Councils filling potholes 'every 19 seconds'
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As a followup, watch this clip from Youtube of a crosskart being driven on what looks like semi-countryside roads in the USA. Note the almost billiard-smooth surface. Why can't we have those here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNv94AXy8Qw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNv94AXy8Qw
robinessex said:
As a followup, watch this clip from Youtube of a crosskart being driven on what looks like semi-countryside roads in the USA. Note the almost billiard-smooth surface. Why can't we have those here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNv94AXy8Qw
Infrastructure in the US is in crisis, for all we have potholes at least we don't have bridges collapsing. One video of a decent bit of road is not indicative of anything whatsoever.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNv94AXy8Qw
stickleback123 said:
robinessex said:
As a followup, watch this clip from Youtube of a crosskart being driven on what looks like semi-countryside roads in the USA. Note the almost billiard-smooth surface. Why can't we have those here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNv94AXy8Qw
Infrastructure in the US is in crisis, for all we have potholes at least we don't have bridges collapsing. One video of a decent bit of road is not indicative of anything whatsoever.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNv94AXy8Qw
anonymous-user said:
robinessex said:
swisstoni said:
I’m in no way close to the situation but it does seem that private contractors are making a very good living out of it.
I wonder if some other people are too.
Yes, the council guy who hands out the contracts, has nice holidays abroad. Or his driveway done free.I wonder if some other people are too.
Source - worked for an Asphalt producer for 4 years.
BoRED S2upid said:
robinessex said:
I was following another but car, didn't get a chance. The Highways tagged its location as 4, the worst. About 2ft to the left of the road center. The only option would be to swerve right, not a good idea.
Claim from the council. robinessex said:
swisstoni said:
I’m in no way close to the situation but it does seem that private contractors are making a very good living out of it.
I wonder if some other people are too.
Yes, the council guy who hands out the contracts, has nice holidays abroad. Or his driveway done free.I wonder if some other people are too.
CoolHands said:
Time for my annual moan - what the f
k is going on
I’m thinking of getting a horse and cart to survive the craters & ruts
Yes it’s really bad at the moment but, as I understand it, they aren’t worth ‘permanent’ fixing until the weather warms up.k is going onI’m thinking of getting a horse and cart to survive the craters & ruts
Round my way they are just dobbing a bit of tar into the worst ones.
robinessex said:
I have relatives in the USA. They've confirmed, after a visit here last year, their roads are orders of magnitude better than ours. My stepdaughter is here from Sweden for Xmas. She's also appalled with our roads, I've been to Sweden, and the roads are nigh on perfect there. I learned to ride a motorbike in 1963, I don't remember any issues with potholes. Wouldn't dream of riding one today though.
It depends where in the USA.Some of our roads look like the air force uses them for bombing practice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIgBirt-pJo
Rishi Sunak sets out how pothole funding from HS2 savings to be used
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-67441085
Prime Minister Rishi Sunak has set out how £8.3bn of promised funding will be used to tackle what he called the "scourge of potholes".
The PM announced the money last month as part of plans to scrap part of the HS2 high-speed rail line and spend the savings on other projects.
The funding will go to England's local councils over the next 11 years for road maintenance.
Councils said the cost of repairing local roads was closer to £14bn.....continues
Looks good, until you do the sums. That's £8.3bn over 11 YEARS. So the yearly spend is circa £755,000,000. Divide that up by the number of local authorities, and I can't see it helping much.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-67441085
Prime Minister Rishi Sunak has set out how £8.3bn of promised funding will be used to tackle what he called the "scourge of potholes".
The PM announced the money last month as part of plans to scrap part of the HS2 high-speed rail line and spend the savings on other projects.
The funding will go to England's local councils over the next 11 years for road maintenance.
Councils said the cost of repairing local roads was closer to £14bn.....continues
Looks good, until you do the sums. That's £8.3bn over 11 YEARS. So the yearly spend is circa £755,000,000. Divide that up by the number of local authorities, and I can't see it helping much.
robinessex said:
Rishi Sunak sets out how pothole funding from HS2 savings to be used
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-67441085
Prime Minister Rishi Sunak has set out how £8.3bn of promised funding will be used to tackle what he called the "scourge of potholes".
The PM announced the money last month as part of plans to scrap part of the HS2 high-speed rail line and spend the savings on other projects.
The funding will go to England's local councils over the next 11 years for road maintenance.
Councils said the cost of repairing local roads was closer to £14bn.....continues
Looks good, until you do the sums. That's £8.3bn over 11 YEARS. So the yearly spend is circa £755,000,000. Divide that up by the number of local authorities, and I can't see it helping much.
What a load of bullshttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-67441085
Prime Minister Rishi Sunak has set out how £8.3bn of promised funding will be used to tackle what he called the "scourge of potholes".
The PM announced the money last month as part of plans to scrap part of the HS2 high-speed rail line and spend the savings on other projects.
The funding will go to England's local councils over the next 11 years for road maintenance.
Councils said the cost of repairing local roads was closer to £14bn.....continues
Looks good, until you do the sums. That's £8.3bn over 11 YEARS. So the yearly spend is circa £755,000,000. Divide that up by the number of local authorities, and I can't see it helping much.
t, HS2 was funded with hypothecated borrowing and in any case they should be funding basic road repairs anyway; what kind of gimcrack country can't afford to run a railway and fix the roads?CoolHands said:
I’m still in the mode of how can the most basic of jobs that even the thickest of workmen can carry out, not be cheap. It’s literally filling holes. Instead the contractors charge councils millions, it’s a joke.
