Stelvio to Nurburgring

Stelvio to Nurburgring

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j20but

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56 posts

176 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2010
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Any idea's on route's from Stelvio to Nurburgring? good driving road's, unrestricted Autobahn's and stunning scenery?

PGM

2,168 posts

249 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2010
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The road from the bottom of Stelvio into Austria to Germany is very good, thereafter blast through luxemburg and into derestricted Germany.

dcb

5,834 posts

265 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2010
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j20but said:
Any idea's on route's from Stelvio to Nurburgring? good driving road's, unrestricted Autobahn's and stunning scenery?
http://www.alpineroads.com/

Anywhere from CH to Innsbruck to Salzburg has
stunning scenery.

West to East, the A5 is mostly unrestricted,
the A81 is mostly unrestricted to Stuttgart,
the A95 is mostly unrestricted,
the A7 is mostly unrestricted,
the A95 is mostly unrestricted,
the A93 & A8 have some unrestricted sections,
the A3 is mostly unrestricted.

There are plenty of unrestricted roads to choose from,
in other words.

Bavaria is home to BMW, Audi and Alpina.
Baden-Wurttemburg is home to Mercedes Benz and Porsche.
Southern Germany is keen drivers heaven.

The food, the beer and the women are good to excellent, too ;->





PGM

2,168 posts

249 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2010
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Yes, I always use alpineroads.com when touring, good shout.

PGM

2,168 posts

249 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2010
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Some pics as promised:

N85 Route Napolean




Reims GP circuit:

PGM

2,168 posts

249 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2010
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More:

Milau viaduct





Stelvio, Austrian side (brake cooling stop!):






G Man

4,053 posts

260 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2010
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I would go Nurburging to Baden Baden in the Black Forest pick up the B500 (Heaven ) for 80 miles head to Andermatt from there you can head thru the Alps to Davos to the Stelvio
I have mapped all the Alpine passes in google http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&am...

Sorry you need to reverse the route

Edited by G Man on Tuesday 2nd February 15:30

dcb

5,834 posts

265 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2010
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PGM said:
Stelvio, Austrian side (brake cooling stop!):
Crikey - these 911s are stranger cars than I thought ;->

For the record, the East side of the Stelvio Pass is in Italy,
and I can also confirm the West side is too.

The Umbrial pass is nearby but that goes into North into CH.

The nearest bit of Austria is 30 km away from the Stelvio
as the crow flies. Had one had an extensive lunch before
taking these pictures, perhaps ?

The Stelvio itself is not too exciting - little French
shopping trolleys can do it easily, judging by the contents
of the car park and IIRC there's even a bus stop at the top.

Mind you, no vehicles over 10 meters long, which is a shame, since
I was thinking of getting the Volvo family estate out and dragging my
boat and trailer over it ;->

Now that would be a challenge.

PGM

2,168 posts

249 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2010
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Sorry, should have made myself a bit clearer, I meant coming down towards Austria to show which direction I was going in! The car does feel like a time machine though the amount of borders you can cross in a day biggrin

j20but

Original Poster:

56 posts

176 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2010
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Hi PGM, which road is the Reims pitstop on, is it the D9? your pictures look amazing!, looks like you covered my planned route (great minds), I'm planning -

REIMS - GRENOBLE - ROUTE NAPOLEAN - MONACO - DETOUR TO MILLAU - BACK TO MONACO - PORTOFINO - MODENA (FERRARI MUSEUM) - STELVIO - NURBURGRING - HOME.

Looks like you had fun in the porsche and RB5, who enjoyed it the most and why?

P.S. Can totally relate to the cooling brake stop

PGM

2,168 posts

249 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2010
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Link for the circuit which is just off the E46 N31 - type in Circuit de Reims-Gneux to google maps if it doesnt work, streetview is available here too. Well worth going into Reims itself to see the cathedral and do a champagne caves (cellar) tour too. F1 motel Reims Tinqueux is a couple of miles away from the circuit.

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&a...

My wife and I love touring and we always go to Nurburgring on the way home (incase we smash the car there!). The kids love it all too seeing different places. We tend to do big mileages for a day every now and then and stay for a few days in each place so we are not travelling all the time.

Both cars were excellent in their own way and we loved driving both of them, the scooby was obviously easier to pack and more comfortable for the kids (we went all the way to Corsica that year)and better on narrow wet poorly surfaced roads but the Porsche was the better touring car as it could cruise at very high speed whereas it felt like we were caning the scooby a fair bit. Obviously Germany meant we stretched the Porsche way beyond the scoob's top speed, my wife achieving 169mph as a maximum.

The Porsche had a better fuel range, returning 28mpg on a useable 65 litre tank whereas scooby returned around 21 on a useable 50l and the Porsche was achieving this at a much higher speed.

Nurburgring was brilliant in both, my wife had more confidence with the Impreza but I was a good minute faster in my laps in the Porsche. To be fair to the scooby the Porsche has an extra 100bhp with no 4wd transmission loss.

We still have the Porsche but miss the Impreza terribly, my wife has never forgiven me for selling her baby! We are getting another one soon though.
Sorry, probably bored you to death!

dom180

1,180 posts

264 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2010
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dcb said:
The Stelvio itself is not too exciting - little French
shopping trolleys can do it easily, judging by the contents
of the car park and IIRC there's even a bus stop at the top.
Buy a sportscar, drive harder, brake later, learn to overtake. HTH

smile


j20but

Original Poster:

56 posts

176 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2010
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To the contrary! very interesting thanks for the reply, what was your best lap time? I hope to find my scoobs top speed in Germany, done a true (gps verified) 149mph with a bit left, hoping for 160mph???? but as your aware scoobs aren't built for top end.

PGM

2,168 posts

249 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2010
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You probably would achieve 160 with a long bit of road, we certainly got it to just short of that fully loaded. My record in the 996 was 182 with a bit more left in it.

My lap times in the Porsche were just under 9 minutes and the scooby just under 10. This was due to needing to come home in the car, we could have gone faster if we wanted to. My wife was only slightly slower at around 10 1/2 mins which she achieved in both cars!

Edited by PGM on Wednesday 3rd February 08:44

j20but

Original Poster:

56 posts

176 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2010
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Not sure but i reckon there really good times, well done.