Councils filling potholes 'every 19 seconds'

Councils filling potholes 'every 19 seconds'

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CoolHands

18,640 posts

195 months

Monday 1st January
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The roads are still dreadful around NW London. This is the type of nonsense they seem to believe as I had a read through some LA minutes

brent said:
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Furthermore, elevated levels of better-targeted planned maintenance reduce the need to spend money on reactive maintenance. Using better data analysis through Artificial Intelligence (Al) condition surveys, we are carefully targeting a wider range of planned maintenance treatments. The structural condition of local roads ("Unclassified" roads) has improved from 24% needing major maintenance in 2016/17 to only 9% in 20/21. Indeed, the total number of carriageway defects identified by all safety inspections has fallen by 60% between 2018/19 and 20/21 (3095 to 1256).
Clearly utter bks noone in their right mind would believe. From April 24 they’ve got a new contractor for the next 10 years, doubt there will be much improvement

swisstoni

17,000 posts

279 months

Monday 1st January
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Especially as they claim they are in dire straits financially and having to close day centres.

Personally I think road maintenance should be taken out of the hands of local authorities.
They have enough to be getting on with and I suspect they get taken for a ride by contractors.

Riley Blue

20,955 posts

226 months

Monday 1st January
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Every council responsible for highways will have a 'repair standards manual'. I live in Chesterfield so here's the link to Derbyshire's (see Section 6, Page 11):

https://www.derbyshire.gov.uk/site-elements/docume...

Find out the portfolio holder for highways and message them (as politely as you can) whenever standards fall below those in the manual, their in-box will be stuffed in no time and it's far more effective than bhing on social media.

DodgyGeezer

40,456 posts

190 months

Monday 1st January
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apparently, £165k, which isn't cheap - but by all accounts does the required job quickly, well and with minimal traffic disruption. Best of all it's British built. I can't see why these aren't flying out of the factory - unless of course it doesn't help with the brown envelope merry-go-round...


CoolHands

18,640 posts

195 months

Monday 1st January
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How can it possibly compete with this quality?!
bodhi said:
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MB140

4,066 posts

103 months

Monday 1st January
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DodgyGeezer said:
apparently, £165k, which isn't cheap - but by all accounts does the required job quickly, well and with minimal traffic disruption. Best of all it's British built. I can't see why these aren't flying out of the factory - unless of course it doesn't help with the brown envelope merry-go-round...

I posted on here a while ago. My wife’s friends husband has the major contract for all of Lincolnshire to repair potholes and gritting services.

He flys to work in his private helicopter and has a multi-million pound farm that he lives on.

I agree, the councils and the contractors are probably very happy with the current situation of robbing the tax payer blind.

Terminator X

15,084 posts

204 months

Monday 1st January
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The potholes near me are an embarrassment however I was in the Peak District on Friday and they were far worse. Some would literally break the car if you failed to spot them.

TX.

hidetheelephants

24,357 posts

193 months

Monday 1st January
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DodgyGeezer said:
apparently, £165k, which isn't cheap - but by all accounts does the required job quickly, well and with minimal traffic disruption. Best of all it's British built. I can't see why these aren't flying out of the factory - unless of course it doesn't help with the brown envelope merry-go-round...

Very jolly until it goes phut, then you can't do anything at all. Is there a particular advantage to having one device do all three tasks, because I can't see one. Also not seeing why its mounted to a rubber duck rather than a much cheaper skidsteer.

CoolHands

18,640 posts

195 months

Monday 1st January
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Looks like a good machine to me, see it in action. If they actually did repairs like this they wouldn’t open up again 3 months later.


Escort Si-130

3,272 posts

180 months

Sunday 7th January
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It depends on the councils, some are better than others. Some just want to spend the money on cycle schemes and say its on roads, these are the ones with more pot holes than anything else.

DodgyGeezer

40,456 posts

190 months

Sunday 7th January
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hidetheelephants said:
DodgyGeezer said:
apparently, £165k, which isn't cheap - but by all accounts does the required job quickly, well and with minimal traffic disruption. Best of all it's British built. I can't see why these aren't flying out of the factory - unless of course it doesn't help with the brown envelope merry-go-round...

