Bastard M6. i hate this feckin road

Bastard M6. i hate this feckin road

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The Highway Man

6,021 posts

179 months

Friday 20th November 2009
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7mike said:
It's not all bad, you just need to alter your commute a bit driving

This is the view from my office window everyday, and I get paid for it! wink

Nigel Worc's

8,121 posts

189 months

Friday 20th November 2009
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The Highway Man said:
If you didn't all crash into one another, we wouldn't have to close lanes to sort your mess out! wink
You a hato then ?

getmecoat

The Highway Man

6,021 posts

179 months

Friday 20th November 2009
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What gave you that idea then? biggrin

Nigel Worc's

8,121 posts

189 months

Saturday 21st November 2009
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The Highway Man said:
What gave you that idea then? biggrin
Just joshing with you, but today probably isn't the best day to do that for someone in your area.

The Highway Man

6,021 posts

179 months

Saturday 21st November 2009
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It's been a really sad day, I only live 5 miles from the bridge that collapsed and had driven over it many times. Even worse was that before I became a HATO, I worked in a civilian role at the police station so I knew a lot of the lads so it's come as a big shock! frown

An Oasis

123 posts

189 months

Saturday 21st November 2009
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MikeOGO said:
I traversed this streak of S***e between Junc 19 to junc 6 for 8 years daily,it was enough to make me want to retire!
And the Coneheads Traffic Officers? Waste of space,cause more disruption than we do!ragecensored
No one is allowed to mention the M6, M1 or M25 the bane of my life. Why people can't see beyond themselves getting from A2B 2 seconds faster or when they cause a TRA hours longer is beyond me. Time to get to central London and back 10-11 hours, you actually feel grateful if it's 9 hours.

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 23rd November 2009
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andygo said:
My wife has to commute to Oxford from Southport about once a week.

She is most frequently delayed by accidents near J19, often resulting in her taking detours to miss them. A 3hr trip regularly takes 5 hours nowadays.

As derestrictor said, most of the problems are caused by the motorway wombles who close off lanes for the most trivial of reasons. They ought to be retrained on the facts of life as a commuter. Or shot. Probably both, thinking about it. Health and safety my bottom!
That is funny smile in the same quote as you mention complete cocks having unnecessary accidents/shunts,losing loads etc you blame the people employed to clear after them for the delay smile

Ps i hate the M6 it is full of complete loons way too busy, maybe it should be freight only and cars find an alternative route smile

mmm-five

11,246 posts

285 months

Monday 23rd November 2009
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andygo said:
My wife has to commute to Oxford from Southport about once a week.

She is most frequently delayed by accidents near J19, often resulting in her taking detours to miss them. A 3hr trip regularly takes 5 hours nowadays.

As derestrictor said, most of the problems are caused by the motorway wombles who close off lanes for the most trivial of reasons. They ought to be retrained on the facts of life as a commuter. Or shot. Probably both, thinking about it. Health and safety my bottom!
I do Liverpool to Basingstoke, on a Monday, at peak time, every week. It usually takes 3.5 hours door to door to do the 220 miles, using the M6, M40, A34/A404, M4, A33.

Only twice have I had a significant delay, and that was due to two accidents on the A34, one on the M40 and then being so late from those that all the roadworks were up & running on the M6, which meant it took 6 hours to get home - although I did turn off before Birmingham to use a cross-country route instead as I thought I might as well have some fun.

The Highway Man

6,021 posts

179 months

Monday 23rd November 2009
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andygo said:
My wife has to commute to Oxford from Southport about once a week.

She is most frequently delayed by accidents near J19, often resulting in her taking detours to miss them. A 3hr trip regularly takes 5 hours nowadays.

As derestrictor said, most of the problems are caused by the motorway wombles who close off lanes for the most trivial of reasons. They ought to be retrained on the facts of life as a commuter. Or shot. Probably both, thinking about it. Health and safety my bottom!
Why don't you see if you can wangle a ride out with one of our patrols so you can see that lane closures aren't done without a specific reason. I see you went to the same charm school as Jeremy Clarkson! wink

Nigel Worc's

8,121 posts

189 months

Monday 23rd November 2009
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Why do people have as issue with HATO's ?

They cannot fine you for anything, have never helped me, but never hindered me yet, always smile and speak at service stations (same as plod).

On the only time I've broken down on a motorway in recent years one didn't appear, but I'd have been grateful if they had.

The matrix signs seem much more truthful since the HA has taken over from the police.

