVT said:
john_r said:
shout Calling PH Management - time to make this place, the brand and all the supporters stand up for something... Organise a mass protest day/weekend trip to Spa and the surrounding area.

Make the call, and they will come in their thousands!
I tottaly agree john smile we need to get this sorted ph members of the world unite smile lets keep spa open so that further generations can enjoy this marvellous track
Another agreement here.
Mass protest with noise !
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Steve_T

6,356 posts

273 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2009
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touching cloth said:
bosscerbera said:
I've just heard that the circuit has got permission to run this weekend's Six Hour event.

The transporters already there should be let in shortly. I'll be heading off in a few hours time to compete over the weekend.
And breathe hehe
Best of luck Philip, keep us updated thumbup




Oh and ask em if they are going to be bloody well open on the 5th for our impending trackday
See the Spa thread in the events & meetings section.

Cross posting a bit but have Just received a text from my friend at circuit and he reports a compromise has been reached for the weekend of the 6 hours. He now has a (pit) garage key and is just about to go in. It appears that the compromise also affects the historic F1 meeting from my limited understanding of the the article posted on the other thread.

VX Foxy

3,962 posts

244 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2009
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What is the argument against having quieter cars/bikes?

Wayney

626 posts

207 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2009
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The only logical reason any one would want to go to Belgium is because of SPA! Now I guess there's no logical reason to go, unless u want to go the Bruge & eat chocolate & look at Lace!!

996TT_STEVO

4,078 posts

229 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2009
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I am heartbroken... can't believe this right now!