Evo Triangle advice 2017?
Discussion
So I searched this but loads of old threads = old laws, and old speed traps etc.
What is there important to know about the ET? Is it still the best?
I ask because I discovered by chance today that the Evo Triangle is less than 15km from my house! I drove an amazing road and then googled it, appears to be the precursor to the ET.
It was fun even in a remapped diesel a3 s-tronic. How much fun would it be in an R32 or S3 or M3???
I can't wait 'till summer.
What is there important to know about the ET? Is it still the best?
I ask because I discovered by chance today that the Evo Triangle is less than 15km from my house! I drove an amazing road and then googled it, appears to be the precursor to the ET.
It was fun even in a remapped diesel a3 s-tronic. How much fun would it be in an R32 or S3 or M3???
I can't wait 'till summer.
Don't know about best, but it's been so hyped that it has more than its fair share of idiots like this talentless t
t - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoDAX1ZJ-g8
Other roads are available.
t - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoDAX1ZJ-g8Other roads are available.
EVO is good, not the best though, plus as said it attracts people who don't understand common sense on open roads where every bend is not sighted... or the car/talent ratio is way out of skew!
This is one of my routes I use a lot in Spring, Summer and Autumn. If I see what seems a lot of cars around Cerrigydrudion that are EVO bound I will cut it out of my run.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/dir/Roadchef+Chester...
Regarding car, IMHO a powerful heavy car is not the what I would choose for Welsh roads; keeping smooth progressive momentum is what I prefer, loosing yourself in the driving. Out of the three cars you mention I would say M3... in E30 flavour!
Finally, early starts are what you want, seeing as you are so close you should have that covered. I try to get to the roads I want before 07:00, getting home before lunch and more importantly before the traffic!
This is one of my routes I use a lot in Spring, Summer and Autumn. If I see what seems a lot of cars around Cerrigydrudion that are EVO bound I will cut it out of my run.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/dir/Roadchef+Chester...
Regarding car, IMHO a powerful heavy car is not the what I would choose for Welsh roads; keeping smooth progressive momentum is what I prefer, loosing yourself in the driving. Out of the three cars you mention I would say M3... in E30 flavour!
Finally, early starts are what you want, seeing as you are so close you should have that covered. I try to get to the roads I want before 07:00, getting home before lunch and more importantly before the traffic!
Thanks, I have pretty much just been limited to exposure to the A5, so I go Chester - Mold - Wrexham - Oswestry - LLangollen - Corwen - Conwy - A55 - Chester, even just an A road it is pretty immense and some super long straights on the Corwen - Conwyn part of the journey.
There is also an excellent farm shop called Rhug Estate just after Corwen, the meat sold here is DIVINE the only word I can think of to adequetly sum it up. Expensive though.
There is also an excellent farm shop called Rhug Estate just after Corwen, the meat sold here is DIVINE the only word I can think of to adequetly sum it up. Expensive though.
Tickle said:
EVO is good, not the best though, plus as said it attracts people who don't understand common sense on open roads where every bend is not sighted... or the car/talent ratio is way out of skew!
This is one of my routes I use a lot in Spring, Summer and Autumn. If I see what seems a lot of cars around Cerrigydrudion that are EVO bound I will cut it out of my run.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/dir/Roadchef+Chester...
Regarding car, IMHO a powerful heavy car is not the what I would choose for Welsh roads; keeping smooth progressive momentum is what I prefer, loosing yourself in the driving. Out of the three cars you mention I would say M3... in E30 flavour!
Finally, early starts are what you want, seeing as you are so close you should have that covered. I try to get to the roads I want before 07:00, getting home before lunch and more importantly before the traffic!
Looks a decent little route Mark. Still must get over this spring for a little Elise meet up!This is one of my routes I use a lot in Spring, Summer and Autumn. If I see what seems a lot of cars around Cerrigydrudion that are EVO bound I will cut it out of my run.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/dir/Roadchef+Chester...