Very jolly until it goes phut, then you can't do anything at all. Is there a particular advantage to having one device do all three tasks, because I can't see one. Also not seeing why its mounted to a rubber duck rather than a much cheaper skidsteer.
It'd still be better than the constant half arsed attempts currently undertaken. With the mindset of "...what if it goes wrong..." we'd still be riding horses and using wooden ships...

hidetheelephants

24,357 posts

193 months

Sunday 7th January
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DodgyGeezer said:
It'd still be better than the constant half arsed attempts currently undertaken. With the mindset of "...what if it goes wrong..." we'd still be riding horses and using wooden ships...
I'm not objecting to mechanisation, it's "3 machines in one"; if it goes tech you're lumbered and it's probably more expensive/less productive than 3 separate machines.

swisstoni

17,000 posts

279 months

Sunday 7th January
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I just don’t understand why councils don’t take at least some road repair back in-house.
If a few adjacent councils clubbed together to create a road mending collective they wouldn’t be at the mercy of contractors.

Tigerj

335 posts

96 months

Sunday 7th January
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swisstoni said:
I just don’t understand why councils don’t take at least some road repair back in-house.
If a few adjacent councils clubbed together to create a road mending collective they wouldn’t be at the mercy of contractors.
Easier said than done to get councils to work together. All it takes is one or two to start making noise at election time about how your council tax money is spend on repairing roads in the county over and it all starts to fall apart.

robinessex

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11,059 posts

181 months

Sunday 7th January
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swisstoni said:
I just don’t understand why councils don’t take at least some road repair back in-house.
If a few adjacent councils clubbed together to create a road mending collective they wouldn’t be at the mercy of contractors.
Because the council won't get blamed for bad work, and it would stop the flow of brown envelopes.

robinessex

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11,059 posts

181 months

Thursday 11th January
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Pothole insurance claims soar 40% in a year to hit record high

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/cars/news/pothole-insura...

Insurance group Admiral logged more pothole damage claims than ever in 2023
Not only is the number of cars damaged rising, but so is the average claim cost

The number of pothole insurance claims has risen 40 per cent in a year, according to the UK's largest car insurance firm.
Admiral said it received a record 1,324 claims for car damage due to potholes in 2023, an increase from 946 in 2022.
Driving into a pothole can damage a vehicle's tyres, alloy wheels, steering alignment and suspension.
The average pothole claim payout also rose by almost a third in 2023 when compared to 2022, from £2,378 to £3,070.
Admiral said the increase is due to modern vehicles being more complicated to repair, and therefore more expensive.

The insurance firm's previous record year for potholes was 2018, with 1,057 claims, largely due to the 'Beast from the East' storm damaging roads.

bodhi

10,503 posts

229 months

Thursday 11th January
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CoolHands said:
How can it possibly compete with this quality?!
bodhi said:
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Do we want to take any guesses how long this repair lasted according to social media?

Two days. Two days and it was an enormous hole again. I went down the same road yesterday and they have finally done a proper job.

I've had my car back now, so the council will be getting a claim for recovery, rear shocks and the supporting cup that the hole blew through.

No doubt they'll question replacing both sides, but can't say I'd ever just replace one shock....

CoolHands

18,640 posts

195 months

Saturday 13th January
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Getting worse still round here, and not had Jan / Feb frosts yet.

It’s appalling that they aren’t doing road checks themselves, so unless I report them then there’s no chance, and since you’re driving can’t always remeber exact locations. Just done a batch in fixmystreet. Then you see actually many of the areas already had the same / nearby ones reported months ago.

Lazy fks aren’t doing their job, I just don’t understand why the council would not write in performance checks to the fking contracts.

robinessex

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11,059 posts

181 months

Sunday 14th January
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CoolHands said:
Getting worse still round here, and not had Jan / Feb frosts yet.

It’s appalling that they aren’t doing road checks themselves, so unless I report them then there’s no chance, and since you’re driving can’t always remeber exact locations. Just done a batch in fixmystreet. Then you see actually many of the areas already had the same / nearby ones reported months ago.

Lazy fks aren’t doing their job, I just don’t understand why the council would not write in performance checks to the fking contracts.
Might stop the flow of brown envelpoes

BoRED S2upid

19,702 posts

240 months

Sunday 14th January
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Escort Si-130 said:
It depends on the councils, some are better than others. Some just want to spend the money on cycle schemes and say its on roads, these are the ones with more pot holes than anything else.
Ours are very good. It’s the only thing they are good at but you report the pot hole online along with dozens of others and a week 2 at the most and it’s gone.