cat and fiddle to get average speed camers
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I think most bikers within the vicinity will now be learning how to cover their numberplate with their foot whilst they ride past the cameras.
I can also see some entrepreneur making a killing setting up a burger van just 100m inside the 'zone'. Spend 10 mins scoffing a burger = average speed of 15mph or something
I can also see some entrepreneur making a killing setting up a burger van just 100m inside the 'zone'. Spend 10 mins scoffing a burger = average speed of 15mph or something
Shay HTFC said:
I think most bikers within the vicinity will now be learning how to cover their numberplate with their foot whilst they ride past the cameras.
Why would they need to do that - I though the average speed cameras took forward-facing photos?However, my numberplates seem to have been stolen/fallen off officer
mmm-five said:
Shay HTFC said:
I think most bikers within the vicinity will now be learning how to cover their numberplate with their foot whilst they ride past the cameras.
Why would they need to do that - I though the average speed cameras took forward-facing photos?However, my numberplates seem to have been stolen/fallen off officer
Shay HTFC said:
I think most bikers within the vicinity will now be learning how to cover their numberplate with their foot whilst they ride past the cameras.
I can also see some entrepreneur making a killing setting up a burger van just 100m inside the 'zone'. Spend 10 mins scoffing a burger = average speed of 15mph or something
Alernatively you could stop at the Cat & Fiddle for a couple of bevvies (non-alcohollc of course) and then continue. I can also see some entrepreneur making a killing setting up a burger van just 100m inside the 'zone'. Spend 10 mins scoffing a burger = average speed of 15mph or something
What would happen then if you blasted along 7/8 of the route, turned round and came back? Although I belive there will be more than just two cameras along the route.
I've come back to edit this as I have just had a thought. Average speed cameras work as per their namesake: taking an average speed over a set distance. Now these work well on roads where your average speed could be close or easily exceed the legal speed limit such as motorways and dual carriageways, but how will they work on something like the Cat & Fiddle road wher tight bends can really reduce your average speed?
Right so let's say that the camera is set to the national speed limit for your average A road, i.e. 60mph. You are still really going to have to tramp on to average 60 on the C&F. So to make them effective you would have to set them at a lower limit, but what? and who would set it? and would that be legally enforcable?
The only other way would be to place two cameras on the straight bits, but my recollection is that there aren't too many of those. But more importantly would they be far enough apart to give an accurate and reliable reading that would again resist legal challenge?
Any legal eagles out there that can shed light on this?
Edited by radlet6 on Wednesday 4th November 23:29
radlet6 said:
The only other way would be to place two cameras on the straight bits, but my recollection is that there aren't too many of those. But more importantly would they be far enough apart to give an accurate and reliable reading that would again resist legal challenge?
Turn left out of the pub car park & it's a long straight all the way down past the junction with the A54.Good point about how they can set an average speed for the rest of it though.
radlet6 said:
Right so let's say that the camera is set to the national speed limit for your average A road, i.e. 60mph. You are still really going to have to tramp on to average 60 on the C&F. So to make them effective you would have to set them at a lower limit, but what? and who would set it? and would that be legally enforcable?
The only other way would be to place two cameras on the straight bits, but my recollection is that there aren't too many of those. But more importantly would they be far enough apart to give an accurate and reliable reading that would again resist legal challenge?
Any legal eagles out there that can shed light on this?
The limit on C&F is 50 at the minute, but even so that is a very good point, you'd have to be pretty determined to manage over 50 mph average I'd have thought... These average speed checks just can't be practical for a road like this surely? I'd like to know where this local rag is getting their information.The only other way would be to place two cameras on the straight bits, but my recollection is that there aren't too many of those. But more importantly would they be far enough apart to give an accurate and reliable reading that would again resist legal challenge?
Any legal eagles out there that can shed light on this?
Edited by radlet6 on Wednesday 4th November 23:29
I'd assume that there wouldn't simply be one camera at one end and another camera at the other - which would make it simple to avoid averaging over 50mph.
My guess is that there will be 4-6 cameras and they'll be at the start & end of the faster sections (i.e. where you can easily top 100mph), and just before & after the inn.
You'd have to average 50mph between each of those sections to avoid a ticket.
My guess is that there will be 4-6 cameras and they'll be at the start & end of the faster sections (i.e. where you can easily top 100mph), and just before & after the inn.
You'd have to average 50mph between each of those sections to avoid a ticket.
If I was designing the system for plod, I would run this test..
You and friend with similar bike and leathers head out, and take a copy of each other's number plate.
Person 1 drives past first camera, stops, phones mate with what looks like same bike for all purposes, who then drives through the other camera some miles away.
Average speed appears to be 500 mph
You and friend with similar bike and leathers head out, and take a copy of each other's number plate.
Person 1 drives past first camera, stops, phones mate with what looks like same bike for all purposes, who then drives through the other camera some miles away.
Average speed appears to be 500 mph
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