Why are motorway location signs/markers in metric units?

Why are motorway location signs/markers in metric units?

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BiggestVern

139 posts

130 months

Monday 22nd January
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If you look you will find all London Underground routes are also marked in km. from Chipping Ongar station even though that's no longer part of the network.

smn159

12,662 posts

217 months

Tuesday 23rd January
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Watcher of the skies said:
Presumably because all the sports apps are metric and it's easier to perform calculations such as calories consumed etc.
You can generally set them to either. A calculation is a calculation, doesn't matter if it's metric or imperial.

Common race distances are mostly metric, 100m, 200m, 400m, 800m, 5k, 10k etc up to half marathon distance, so makes more sense to use metric.

standards

1,137 posts

218 months

Tuesday 23rd January
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GAjon said:
I’ll might mull this over whilst having a pint of lager.
Would that be foreign lager ?


Mr Penguin

1,173 posts

39 months

Tuesday 23rd January
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boyse7en said:
You can even buy wine by the pint now, thanks to a recent change to the law. Those Brexit freedoms finally coming to fruition...
The fact that any government makes it illegal to sell wine that isn't in a certain size bottle is utterly ridiculous.

CrutyRammers

13,735 posts

198 months

Tuesday 23rd January
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Mr Penguin said:
boyse7en said:
You can even buy wine by the pint now, thanks to a recent change to the law. Those Brexit freedoms finally coming to fruition...
The fact that any government makes it illegal to sell wine that isn't in a certain size bottle is utterly ridiculous.
That's surely to stop unscrupulous traders making bottles which look like a full 1L but are actually 950ml or whatever?

smn159

12,662 posts

217 months

Tuesday 23rd January
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CrutyRammers said:
Mr Penguin said:
boyse7en said:
You can even buy wine by the pint now, thanks to a recent change to the law. Those Brexit freedoms finally coming to fruition...
The fact that any government makes it illegal to sell wine that isn't in a certain size bottle is utterly ridiculous.
That's surely to stop unscrupulous traders making bottles which look like a full 1L but are actually 950ml or whatever?
Yep, standard sizes are to allow consumer to compare prices more easily. What would be utterly ridiculous would be to allow a free for all whereby you'd end up with companies making smaller and smaller bottles to maintain a price point

kambites

67,575 posts

221 months

Tuesday 23rd January
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smn159 said:
What would be utterly ridiculous would be to allow a free for all whereby you'd end up with companies making smaller and smaller bottles to maintain a price point
Like pretty much every other food product you mean? biggrin

ingenieur

4,097 posts

181 months

Tuesday 23rd January
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911hope said:
boyse7en said:
You can even buy wine by the pint now, thanks to a recent change to the law. Those Brexit freedoms finally coming to fruition...
What supplier is going to create new packaging for wine, for only one market (UK), to appeal to a few idiots who think this important?

You will only be able to buy hypothetical pints of wine.
Is this a genuine question?

If you were a new supplier of wine in the UK the opportunity to create new packaging based on the pint alongside maybe something trendy like packaging which shows you are on the climate change train is one you're going to be eager to exploit.

ingenieur

4,097 posts

181 months

Tuesday 23rd January
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CrutyRammers said:
Mr Penguin said:
boyse7en said:
You can even buy wine by the pint now, thanks to a recent change to the law. Those Brexit freedoms finally coming to fruition...
The fact that any government makes it illegal to sell wine that isn't in a certain size bottle is utterly ridiculous.
That's surely to stop unscrupulous traders making bottles which look like a full 1L but are actually 950ml or whatever?
I wish they did sell wine in 1L bottles.


aturnick54

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1,086 posts

28 months

Tuesday 23rd January
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smn159 said:
Yep, standard sizes are to allow consumer to compare prices more easily. What would be utterly ridiculous would be to allow a free for all whereby you'd end up with companies making smaller and smaller bottles to maintain a price point
Do they not tend to have the price per litre anyway on the price label?

sixor8

6,293 posts

268 months

Tuesday 23rd January
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Doesn't apply to beer it seems. I've seen and bought 275ml, 284ml (1/2 a pint smile ), 300, 330 and of course 500 as well as 1 pint. The supermarkets are obliged, of course, to display price per litre on the shelf. Not seen this on wine. scratchchin

