Putting together our euro trip for September
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We are off to Switzerland & Austria sometime in September, not sure on date but it will be over 14 days. Cars will be our Mk2 focus RS & our friends in the their 911. 1st day we intend to just get ourselves down to Luzerne, we are not to worried how long this takes as once we are there we can then relax for a couple of days enjoying the scenery and local bars & resturaunts :-) from Luzerne we intend to head to Davos then onto Innsbruck, then head to lake Konstanz. From lake Konstanz start to make our way back home via the Black Forrest.
We hope to get together next week so we can start to build in places of interest, hotels & such like, just thought I'd share this plan with PH as I know it's a wealth of knowledge on here. We are welcome to any advise, or recommendation of hotels & route advise, we will of course be heading of to do some of the passes :-) back in 2008 we did the Stelio pass & the St bernardino pass, we enjoyed the later far better than the Stelio as that was so busy.
I m looking forward to PHs advise
Best regards
Mark
Ps, I will let you know the progress we make over next weekend.
We hope to get together next week so we can start to build in places of interest, hotels & such like, just thought I'd share this plan with PH as I know it's a wealth of knowledge on here. We are welcome to any advise, or recommendation of hotels & route advise, we will of course be heading of to do some of the passes :-) back in 2008 we did the Stelio pass & the St bernardino pass, we enjoyed the later far better than the Stelio as that was so busy.
I m looking forward to PHs advise
Best regards
Mark
Ps, I will let you know the progress we make over next weekend.
done similar last year in an Eunos but started in the Blackforest and ended up in St Tropez, via Stelvi, Pisa and Monaco.
If your north of Austria i would suggest a visit to the Neuschwanstein castle at Schwangau.. .https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuschwanstein_Castle..check the spellings.
Great guided tours of a magnificent structure.
we stayed over at Lake Konstance but the weather was thundery stormy at best so never got the benefit.
another worthy visit is a town called Stein am Rhein.
when in Austria steer clear of a dish called Schpecknudle......you will thank me for it.
Im going the long route down to Dubrovnik this June so if i see owt on the way i will tip you off.
enjoy
If your north of Austria i would suggest a visit to the Neuschwanstein castle at Schwangau.. .https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuschwanstein_Castle..check the spellings.
Great guided tours of a magnificent structure.
we stayed over at Lake Konstance but the weather was thundery stormy at best so never got the benefit.
another worthy visit is a town called Stein am Rhein.
when in Austria steer clear of a dish called Schpecknudle......you will thank me for it.
Im going the long route down to Dubrovnik this June so if i see owt on the way i will tip you off.
enjoy
markiep1 said:
We are off to Switzerland & Austria sometime in September, not sure on date but it will be over 14 days. Cars will be our Mk2 focus RS & our friends in the their 911. 1st day we intend to just get ourselves down to Luzerne, we are not to worried how long this takes as once we are there we can then relax for a couple of days enjoying the scenery and local bars & resturaunts :-)
Ah the innocence of youth !If you are going to Luzern, take *plenty* of money.
Like £150 - £200 a day that you are there.
Cheapest hotel I could find was £100 a nite, excluding breakfast.
Cheapest evening meal for two, after an hour's search of the town, was £30 a head,
at some back street Italian place, the like of which I'd expect to pay
about a tenner a head outside Switzerland.
Austria is far cheaper and the locals are friendlier, I find.
Scenery much the same, however.
Also, the Austrians take full fat accepted everywhere EUR, not the
only Switzerland CHF.
Also, watch out for the Swiss motorway vignette. Smallest time you can
buy is a year, for about £30. The Austrians allow a ten day vignette,
at a much more tourist friendly £5.
markiep1 said:
from Luzerne we intend to head to Davos then onto Innsbruck, then head to lake Konstanz. From lake Konstanz start to make our way back home via the Black Forrest.
