European trip, am I missing anything?
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Thank you all for your suggestions, and apologies for replying so late (I'd forgotten I'd started it 
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I can't believe I hadn't even considered the passes being open, I had wrongly assumed in May that we would be good to go. Thank you all for informing me! So the trip has now been postponed until early July to try miss the summer holiday rush (unless I'm missing something else here
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The route has been cut to remove Italy. We still drive across it, but straight from Col d'Turini to San Bernadino pass now, so we have found some extra time (I really wasn't mega fussed about Italy anyway, I was only there recently).
I've also taken everyone's advice on the driving hours per day. The route is now down to 2500 miles with the exclusion of Italy, but I've made sure that we don't drive for much more than 6 hours each day (apart from the first and last days when we need to cannonball across the autoroutes). I know Google Maps won't be hugely accurate, but it's a reasonable reference point.
Thank you also for the suggestion of the Porsche museum, we will add that to the list
And because I'm hopelessly impatient and want to go on a roadtrip now, I'm off to the Nurburgring in early May (It is open this time, unlike my last visit after a Spa trackday!)
)I can't believe I hadn't even considered the passes being open, I had wrongly assumed in May that we would be good to go. Thank you all for informing me! So the trip has now been postponed until early July to try miss the summer holiday rush (unless I'm missing something else here
)The route has been cut to remove Italy. We still drive across it, but straight from Col d'Turini to San Bernadino pass now, so we have found some extra time (I really wasn't mega fussed about Italy anyway, I was only there recently).
I've also taken everyone's advice on the driving hours per day. The route is now down to 2500 miles with the exclusion of Italy, but I've made sure that we don't drive for much more than 6 hours each day (apart from the first and last days when we need to cannonball across the autoroutes). I know Google Maps won't be hugely accurate, but it's a reasonable reference point.
Thank you also for the suggestion of the Porsche museum, we will add that to the list
And because I'm hopelessly impatient and want to go on a roadtrip now, I'm off to the Nurburgring in early May
(It is open this time, unlike my last visit after a Spa trackday!) Can you post up a map of your revised route, we might be able to add a few more ideas!
For planning I use the free version of this http://www.tyretotravel.com/ as you can save and export to various sat navs.
For planning I use the free version of this http://www.tyretotravel.com/ as you can save and export to various sat navs.
Big E 118 said:
Can you post up a map of your revised route, we might be able to add a few more ideas!
For planning I use the free version of this http://www.tyretotravel.com/ as you can save and export to various sat navs.
We use TYRE to plan our tours then download to sat-navs. You do need a TomTom with "itinaries" though and not all have that. Also it doesn't like to let you plan a route that is closed at the time of planning and instead diverts yoou around and closed passes... unless someone has found a way around this; In which case please enlighten me.For planning I use the free version of this http://www.tyretotravel.com/ as you can save and export to various sat navs.
Big E 118 said:
Can you post up a map of your revised route, we might be able to add a few more ideas!
For planning I use the free version of this http://www.tyretotravel.com/ as you can save and export to various sat navs.
Sure. It's not hugely detailed, but here it is;For planning I use the free version of this http://www.tyretotravel.com/ as you can save and export to various sat navs.
It's pretty similar from before, so it's;
Route Napoleon
Col d'Turini
Monaco
Lake Como
San Bernadino Pass
Albula Pass
Stelvio
Grossglockner
Voralberg Pass
MB Stuttgart museum
Porsche museum
Darmstadt to Frankfurt autobahn
Nordschliefe
AdiT said:
We use TYRE to plan our tours then download to sat-navs. You do need a TomTom with "itinaries" though and not all have that. Also it doesn't like to let you plan a route that is closed at the time of planning and instead diverts yoou around and closed passes... unless someone has found a way around this; In which case please enlighten me.
Interesting stuff, thank you both. I rolled the firmware back on my old TomTom so I could use the itinerary function for a trip to Wales in 2013. At present I'm using Google Maps which is shared with the My Maps/Google Maps app on my S4. I shouldn't need to use data once the route is planned (it should just work off of GPS), but I'm on 3's 'all you can eat' data plan with feel at home in each country we visit, though I know this is far from ideal. Once I'm back from 73MM this weekend, I will have to look into this more.
barpilot, I will reply to your PM shortly
We've done a similar road trip for the last two years. In planning this year's we will incorporate the lessons from the last two, one of the main ones being plan for an absolute maximum of 5 hours driving, preferably 4 per day - if you are intense about the drive, want to take advantage of photo opps and have regular scenic view breaks, this is more than enough. Any more and we found we would be shattered. This works for two or three days but beyond that you enjoy it less, it all goes by in a bit of a blur and you remember less.
Are you following the d396/996 from Reims to Dijon - this was a real highlight of our trips.
Just our experience - we found the Route de napoleon to be a disappointment, there are far far better roads in the alps. Driving around lake como can be very frustrating and monaco i would say is too far south, too much of a detour. There's no way i would do those places and not do the andermatt loop - furka is an epic pass that you will want to repeat again and again. The lesser roads with no names are brilliant around the alps i would spend more time there - the roads around Davos and Cloisters come to mind.
Sacrilege perhaps but i'd also give the 'Ring a miss, preferring to do the B500 throgh the black forest up to Baden Baden, its a brilliant road.
HTH and enjoy, we found the experiences of others to be invaluable in planning our trips, but you will get as many opinions as you want on this topic; enjoy it, its a real privilege to be able to do these trips, get it right and you will want to repeat it year after year.
Are you following the d396/996 from Reims to Dijon - this was a real highlight of our trips.
Just our experience - we found the Route de napoleon to be a disappointment, there are far far better roads in the alps. Driving around lake como can be very frustrating and monaco i would say is too far south, too much of a detour. There's no way i would do those places and not do the andermatt loop - furka is an epic pass that you will want to repeat again and again. The lesser roads with no names are brilliant around the alps i would spend more time there - the roads around Davos and Cloisters come to mind.
Sacrilege perhaps but i'd also give the 'Ring a miss, preferring to do the B500 throgh the black forest up to Baden Baden, its a brilliant road.
HTH and enjoy, we found the experiences of others to be invaluable in planning our trips, but you will get as many opinions as you want on this topic; enjoy it, its a real privilege to be able to do these trips, get it right and you will want to repeat it year after year.
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