Transfagarasan Road (contains TG spoilers)

Transfagarasan Road (contains TG spoilers)

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rufusruffcutt

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1,539 posts

206 months

Friday 30th October 2009
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Looks like the Transfagarasan road in Romania is about to make a guest appearance in the new series of Top Gear (starts Nov 15th). "The boys" are driving a Ferrari California an Aston DB9 Cabriolet and a Lambo Gallardo Spyder. But I suspect the road will be the real star in the film.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transf%C4%83g%C4%83r%...

And a Romanian website with on-location photos:

http://www.u-w-e.ro/TopGear/index.html

Road trip anyone? its a long way from blighty though! smile

JoePublic

220 posts

177 months

Friday 30th October 2009
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Didn't one of the Long Way Round/Down programs feature that too? I've seen a similarly spectacular road in Eastern Europe somewhere on TV.

rufusruffcutt

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206 months

Friday 30th October 2009
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JoePublic said:
Didn't one of the Long Way Round/Down programs feature that too? I've seen a similarly spectacular road in Eastern Europe somewhere on TV.
Not sure, Long Way Down went down the spine of Italy, but Long Way Round did do Prague to Kiev to Volgograd, so they would have been just to the north of Romania. It must be something else but similar in vein.

JoePublic

220 posts

177 months

Friday 30th October 2009
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rufusruffcutt said:
JoePublic said:
Didn't one of the Long Way Round/Down programs feature that too? I've seen a similarly spectacular road in Eastern Europe somewhere on TV.
Not sure, Long Way Down went down the spine of Italy, but Long Way Round did do Prague to Kiev to Volgograd, so they would have been just to the north of Romania. It must be something else but similar in vein.
Probably a similar (different) road. Might not have been the Long Way anywhere for that matter, but it was a travel program where someone was genuinely interested in roads and riding/driving them, so it certainly wasn't Wish You Were Here.

rufusruffcutt

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206 months

Thursday 12th November 2009
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A thread bump, as this film is due in this Sunday's episode (9pm not 8pm).

Olivera

7,154 posts

240 months

Thursday 12th November 2009
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Its amazing how a rural road in poorest Romania is better surfaced than almost any road in the UK.

rufusruffcutt

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206 months

Friday 13th November 2009
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Olivera said:
Its amazing how a rural road in poorest Romania is better surfaced than almost any road in the UK.
Yeah thats the result of a former communist dictatorship for you. Plus its closed by snow for 7 months of the year so it doesn't get a huge amount of traffic.

SimonV8ster

12,613 posts

229 months

Sunday 15th November 2009
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Looks like a great road thumbup Another one for the diary !!

Daxmatt

13 posts

177 months

Sunday 15th November 2009
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Road trip anyone?? its only a 1500mile and 24hour drive!!

Edited by Daxmatt on Sunday 15th November 23:36

dom180

1,180 posts

265 months

Monday 16th November 2009
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Great looking road - it's suggested on certain Romanian websites that the road was closed for TG to film the sequence so it looked particularly good with no traffic.

This YouTube video shows more of the road than TG managed in the few minutes we were shown on the show but possibly more representative....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RqzJ5HeqqY


Chris71

21,536 posts

243 months

Tuesday 17th November 2009
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dom180 said:
It's suggested on certain Romanian websites that the road was closed for TG to film the sequence so it looked particularly good with no traffic.
Next you're going to suggest that friendly government officials don't allow every group of Westerners with nice cars to play in the tunnels...

dom180

1,180 posts

265 months

Tuesday 17th November 2009
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Chris71 said:
dom180 said:
It's suggested on certain Romanian websites that the road was closed for TG to film the sequence so it looked particularly good with no traffic.
Next you're going to suggest that friendly government officials don't allow every group of Westerners with nice cars to play in the tunnels...
Sure but some might buy Top Gear's take on it being the Best driving road in the World as opposed to it being a major tourist attraction, clogged up with traffic most of the time!

crossle

1,520 posts

252 months

Wednesday 18th November 2009
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Expect to find a caravan lumbering along...

(See centre of this picture!)



And yes, the road was closed for 2 days, to allow TG to play...

http://www.romaniantimes.at/news/Sports/2009-09-24...

Chris71

21,536 posts

243 months

Wednesday 18th November 2009
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dom180 said:
Chris71 said:
dom180 said:
It's suggested on certain Romanian websites that the road was closed for TG to film the sequence so it looked particularly good with no traffic.
Next you're going to suggest that friendly government officials don't allow every group of Westerners with nice cars to play in the tunnels...
Sure but some might buy Top Gear's take on it being the Best driving road in the World as opposed to it being a major tourist attraction, clogged up with traffic most of the time!
Fair point. smile

That said, at 6 O'clock in the morning... Which isn't too big an ask if you've driven 1,500 miles to get there.

dom180

1,180 posts

265 months

Wednesday 18th November 2009
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Chris71 said:
dom180 said:
Chris71 said:
dom180 said:
It's suggested on certain Romanian websites that the road was closed for TG to film the sequence so it looked particularly good with no traffic.
Next you're going to suggest that friendly government officials don't allow every group of Westerners with nice cars to play in the tunnels...
Sure but some might buy Top Gear's take on it being the Best driving road in the World as opposed to it being a major tourist attraction, clogged up with traffic most of the time!
Fair point. smile

That said, at 6 O'clock in the morning... Which isn't too big an ask if you've driven 1,500 miles to get there.
I shall report back on my findings next year... smile

mireille

4 posts

174 months

Thursday 19th November 2009
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hi guys, am romanian, can maybe give a few bits of info