We hope to get together next week so we can start to build in places of interest, hotels & such like, just thought I'd share this plan with PH as I know it's a wealth of knowledge on here. We are welcome to any advise, or recommendation of hotels & route advise, we will of course be heading of to do some of the passes :-) back in 2008 we did the Stelio pass & the St bernardino pass, we enjoyed the later far better than the Stelio as that was so busy.
I m looking forward to PHs advise
Forest only has one R in it, and you might want to learn the differenceWe hope to get together next week so we can start to build in places of interest, hotels & such like, just thought I'd share this plan with PH as I know it's a wealth of knowledge on here. We are welcome to any advise, or recommendation of hotels & route advise, we will of course be heading of to do some of the passes :-) back in 2008 we did the Stelio pass & the St bernardino pass, we enjoyed the later far better than the Stelio as that was so busy.
I m looking forward to PHs advise
between advise and advice.
Generation Innit in action, I suspect.
HaylingJag said:
when in Austria steer clear of a dish called Schpecknudle......you will thank me for it.
I think you mean Speckknödel which are dumplings made from potato or stale bread with milk and egg yolks to which chopped bacon is added.Like pasta they are cooked in boiling water. Knödel are also to be found across the border in southern Germany but often plain without the bacon.
dcb said:
Forest only has one R in it, and you might want to learn the difference
between advise and advice.
Generation Innit in action, I suspect.
Thank you for your reply, have to add that it made my day when you quote me as the youth of today lol, unfortunately I'm long past that stage. I have to apologise for my poor spelling and grammar, It was never my strong point, even all those years ago when I was back in the Generation Innit :-) between advise and advice.
Generation Innit in action, I suspect.
Thanks for the info on Luzern, I will bear this in mind, but to be honest we are not on any type of budget.
Cheers
Mark
"Forest only has one R in it, and you might want to learn the difference
between advise and advice.
Generation Innit in action, I suspect."
not everyone is a "Semi retired advanced typist - mostly Linux / C++ / C" and you, to quote a phrase, "might want to learn" that different people have different abilities and skills in life, please keep to the topic.
between advise and advice.
Generation Innit in action, I suspect."
not everyone is a "Semi retired advanced typist - mostly Linux / C++ / C" and you, to quote a phrase, "might want to learn" that different people have different abilities and skills in life, please keep to the topic.
Red Devil said:
I think you mean Speckknödel which are dumplings made from potato or stale bread with milk and egg yolks to which chopped bacon is added.
Like pasta they are cooked in boiling water. Knödel are also to be found across the border in southern Germany but often plain without the bacon.
thats the one, i have a photo of it somewhere to remind me not to order it again. Funny thing is my Mrs ordered a veggie soup nad this was what they brought her out. i ended up sacrificing my tomato soup for itLike pasta they are cooked in boiling water. Knödel are also to be found across the border in southern Germany but often plain without the bacon.
Mark,
with regards to hotels i cant really recommend as we didn't have any itinerary. im sure at that time of the year you will be able to just rock up in a town or village and find somewhere. One thing to note though, and we have done this on numerous trips, the prices quoted on the desk will be dearer than on line. Find a hotel then see if it is on bookings.com or hotels.com. book online then stroll in with your booking reference.
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with regards to hotels i cant really recommend as we didn't have any itinerary. im sure at that time of the year you will be able to just rock up in a town or village and find somewhere. One thing to note though, and we have done this on numerous trips, the prices quoted on the desk will be dearer than on line. Find a hotel then see if it is on bookings.com or hotels.com. book online then stroll in with your booking reference.
D
Thank you HalylingJag that's very helpful :-) We should finalise a route this weekend, hopefully once we get that sorted we will be able to choose hotels along the route and get them pre booked on line, think we best go steady on the red wine, God only knows what we will,end up staying in lol.