I've seen, this summer, Fred and Harry come to 'repair' a pothole. It took a day. That evening, when I took woof-woof for walkies, I inspected it. A tentative prod with my walking boots soon produced a small pile of bits as it disintegrated. Most local authorities dump road maintenance onto a private company. Essex uses Ringway Jacobs. They're useless, a couple of local authorities have now given them the push. Incidentally, they are ultimately owned by a French Company.robinessex said:
CoolHands said:
I’m still in the mode of how can the most basic of jobs that even the thickest of workmen can carry out, not be cheap. It’s literally filling holes. Instead the contractors charge councils millions, it’s a joke.
I've seen, this summer, Fred and Harry come to 'repair' a pothole. It took a day. That evening, when I took woof-woof for walkies, I inspected it. A tentative prod with my walking boots soon produced a small pile of bits as it disintegrated. Most local authorities dump road maintenance onto a private company. Essex uses Ringway Jacobs. They're useless, a couple of local authorities have now given them the push. Incidentally, they are ultimately owned by a French Company.Ah - good to find a thread I can have a rant in!
So, Thursday night I went to pick a friend up to pop out for some food, we were minding our own business heading down the lane from his village when we heard an enormous bang from the left hand side of the car. Turns out we'd hit this at about 45/50 mph:
As it was dark and the pothole was full of water we had no way of seeing it..anyway we pulled over as soon as it was safe to look for damage, as there was a horrible rattle from the rear suspension. Whilst we were having a look, another car pulled up behind us asking if we were ok, and if we'd hit that pothole as well....turns out in the layby just down from where we had stopped, there were 3 cars all stranded with flat tyres.
We could see my tyres were fine, so we limped to the pub at the end of the lane so we could have a look under a street light. Nothing obvious broken, just the rattle from the back, but decided to play it safe and abandoned vehicle to get it recovered later on.
Obviously concerned about the number of claims heading their way, the County Council sprang into action the next day and sent their crack team of hole repairers out. As you can see, absolutely no corners were cut and they did a proper job on it making sure it didn't happen again.
That was done on Friday - 2 days ago - and according to the village's social media group, it's failed already and is a pothole again. I'm guessing the crushed Oreos they filled it with aren't as hard wearing as thought.
Already got the report number and when I get the bill for the car a claim will be going in.
So, Thursday night I went to pick a friend up to pop out for some food, we were minding our own business heading down the lane from his village when we heard an enormous bang from the left hand side of the car. Turns out we'd hit this at about 45/50 mph:
As it was dark and the pothole was full of water we had no way of seeing it..anyway we pulled over as soon as it was safe to look for damage, as there was a horrible rattle from the rear suspension. Whilst we were having a look, another car pulled up behind us asking if we were ok, and if we'd hit that pothole as well....turns out in the layby just down from where we had stopped, there were 3 cars all stranded with flat tyres.
We could see my tyres were fine, so we limped to the pub at the end of the lane so we could have a look under a street light. Nothing obvious broken, just the rattle from the back, but decided to play it safe and abandoned vehicle to get it recovered later on.
Obviously concerned about the number of claims heading their way, the County Council sprang into action the next day and sent their crack team of hole repairers out. As you can see, absolutely no corners were cut and they did a proper job on it making sure it didn't happen again.
That was done on Friday - 2 days ago - and according to the village's social media group, it's failed already and is a pothole again. I'm guessing the crushed Oreos they filled it with aren't as hard wearing as thought.
Already got the report number and when I get the bill for the car a claim will be going in.
What I do find interesting is that in some areas there are a distinct lack of potholes, and very well looked after roads. These are generally more affluent areas with admittedly less traffic but not necessarily.
I found that very interesting going to an job interview near Chipping Norton, and being amazed at the road quality, freshly painted lines, no pot holes, fresh tar laid everywhere, about 20 miles away the roads were pathetic, full of holes, no maintenance whatsoever. Amazing what donors, and likely affluent friends can do.
I found that very interesting going to an job interview near Chipping Norton, and being amazed at the road quality, freshly painted lines, no pot holes, fresh tar laid everywhere, about 20 miles away the roads were pathetic, full of holes, no maintenance whatsoever. Amazing what donors, and likely affluent friends can do.
flatlandsman said:
What I do find interesting is that in some areas there are a distinct lack of potholes, and very well looked after roads. These are generally more affluent areas with admittedly less traffic but not necessarily.
I found that very interesting going to an job interview near Chipping Norton, and being amazed at the road quality, freshly painted lines, no pot holes, fresh tar laid everywhere, about 20 miles away the roads were pathetic, full of holes, no maintenance whatsoever. Amazing what donors, and likely affluent friends can do.
… and Rod Stewart still had time to appear on Jools Holland’s Hootenanny last night.I found that very interesting going to an job interview near Chipping Norton, and being amazed at the road quality, freshly painted lines, no pot holes, fresh tar laid everywhere, about 20 miles away the roads were pathetic, full of holes, no maintenance whatsoever. Amazing what donors, and likely affluent friends can do.
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