Regarding car, IMHO a powerful heavy car is not the what I would choose for Welsh roads; keeping smooth progressive momentum is what I prefer, loosing yourself in the driving. Out of the three cars you mention I would say M3... in E30 flavour!
Finally, early starts are what you want, seeing as you are so close you should have that covered. I try to get to the roads I want before 07:00, getting home before lunch and more importantly before the traffic!
Using the link from another poster, this is an example of my route, I get here via Llandegla, Nant Y Garth, from Hawarden and Dobshill from the Wirral. Car or Bike, forget the Evo 'triangle' :-) the A5 leg of it is boring really, and far more interesting roads lie elsewhere. A5 café is good.
Please consider your overtakes, these can be fast roads, and bikes often do early runs to get away from cars, including those used by people new to the area and have no idea what a petrolhead haven it is, there's plenty of room for both, and I use both, however there is frequent sadness. I'm aware that incidents have involved car groups/cruises which have got mixed up with bikers on Denbigh Moor and other areas, just consider bikes can get an overtake done in a blink of an eye sometimes, where a car usually doesn't, no matter how fast it 'feels' it is also very wide and a biker can't as easily change a commited line. People rave about the Evo Triangle, but there are alternative great roads, with less traffic than you'd imagine, if you're lucky of course haha, word of mouth leads to more tourists I suppose, try and do these roads both ways perhaps, quite different.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/dir/52.9595177,-3.86...
Please consider your overtakes, these can be fast roads, and bikes often do early runs to get away from cars, including those used by people new to the area and have no idea what a petrolhead haven it is, there's plenty of room for both, and I use both, however there is frequent sadness. I'm aware that incidents have involved car groups/cruises which have got mixed up with bikers on Denbigh Moor and other areas, just consider bikes can get an overtake done in a blink of an eye sometimes, where a car usually doesn't, no matter how fast it 'feels' it is also very wide and a biker can't as easily change a commited line. People rave about the Evo Triangle, but there are alternative great roads, with less traffic than you'd imagine, if you're lucky of course haha, word of mouth leads to more tourists I suppose, try and do these roads both ways perhaps, quite different.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/dir/52.9595177,-3.86...
Red Devil said:
Don't know about best, but it's been so hyped that it has more than its fair share of idiots like this talentless tt - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoDAX1ZJ-g8
Other roads are available.
I am interested in what caused the near crash at about 2m 20s. Both the brow and the left bend were gentle; the speed though difficult to tell was probably not excessive. He braked both before and just after the brow, and presumably the problem was braking just as the car went light at the top of the brow. Again presumably the driver over corrected when the car went left.t - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoDAX1ZJ-g8Other roads are available.
Neither driver used good lines.
Other thoughts?
waremark said:
I am interested in what caused the near crash at about 2m 20s. Both the brow and the left bend were gentle; the speed though difficult to tell was probably not excessive. He braked both before and just after the brow, and presumably the problem was braking just as the car went light at the top of the brow. Again presumably the driver over corrected when the car went left.
Neither driver used good lines.
Other thoughts?
I think the driver was inept Neither driver used good lines.
Other thoughts?
A bit like this fellow :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naO9t85dl3E&t=...
8.18 onwards....
3rd gear 45mph
waremark said:
I am interested in what caused the near crash at about 2m 20s. Both the brow and the left bend were gentle; the speed though difficult to tell was probably not excessive. He braked both before and just after the brow, and presumably the problem was braking just as the car went light at the top of the brow. Again presumably the driver over corrected when the car went left.
Neither driver used good lines.
Other thoughts?
Having driven this road once or twice, and after seeing it on video before my first outing, I was very surprised with how much of a crest to drop it is. I was taking it very steady, 40mph ish and it shocked me how much of a drop it was. Neither driver used good lines.
Other thoughts?
I reckon a bit of lift off oversteer was to blame, but Im no racing driver so couldn't be sure.
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