Cheers
Mark
Cheers
Mark
Ok so we had a very successful weekend organising our euro trip
ferry booked & all hotels booked 
Our friends will travel down from North Yorkshire to Our house in kent a couple of days before we set off, this will give them a nice break before we set off on Monday 19th September. We have opted for an early ferry crossing, this gives us time for breakfast on board Soon as we disembark the ferry we will head straight down to Reims for a photo or two at the old grand prix pits + a bite to eat From Reims we head down to Lucerne, well the hotel is in Horw Bay on lake Lucerne, we have booked 3 nights at this beautiful location, our rooms have a lake view From Lucerne we will be heading over to Austria via a pass or 2 we have booked into a guest house in Navis, this is just south of Insbruck.We will be staying here for 5 nights, this gives us plenty of time to go find more fantastic driving roads, also we will make a visit to Salzburg. From Navis we head back into the Black Forest via lake Konstanz, the hotel we have booked is on Windgfallweiher lake in Feldberg, luckily for us it's on the B500 staying here for 2 nights. We then head up to Bernkastel Klaus on the the Mosel river, we came across this place last year whilst we were in the area for the ADAC WRC Rally but did not have much time to appreciate it, we have booked 2 nights here so should be able to enjoy it's quaint character From here we head back up to the ferry, should be around 4 to 5 hrs. The round trip is 1700 miles, this will increase considerably once we head off onto the passes and other interesting routes we can find once there
Seems a long way off but I'm sure it will come round pretty quick, really excited is an understatement especially as I'll be looking at a 911 ar$e most of the way
ferry booked & all hotels booked Our friends will travel down from North Yorkshire to Our house in kent a couple of days before we set off, this will give them a nice break before we set off on Monday 19th September. We have opted for an early ferry crossing, this gives us time for breakfast on board
Soon as we disembark the ferry we will head straight down to Reims for a photo or two at the old grand prix pits + a bite to eat From Reims we head down to Lucerne, well the hotel is in Horw Bay on lake Lucerne, we have booked 3 nights at this beautiful location, our rooms have a lake view From Lucerne we will be heading over to Austria via a pass or 2 we have booked into a guest house in Navis, this is just south of Insbruck.We will be staying here for 5 nights, this gives us plenty of time to go find more fantastic driving roads, also we will make a visit to Salzburg. From Navis we head back into the Black Forest via lake Konstanz, the hotel we have booked is on Windgfallweiher lake in Feldberg, luckily for us it's on the B500 staying here for 2 nights. We then head up to Bernkastel Klaus on the the Mosel river, we came across this place last year whilst we were in the area for the ADAC WRC Rally but did not have much time to appreciate it, we have booked 2 nights here so should be able to enjoy it's quaint character From here we head back up to the ferry, should be around 4 to 5 hrs. The round trip is 1700 miles, this will increase considerably once we head off onto the passes and other interesting routes we can find once there Seems a long way off but I'm sure it will come round pretty quick, really excited is an understatement especially as I'll be looking at a 911 ar$e most of the way
Nice one Mark,
sounds like a great adventure ahead. I have just booked a ferry for the 18th June, same thing, early crossing and brekkie on board. I googled the route to Dubrovnik, 1200 miles each way
might have to have a stop or two on the way down. Usual Euro Cruiser so will be in this again 
sounds like a great adventure ahead. I have just booked a ferry for the 18th June, same thing, early crossing and brekkie on board. I googled the route to Dubrovnik, 1200 miles each way
might have to have a stop or two on the way down. Usual Euro Cruiser so will be in this again Been a long time coming but finaly its time for some fun 👍😎😀 on the 6am ferry tomorrow morning. Will be splitting the journey to Lucerne into 3 stints, 1st stop will be reims, fancy a few pics parked alongside the old Reims GP circuit pits 👍 next stop will be decided by the RS and when it's thirsty for some V Power 😀 soon as I get some spare time I'll do a write up and a few pics 👍
Cheers
Mark
Cheers
Mark
Watch out for the cops in Baden-Wurttemberg area especially the B500. Camera just as you enter the town Geroldsau at the start of the climb or beginning of the town limits as you travel north towards Baden-Baden. Also mobile vans mostly on weekends in summer. We saw none as we pass through there middle of the week beginning September.
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