RE: Billions for new roads. Maybe

[RabRS]

He's lying, that's what he does. The mong..

[ArmaghMan]

GTR Cook said:

ArmaghMan said:

Dear Sir,
Welcome to your new home. We would be grateful if you could buy lots of bottled water, and a garage full of batteries.
We will endeavour to supply you with water and electricity in a few years once the road has degenerated.
In the meantime you and the rest of your tax paying, rate paying neighbours can use your gardens as temporary lavatories.
Best regards
Selfish motorist

Would it be so hard to inform the utility company's of the road works and if they are planning any upgrades or work on the existing network including possible extensions they should do it before a nice new road surface is put down.

Surely Building companies have to file for permission for new builds, I believe the council deal with this as well as the road works. Surely some planning and foresight could be employed. And at worse, they should be billed to relay enough of the road so it lasts.

Hardly requires neighbours deficating in each others garden!

I guess your happy wasting tax payers money!

Here in NI the gap between applying for planning and getting it can be measured in years or even decades in some cases.

[twoblacklines]

Nice to see Cornwall get missed out as usual even though it really needs it - 2 main roads in and out of Cornwall, due to idiot planning both of them merge into single lanes (each way) atleast 3-4 times...so glad I am moving from this dump eventually.

[FastRich]

twoblacklines said:

Nice to see Cornwall get missed out as usual even though it really needs it - 2 main roads in and out of Cornwall, due to idiot planning both of them merge into single lanes (each way) atleast 3-4 times...so glad I am moving from this dump eventually.

Hardly surprising after this news report, where "Cornwall" (not everyone I'm sure) hints around the edges of their desire for Cornish Independance!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-29897828

"Fk 'em!" would be my reaction too. Although I'm sure that helps drive the wedge....

[Clivey]

daytona365 said:

Much the same as with houses, we don't need more roads, just less people and cars. But that pillock has known this, as we all have for at least from say, oh 1997.

So how do we go about reducing the population without invoking Godwin's law?

[Mr Whippy]

Clivey said:

daytona365 said:

Much the same as with houses, we don't need more roads, just less people and cars. But that pillock has known this, as we all have for at least from say, oh 1997.

So how do we go about reducing the population without invoking Godwin's law?

Plenty can go off to fight in a new war against the East in a bit.

Ebola might do another decent job if it gets out of hand.

[sjw]

It wont happen

TOO SMALLER ISLAND, TOO MANY PEOPLE ON IT

And if any of it does happen (Tory - Possibly, Labour - No chance) it wont be in the North

[fatboy18]

They need the money now to fill up the bloody great hole that appeared on the M25 this morning between Jcton 10 and 9

[twoblacklines]

FastRich said:

Hardly surprising after this news report, where "Cornwall" (not everyone I'm sure) hints around the edges of their desire for Cornish Independance!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-29897828

"Fk 'em!" would be my reaction too. Although I'm sure that helps drive the wedge....

They won't want independence when it comes to the benefit system.

There is a group called Kerneyuek or something on FB where loads of Cornish people talk about what they want, and it is basically this:

1. More benefits, and higher tax for rich people.

2. They want all rich people who have second homes in Cornwall to give up their houses (for free) so that the and I quote "poor unemployed people can live there".

Yeah, poor unemployed people are going to live in 15 bedroom mansions? How will they afford the upkeep?

[robinessex]

Sheepshanks said:

Uncle John said:

The M25 needs another one building outside of it, and all trunks off of it are just overloaded as any accident or incident results in 10 mile queues!! Not going to happen though unfortunately.....

I thought it was originally intended there would be another ring road inside the M25 - so the outside M25 is the one that's already there?

The M25 is the outer of 3 planned ring roads in/around London. The 2 inner ones never got built, although a few sections were done.

http://pberry.me.uk/ukroads/ring_roads/london.html

The M25 actually took 25 years to come to fruition, and that is WITH an incentive to build it. We need a M50 about 10 miles outside the M25

[robinessex]

If you know the stopping distance of a train, because that's the important factor (you can't run into the arse of the train in front if it stop for any reason), it's quite easy to work out that the optimum train speed for maximum passenger density from Birmingham to London. It's 40mph !!! Opps

[Red Devil]

GTR Cook said:

Andy20vt said:

Why not fix up the roads we already so that they're fit for purpose first? The first thing you notice about driving in mainland Europe is that the condition of the roads over there is far, far better. Even Spain has roads in better condition, and blaming it on harsh winters just doesn't cut it I'm afraid since having just returned from driving in Norway & Sweden and roads there are in fantastic condition.

Utility companies if they dig up the road should be made to repair things properly (i.e. by resurfacing the whole road). Residents in our area had been lobbying the council for ages to get a busy but terribly potholed road resurface properly (rather than the usual shove a bit of bitumen down in the holes, and return again to do the same in 6 months because its now even worse than it was before). Finally last year the road was fully resurfaced, lovely, smooth etc. Wonderful.

6 weeks later (yes 6 weeks!), the water company came and dug a sodding great trench down the new road to supply a new development. Poorly patched repair and now less than 12 months after it was fully resurfaced the road is uneven, lumpy and starting to break up again. We've all paid for that. Absolutely boils my p**s! Cretins!

Agree with this. Utility companies should get one chance to lay anything under the road before it gets resurfaced. Once its been resurfaced, thats it, no digging.

On the subject of utility companies digging up roads, don't always blame the local Council or the Highway Authority.

Statutory undertakers
Most utility companies are statutory undertakers. Statutory undertakers have a statutory right or duty to install, inspect, maintain, repair, or replace apparatus in or under the street in primary legislation.

This legislation is:

Gas Act 1986 as amended by the Gas Act 1995 (schedule 3)
Electricity Act 1989 (schedule 4)
Water Resources Act 1991 (section 159)
Telecommunications Act 1984 as amended by schedule 3 of the Communications Act 2003

The NRSWA (New Roads and Street Works Act 1991) puts a duty on the relevant Authority to co-ordinate works. The example given above does suggest a marked failure to do so. In general though, given the number of different providers the process is like trying to herd cats. In many cases, although they are supposed to do so, the utilities fail to talk to each other thereby making the relevant Authority's job far harder than it need be.

[FastRich]

twoblacklines said:

FastRich said:

Hardly surprising after this news report, where "Cornwall" (not everyone I'm sure) hints around the edges of their desire for Cornish Independance!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-29897828

"Fk 'em!" would be my reaction too. Although I'm sure that helps drive the wedge....

They won't want independence when it comes to the benefit system.

There is a group called Kerneyuek or something on FB where loads of Cornish people talk about what they want, and it is basically this:

1. More benefits, and higher tax for rich people.

2. They want all rich people who have second homes in Cornwall to give up their houses (for free) so that the and I quote "poor unemployed people can live there".

Yeah, poor unemployed people are going to live in 15 bedroom mansions? How will they afford the upkeep?

The tax payer will pay of course, that's how it works. We all work hard to earn a decent living so we can afford a decent lifestyle and then get heavily taxed so scrotes can do nothing all day except watch their friends/family on Jeremy Kyle on their brand new massive tv's in their council houses and drive about in their uninsured cars, damaging the roads and clogging them up.

And the harder we work, the more we're taxed, isn't it brilliant?

In any case, it'll never happen. Mr Pickles will never be able to afford the rise in Pasty export tax...