Only issue I ever have with the HA is setting the variable limits on the M42, on that one stretch of road they seem to be tts.

clarkey318is

2,220 posts

175 months

Tuesday 24th November 2009
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I like policemen and HATOs, I'd far rather pay a decent bloke's wage for a year than put up a speed camera. The fact that real people actually have social skills and can police something other than just excessive speed (sometimes not even dangerous) makes them far more suitable for road policing.
Also, I don't understand why new laws on driving need to keep being brought out. We already have one that covers everything. Dangerous Driving. If you can drive well while on the phone then I don't see why it should be illegal. I know for a fact that I can concentrate more on driving while on the phone as opposed to the time I spilt burning hot coffee on my crotch, but one is illegal and one isn't. What it boils down to is if you're driving like a twunt, a policeman can pull you over, a camera offers no discretion and cannot detect dangerous driving.
I rest my case.

derestrictor

18,764 posts

262 months

Saturday 28th November 2009
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Left The Green Man, nr Silverstone @ 2230hrs last nght, destination, Dibnahville.

What time did I begin to dribble upon goosefeather?

Just after 0300hrs today.

Why?

Totalitarianism, nothing less.

The road network in Albion is a catastrophic shambles; random down-to-one-laners all the way; shares in cone manufacturers through the roof; as I said to a couple of PHers throughout the day, 'tis a UK based, automotive conspiracy to warm the cockles of any student of Halliburton...

heebeegeetee

28,776 posts

249 months

Saturday 28th November 2009
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derestrictor said:
Left The Green Man, nr Silverstone @ 2230hrs last nght, destination, Dibnahville.

What time did I begin to dribble upon goosefeather?

Just after 0300hrs today.

Why?

Totalitarianism, nothing less.

The road network in Albion is a catastrophic shambles; random down-to-one-laners all the way; shares in cone manufacturers through the roof; as I said to a couple of PHers throughout the day, 'tis a UK based, automotive conspiracy to warm the cockles of any student of Halliburton...
I spent an hour in stafford last night, in an artic. M6 closed at j13 for roadworks, so all traffic, which at 2300 hrs approx is 90% articulated lorries, trickled straight through the middle of Stafford at an average speed of 1mph, I reckon.

The diversion signs were woeful, so once the queue had been thoroughly split up by the traffic lights everyone is left to circulate the endless roundabouts trying to pick the route up again.

I did see the tiny little diamond symbol which is what you're supposed to follow, (thru Eccleshall) but i just thought "i'm not going down there in this" and managed to pick the route up again through more luck than judgement, without going via Stone.

On the return leg i saw the m'way was still closed at 0530 and the queue was enormous.

I wouldn't want to live in Stafford at the mo. smile

Nigel Worc's

8,121 posts

189 months

Saturday 28th November 2009
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I flew back from krautland to that poxy airport at stansted on wednesday, so ended up on the M6 to get home.

Its in a woeful state at the moment, roadworks, speed limits, more roadworks, more speed limits, M42 shut, more roadworks and speed limts through brum, onto the M5 .... guess what ?

yep, more roadworks and speed limits.

I saw the signs saying the M6 was shut at stafford.

All through that area they have miles and miles and miles of cones, limits, scameras, some are night time works only etc, it doesn't matter what time of the day or night you pass, never any sign of anyone working.

Its a 50 mph motorway limit by stealth !

derestrictor

18,764 posts

262 months

Sunday 29th November 2009
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The UK population is having the st kicked out of it - psychologically speaking - by degree, until it is so dumbed down, neutred and inert that it will not even blink as its neighbours are routinely removed in the night by black bag ops and Satanco's latest 2-for-1 deal is no longer Fairy Liquid but this wonderful new dish, Soylent Green...

Btw, in the interim I fully agree we are being fed a de facto 50 mph m-way limit via conic facism.

We must abandon the pernicious evil of the Health & Safety Trojan Horse before the mother ship lands and the whole of western 'democracy' submits to a mass 'District 19' and Beelzebub Bliar fulfills his final, hellish ascent to primacy.

Wolfie DeR.

7mike

3,010 posts

194 months

Sunday 29th November 2009
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Nigel Worc's said:
I flew back from krautland to that poxy airport at stansted on wednesday, so ended up on the M6 to get home.

Its in a woeful state at the moment, roadworks, speed limits, more roadworks, more speed limits, M42 shut, more roadworks and speed limts through brum, onto the M5 .... guess what ?

yep, more roadworks and speed limits.