- the road is well paved (for the most of it), it's true that it's only got 3 months a year of trafic (that's for how long it stays open), but the weather conditions in the winter are just as big of an enemy (high altitude); it is surprising that it holds so well, because as far as I know it hasn’t been redone since 20 years ago (I may be wrong);
- for the time it's open it's not too busy, except the week-ends when most bucharestians aim for the cabana at the top (therefore only half of the road is busy - the one towards Bucharest; the more interesting half, the one in your pictures, is towards Sibiu);
- not likely for caravans and horse and carts to take it, I reckon no horse could make it on those slants, not really any villages on the way either, it's pretty much tourist trafic only; that said - anything's possible at least once!
- except for tiny caban (Balea Lac) at the very top (limited beds) not really any other accomodation option on the way, so aim to make it in a day;
- you’ll enjoy it, especially on motor bike I heard smile

- the dictator who ordered building it was a bit of a megalomaniac (in a sad, sad way...) - see the monstruous people's palace...
- you will never get in those tunnels, i'll bet any of you smile

other useful tips for driving in romania:
- very few kms of motorway, hence most of the roads go through villages (not necessarily gipsy either) so mind the kids, pets etc.;
- roads are slow (because of the above and trafic), but by now generally quite good – trust me Top Gear aimed for a bit of a drama;
- other cars in trafic are more dangerous than horse and carts - romanians are quite agressive, ill-mannered drivers (outside the cars they are ok though, especially in pubs);
- no drinking allowed at all, no speeding (policemen can get quite anal if they catch you doing it; you will find it frustrating how they're always around when you're in a hurry, never when you have to deal with a bad driver pushing up your bum);

And we have a saying: don't speak of rope in the house of the hanged man; we don't like jokes about communism, painfull memories... we even prefer "the most corrupt country in europe" to that smile) poorest, whatever you want smile

sorry I jumped in, was curious of reactions to that show and stumbled across your forum, thought I’d say hello smile
mirela

SimonV8ster

12,613 posts

229 months

Friday 20th November 2009
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Hi Mirela and welcome to the forum thumbup

Thanks for all the useful information on your country and roads. Are there many places to stay and easy to find in that area ?

mireille

4 posts

174 months

Friday 20th November 2009
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smile hello!

places to stay:

- in Curtea de Arges (the southern end of the road) – small (boring) town, likely to find accomodation, try looking in advance if you want something really nice, otherwise for sure they’ll have a spare room at the town’s hotel (probably around 60-70 pounds a night) – not the fanciest, but handy solution: http://www.posada.ro/hotel_posada.htm
- probably there are some pensions around Curtea de Arges as well, it’s not the most developed area, I personally try to avoid them because I prefer staying in Sibiu – more, nicer options;

- in Sibiu (at the northen end) – quite lovely town (actually probably the nicest in Romania), loads of pensions & hotels, worth looking a few up beforehand as the nicest are always tucked away smile Worth staying in the town center too. Look up cultural activities -

ideas for pensions
http://www.casaluxemburg.ro/accommodation-sibiu-ga...
http://carta.ro/cazare-sibiu/casa-veche/?f=2
http://www.pensiunesibiu.ro/index.htm
http://www.la-maison-francaise.ro/component/option...
hotels
http://www.ramadasibiu.ro/

- in between – unlikely, except for Cabana Balea Lac – call in advance, not sure about the conditions: http://www.cabanabalealac.ro/Home.11.0.html

Preferably to look up the places you want to stay in in advance, saves you having to compromise. Search pensiune/ pensiuni, pension/s, cazare, accomodation, hotel, hostel, + the name of the town or area; most websites have pages in English;

Depending on how you plan to get here you’ll have different routes, so can’t really say more. I’ve got a few places in my favourites that I would recommend, they’re spread across the country. If you’re interested... we generally prefer staying at pensions:

- http://www.pensiunea-septembrie.ro/camere.html - on the Danube, next to the Serbian border, pretty landscape;
- http://www.casatisaru.ro/ - near Buzau, won some architecture prize, difficult to book, very popular; great for city escape;
- http://www.vila-dalia.ro/ - if the previous one is booked and you still want to be in the area...
- http://www.larix.com.ro/content/ro/index.php - close to Cluj, again interesting architecture – hope they finish that indoors pool sometime!
- http://www.roturism.com/cazare/pensiunea-unglerus-... - around the fortiffied churches (Sighisoara, Biertan, close to Prince Charles house in Lancram I believe it is), they do bike rentals – quite good bikes, saves you carrying it;
- http://www.dracul.ro/ - for horseriding and if you fancy something called Dracula’s Inn – nothing to do with it of course smile
- http://www.pecailarasnov.ro/contact.htm - more horseriding, close to Bran Castle
- http://www.gainusademunte.ro/ - easy to get to from Bucharest, very comfortable
- http://aldomas.ro/?a=kezdo&lng=3 - for really simple, beautiful life smile and if you let them know on time and the weather is good they'll take you paragliding in tandem!

Am sure there are others, despite a lot of really ugly ones as well.
handy website: http://www.roturism.com/

hope I’ve been of help,
mirela


Edited by mireille on Friday 20th November 14:56


Edited by mireille on Friday 20th November 14:58

mireille

4 posts

174 months

Friday 20th November 2009
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gosh! will stop now... get a guide! it's the "we believed you had oxen on the streets and were throwing with stones at gypsies" complex...


Edited by mireille on Friday 20th November 15:06

SimonV8ster

12,613 posts

229 months

Saturday 21st November 2009
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Thanks very much for all the information - i'm sure a lot of people will find it very useful !!