cat and fiddle to get average speed camers
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djfirehawk said:
http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults...
Tuesday its official!!!!
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FFS!! Will deffo be up there next month before them cameras are operational!! How long till this spreads around the country Tuesday its official!!!!
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yep, sad day, but TBH its been coming for a loong time. Bikers and car drivers have been using this to test themselves and their machines for years, and it was inevitable that this would happen sooner or later. Next it will be snake pass(which also has a 50 limit on it), then woodhead pass
That would be brilliant.
Get a set of say 100 stickers made up numberplate sized.
Get 100 bikes / cars / trucks whatever, each get a sticker.
Convoy through the lot at 50 mph.
As far as I know, having the wrong plate is not an offence, just a producer. Getting 500+ mph 100 times in a row would certainly piss them off!
Get a set of say 100 stickers made up numberplate sized.
Get 100 bikes / cars / trucks whatever, each get a sticker.
Convoy through the lot at 50 mph.
As far as I know, having the wrong plate is not an offence, just a producer. Getting 500+ mph 100 times in a row would certainly piss them off!
Stedman said:
richw_82 said:
How awful for you all. Imagine, being asked to calm down and maybe ride like you're not qualifying for the TT on a public road. How dare they.
Don't paint everyone with the same brush. Graham E said:
Oh gay off.
After you...richw_82 said:
Stedman said:
richw_82 said:
How awful for you all. Imagine, being asked to calm down and maybe ride like you're not qualifying for the TT on a public road. How dare they.
Don't paint everyone with the same brush. 
Stedman said:
richw_82 said:
Stedman said:
richw_82 said:
How awful for you all. Imagine, being asked to calm down and maybe ride like you're not qualifying for the TT on a public road. How dare they.
Don't paint everyone with the same brush. dowahdiddyman said:
Averaging 50 on this road ain`t difficult but recording 130mph on that road, which stretch was that on.
At a guess the bit between the pub and the A54 junction. Limit should be NSL on that stretch! Instead you are to be punished for doing 60 because some choose to travel at 130!
In fairness, the MCN article states that they're having to do it because all other measures have had no effect on accidents/fatalities.
I don't agree with the cameras as I've had some great drives over that road, but wasn't it one of the most dangerous roads in the UK in some AA survey?
I'm sure changing the limit from 60 to 50 has had little effect on the speed people drive on that road...old biddies/sunday drivers still cruise over at about 40mph and people who enjoy driving probably go a little quicker than that?!
And doesn't the Woodhead already have some average speed cameras on it?
I don't agree with the cameras as I've had some great drives over that road, but wasn't it one of the most dangerous roads in the UK in some AA survey?
I'm sure changing the limit from 60 to 50 has had little effect on the speed people drive on that road...old biddies/sunday drivers still cruise over at about 40mph and people who enjoy driving probably go a little quicker than that?!
And doesn't the Woodhead already have some average speed cameras on it?
Allyc85 said:
djfirehawk said:
http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults...
Tuesday its official!!!!
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FFS!! Will deffo be up there next month before them cameras are operational!! How long till this spreads around the country Tuesday its official!!!!
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i don't like the idea of my travels being monitored at all. I want out this s
t hole of a country.richw_82 said:
Not everyone, just a few, mainly the ones moaning about it. Cameras are an annoyance, but is it really that much of a problem if you ride responsibly and within the posted limit?
You can breach the national speed limit with such impunity on superbike that you don't need to be riding like a tt to acheive a heady 60.1 mph on a well sighted road. Granted the cameras themselves are measuring an average but, as for being 'within the posted limit', I think that's practically irrelevant to a competent rider/driver. Sometimes you need to be very significantly under it, sometimes the right person can safely exceed it.
It's a difficult one. If this really is a last resort after scores of people have overestimated their ability then you can sort of see the justification, but speed itself is never the issue. It's innapropriate speed - and in an ideal world we'd educate people to ride/drive safer and have human police officers monitoring them, not R2D2 spying on them from on top of a pole.
Chris71 said:
You can breach the national speed limit with such impunity on superbike that you don't need to be riding like a tt to acheive a heady 60.1 mph on a well sighted road.
Granted the cameras themselves are measuring an average but, as for being 'within the posted limit', I think that's practically irrelevant to a competent rider/driver. Sometimes you need to be very significantly under it, sometimes the right person can safely exceed it.
It's a difficult one. If this really is a last resort after scores of people have overestimated their ability then you can sort of see the justification, but speed itself is never the issue. It's innapropriate speed - and in an ideal world we'd educate people to ride/drive safer and have human police officers monitoring them, not R2D2 spying on them from on top of a pole.
I wholly agree. Part of the problem comes from the people who seem to think the posted limit is the lowest speed you can safely negotiate a corner. t to acheive a heady 60.1 mph on a well sighted road. Granted the cameras themselves are measuring an average but, as for being 'within the posted limit', I think that's practically irrelevant to a competent rider/driver. Sometimes you need to be very significantly under it, sometimes the right person can safely exceed it.
It's a difficult one. If this really is a last resort after scores of people have overestimated their ability then you can sort of see the justification, but speed itself is never the issue. It's innapropriate speed - and in an ideal world we'd educate people to ride/drive safer and have human police officers monitoring them, not R2D2 spying on them from on top of a pole.
Don't get me wrong; I'm not trying to defend the luvvies, as I believe a blanket 50 limit on the Cat and Fiddle, and places like the Via Gellia near Cromford were a knee-jerk reaction and unnecessary. The purpose does seem to be purely to limit the pleasure afforded to bikers and sports car owners, and make it far easier for them to unintentionally break the law.
I would be interested to see if anyone has worked out their average speed across the Cat and Fiddle (when riding normally.. not going for it!), to see what it comes out as in relation to the average speed limit.
Regards,
Ric
dowahdiddyman said:
Averaging 50 on this road ain`t difficult but recording 130mph on that road, which stretch was that on.
130mph is extremely easy on a bike. 160mph+ is easy on a 1000 on the straight by the pub. A 600 will get 130+ on the down hill stretch heading in the the direction of Macclesfield, just after the corners after the pub.
GSP said:
dowahdiddyman said:
Averaging 50 on this road ain`t difficult but recording 130mph on that road, which stretch was that on.
130mph is extremely easy on a bike. 160mph+ is easy on a 1000 on the straight by the pub. A 600 will get 130+ on the down hill stretch heading in the the direction of Macclesfield, just after the corners after the pub.
GSP said:
dowahdiddyman said:
Averaging 50 on this road ain`t difficult but recording 130mph on that road, which stretch was that on.
130mph is extremely easy on a bike. 160mph+ is easy on a 1000 on the straight by the pub. A 600 will get 130+ on the down hill stretch heading in the the direction of Macclesfield, just after the corners after the pub.
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