I got used to working out the accuracy of a car's speedo on the motorway side markers (way before GPS / Tom toms). Hold a steady speed and count 10 of them (1 km). Divide into 3600 gives speed in km / hr. If you hold 62 (100 km/hr), it should take 36 seconds. smile

Dingu

3,784 posts

30 months

Tuesday 23rd January
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aturnick54 said:
Possibly the cost of updating signs yes. But I'm sure the vast majority these days would be happy to see metric signs. .
Honestly, nobody cares that the signs are in Miles. I can certainly think of many many many better things to do with the money than pointlessly change all the road signs.

markh1973

1,807 posts

168 months

Tuesday 23rd January
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Watcher of the skies said:
Presumably because all the sports apps are metric and it's easier to perform calculations such as calories consumed etc.
Sports apps use whatever measure you want - using miles when running a 5km race would be trickier to picture.

When I run long distances I keep my brain distracted by converting between km and miles for the pace I'm running at. I know I'm tired when I can't do the calculations.

AlexS

1,551 posts

232 months

Tuesday 23rd January
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aturnick54 said:
A random thought that was on my mind on this windy Monday.

On motorways and major A roads, these markers and location signs are used to allow emergency services to find the location of a driver (if they've called using a mobile phone for example).



These signs are installed at 0.5km intervals, and distances are shown in kilometres to one decimal place. The marker posts are installed at 0.1km intervals, and again distances are in kilometres.

I'm thinking this may be something to do with road planning, as distances for this is also done in metric measurements. But why do they use metric on these sign posts, and stick to using imperial measurements on road signs? Surely it would make more sense to keep the units in an imperial measurement.

There is the argument that metric measurements are easier to visualise than imperial, which leads to the question of why aren't all signs metric instead?
Why would the emergency services need to use a marker board to locate someone calling on a mobile when that person is already using a device that can accurately report its location to the emergency servces?

aturnick54

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1,086 posts

28 months

Friday 26th January
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Dingu said:
Honestly, nobody cares that the signs are in Miles. I can certainly think of many many many better things to do with the money than pointlessly change all the road signs.
Personally I would much prefer to see km as it's easier to visualise. Particularly for the younger generations who are taught nothing but metric measurements at school.

Watcher of the skies

530 posts

37 months

Friday 26th January
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aturnick54 said:
Dingu said:
Honestly, nobody cares that the signs are in Miles. I can certainly think of many many many better things to do with the money than pointlessly change all the road signs.
Personally I would much prefer to see km as it's easier to visualise. Particularly for the younger generations who are taught nothing but metric measurements at school.
Easier for you to visualise you mean.
Personally I have to convert lengths and distances into imperial in order to visualise them. If someone says they are 6ft tall I know exactly how tall they are - if they say they are 178cm it means little to me.
Although children are taught in metric my children were also taught about imperial measurements so that they can at least understand them when they come across them.

Driversmatter

149 posts

93 months

Sunday 28th January
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It's an engineering thing - engineers measure in metric

Dingu

3,784 posts

30 months

Sunday 28th January
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aturnick54 said:
Dingu said:
Honestly, nobody cares that the signs are in Miles. I can certainly think of many many many better things to do with the money than pointlessly change all the road signs.
Personally I would much prefer to see km as it's easier to visualise. Particularly for the younger generations who are taught nothing but metric measurements at school.
Well you cough up the £billions then.

pingu393

7,806 posts

205 months

Sunday 28th January
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aturnick54 said:
smn159 said:
Plenty prefer metric in the running / cycling worlds too
In all fairness it sounds more impressive to cycle 100km than 62.14 miles
I know that I was tired at the time, but my brain was fuddled when I was running a 26 mile 385 yd race that was marked in kilometres confused

Especially when I got a Mars bar at the finish and not a Snickers.

aturnick54

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1,086 posts

28 months

Monday 29th January
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Watcher of the skies said:
Easier for you to visualise you mean.
Personally I have to convert lengths and distances into imperial in order to visualise them. If someone says they are 6ft tall I know exactly how tall they are - if they say they are 178cm it means little to me.
Although children are taught in metric my children were also taught about imperial measurements so that they can at least understand them when they come across them.
These days there is no coverage of imperial units at school. The curriculum teaches only metric.