I saw the signs saying the M6 was shut at stafford.

All through that area they have miles and miles and miles of cones, limits, scameras, some are night time works only etc, it doesn't matter what time of the day or night you pass, never any sign of anyone working.

Its a 50 mph motorway limit by stealth !
I may be wrong here (usually am!) but I think it may be to do with what our wonderful government call 'fiscal stimulus'. The HA have been told to rush through their next three years worth of projects in order to provide work for their contractors & hence stimulate the economy! Just not very stimulating for the rest stuck in the aftermath, I wonder how much additional loss is being suffered by already struggling businesses.

Nigel Worc's

8,121 posts

189 months

Sunday 29th November 2009
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7mike said:
Nigel Worc's said:
I flew back from krautland to that poxy airport at stansted on wednesday, so ended up on the M6 to get home.

Its in a woeful state at the moment, roadworks, speed limits, more roadworks, more speed limits, M42 shut, more roadworks and speed limts through brum, onto the M5 .... guess what ?

yep, more roadworks and speed limits.

I saw the signs saying the M6 was shut at stafford.

All through that area they have miles and miles and miles of cones, limits, scameras, some are night time works only etc, it doesn't matter what time of the day or night you pass, never any sign of anyone working.

Its a 50 mph motorway limit by stealth !
I may be wrong here (usually am!) but I think it may be to do with what our wonderful government call 'fiscal stimulus'. The HA have been told to rush through their next three years worth of projects in order to provide work for their contractors & hence stimulate the economy! Just not very stimulating for the rest stuck in the aftermath, I wonder how much additional loss is being suffered by already struggling businesses.
You may be correct Mike, but all they seem to have done is set out the next three years worth of cones and speed limits

King Herald

23,501 posts

217 months

Sunday 29th November 2009
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Nigel Worc's said:
I flew back from krautland to that poxy airport at stansted on wednesday, so ended up on the M6 to get home.

Its in a woeful state at the moment, roadworks, speed limits, more roadworks, more speed limits, M42 shut, more roadworks and speed limts through brum, onto the M5 .... guess what ?

yep, more roadworks and speed limits.

I saw the signs saying the M6 was shut at stafford.
It's a weekly occurrence, you can almost set your clocks by it!

"Ooh, M6 totally blocked again, has a week really gone by already?"

There is some scheme about widening the lanes, turning the hard shoulder into a fourth lane, but as mentioned, nobody ever seems to be doing anything, no matter what time of day or night you drive down there!

heebeegeetee

28,776 posts

249 months

Monday 30th November 2009
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King Herald said:
Nigel Worc's said:
I flew back from krautland to that poxy airport at stansted on wednesday, so ended up on the M6 to get home.

Its in a woeful state at the moment, roadworks, speed limits, more roadworks, more speed limits, M42 shut, more roadworks and speed limts through brum, onto the M5 .... guess what ?

yep, more roadworks and speed limits.

I saw the signs saying the M6 was shut at stafford.
It's a weekly occurrence, you can almost set your clocks by it!

"Ooh, M6 totally blocked again, has a week really gone by already?"

There is some scheme about widening the lanes, turning the hard shoulder into a fourth lane, but as mentioned, nobody ever seems to be doing anything, no matter what time of day or night you drive down there!
In fairness, there is a lot of work going on at night.

But i think Mike is right, i too have thought that this all must be going on to prop the construction industry up.

These schemes do indeed last for years and must cause abject misery to those who live in the areas, but i'm afraid it is the cost of the ever-increasing numbers of cars.

Even as a committed car enthusiast myself, i simply cannot believe that there isn't a better way of doing things than what is going on in this country re car use, esp when you factor in stuff like sunday trading, etc.

King Herald

23,501 posts

217 months

Monday 30th November 2009
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heebeegeetee said:
These schemes do indeed last for years and must cause abject misery to those who live in the areas, but i'm afraid it is the cost of the ever-increasing numbers of cars.

Even as a committed car enthusiast myself, i simply cannot believe that there isn't a better way of doing things than what is going on in this country re car use, esp when you factor in stuff like sunday trading, etc.
People all want their cars, but when they try to cut new motorways across the green fields everybody is up in arms against it.

Thing is, there are only a certain number of car drivers in the UK, and they can only drive one car at a time, so at some stage the roads must reach saturation point, and not get any worse. Even if the number of registered cars increases each year, are they all being driven at the same time?