Best time of year for Stelvio
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skodamanpat said:
RPM1200 said:
A small group of supercar drivers are doing the Stelvio as part of a 5 day Europe tour end of May, if anyone wants to join. Just cost of 4 hotels, fuel and tolls, no admin fee. We're leaving 24th May if anyone interested in coming too. Should be fun.
Blimey I was hoping for a mild spring and thaw by the 20th of June, you guys are hoping for a miracle, good luck!Edited by G Man on Tuesday 27th April 15:37
We are a group of 6 TVRS and one Porsche heading off to the Alps next month so I am following threads on here with great interest. Departing Sun 13th, the route will take in the following;
Day 1: London-Dusseldorf; overnight motorrail train down to Munich
Day 2: Munich-Chur and then Oberalp, Furka, Grimsell Pass and potentially Passo Della Novena; staying overnight in Andermatt (500km)
Day 3: Andermatt, Gotthard, San Bernadino, Julier passes en route to Bormio. (300km)
Day 4: Bormio - Gavia, Stelvio, Offen, Fluela pass and return to Bormio (250km)
Day 5: Bormio - east via Mendel Pass; day in Dolomites returning to Innsbruck. Overnight motorrail back to Dusselldorf. (500km)
Day 6: Dusseldorf - London.
All in all about 1,500 kms, of which 4-500 is getting from Munich to the Alps and returning to Innsbruck. So about 1k in the mountains/Dolomites.
I would be interested, given current pass conditions, on the views of the PH experts as to whether we are pushing our luck on any of these in terms of height/likelihood of passes being clear. This is 5 weeks away so we have some time, but equally, I don't want to be on a trip which sees us in pouring rain constantly and with cloud cover so low that we won't see a jot. Clearly very dependant on weather at the time, but history is often a good bellweather.
Day 1: London-Dusseldorf; overnight motorrail train down to Munich
Day 2: Munich-Chur and then Oberalp, Furka, Grimsell Pass and potentially Passo Della Novena; staying overnight in Andermatt (500km)
Day 3: Andermatt, Gotthard, San Bernadino, Julier passes en route to Bormio. (300km)
Day 4: Bormio - Gavia, Stelvio, Offen, Fluela pass and return to Bormio (250km)
Day 5: Bormio - east via Mendel Pass; day in Dolomites returning to Innsbruck. Overnight motorrail back to Dusselldorf. (500km)
Day 6: Dusseldorf - London.
All in all about 1,500 kms, of which 4-500 is getting from Munich to the Alps and returning to Innsbruck. So about 1k in the mountains/Dolomites.
I would be interested, given current pass conditions, on the views of the PH experts as to whether we are pushing our luck on any of these in terms of height/likelihood of passes being clear. This is 5 weeks away so we have some time, but equally, I don't want to be on a trip which sees us in pouring rain constantly and with cloud cover so low that we won't see a jot. Clearly very dependant on weather at the time, but history is often a good bellweather.
TBH it is pot luck, could be open when you set off and under ' of snow when you get there.
http://www.alpineroads.com/passes.php
gives you some official pass open dates but some will be open sooner if not cleared as frequently.
This site will give you more current open and closed details:
http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c...fficial&rurl=translate.google.co.uk&usg=ALkJrhhlfiIL575LJ_fNY0wBEdaqxHi_5Q
and here
http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c...
http://www.alpineroads.com/passes.php
gives you some official pass open dates but some will be open sooner if not cleared as frequently.
This site will give you more current open and closed details:
http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c...fficial&rurl=translate.google.co.uk&usg=ALkJrhhlfiIL575LJ_fNY0wBEdaqxHi_5Q
and here
http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c...
Edited by skodamanpat on Monday 10th May 18:20
Edited by skodamanpat on Monday 10th May 18:25
Photos from Stelvio today:-
http://www.webcams.travel/webcam/1200420839-Weathe...
http://www.webcams.travel/webcam/1200420839-Weathe...
Edited by snapper8v on Monday 10th May 19:15
Mustang Baz said:
Day 1: London-Dusseldorf; overnight motorrail train down to Munich
...
Day 5: Overnight motorrail back to Dusselldorf. (500km)
Creative - I'd have thought any sports car owner...
Day 5: Overnight motorrail back to Dusselldorf. (500km)
would have been keen on a Vmax run on the autobahns,
but you appear to be railing that bit and doing the
dull trudge across Belgium instead.
Each to their own, I suppose.
Mustang Baz said:
whether we are pushing our luck on any of these in terms of height/likelihood of passes being clear.
You are pushing your luck at any time of year with thereally high passes.
I've seen snow on the Stelvio in July.
Best have a plan B - not including the Brenner obviously.
I did it in combination with the Furka Pass a few years ago - on midsummer's day.
A sunrise blast up the Furka was met with 8 foot snow banks on the side of the road; more surprising was rounding a corner at enthusiatic pace to just miss a bear ambling across the road
As far as the Stelvio is concerned, I (in an MX-5) trounced fellow PH-er MikeN (Noble) on the ascent on the northern side - the GTO-3R did not have the lock (or ground clearance)to make swift progress around the tight hairpins and steep apexes (apices?) - tables were turned on the descent in to Italy, where the wider flowing bends were Noble territory.
Keep a camera at hand (I wish I did) as you may scoop a disguised prototype - even in the height of the tourist season it seems Stelvio forms part of a test route for some manufacturers (gives you confidence that if cars are tested on roads like this, people like us will enjoy driving them).
A sunrise blast up the Furka was met with 8 foot snow banks on the side of the road; more surprising was rounding a corner at enthusiatic pace to just miss a bear ambling across the road
As far as the Stelvio is concerned, I (in an MX-5) trounced fellow PH-er MikeN (Noble) on the ascent on the northern side - the GTO-3R did not have the lock (or ground clearance)to make swift progress around the tight hairpins and steep apexes (apices?) - tables were turned on the descent in to Italy, where the wider flowing bends were Noble territory.
Keep a camera at hand (I wish I did) as you may scoop a disguised prototype - even in the height of the tourist season it seems Stelvio forms part of a test route for some manufacturers (gives you confidence that if cars are tested on roads like this, people like us will enjoy driving them).
dcb said:
Mustang Baz said:
Day 1: London-Dusseldorf; overnight motorrail train down to Munich
...
Day 5: Overnight motorrail back to Dusselldorf. (500km)
Creative - I'd have thought any sports car owner would have been keen on a Vmax run on the autobahns,...
Day 5: Overnight motorrail back to Dusselldorf. (500km)
but you appear to be railing that bit and doing the dull trudge across Belgium instead.
Each to their own, I suppose.
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