Clio 197

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FlashBastd

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291 posts

190 months

Thursday 15th September 2011
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Thanks, 25min was the longest I did but that was only due to track closure, would probably have stayed out longer. The car didn't seem to have any ill effects from prolonged abuse!

Camera is nice but I need to play with the sound. Annoyingly the footage where you can see my car was taken with a camera that cost less than £5, the Contour was a lot more, it is a nice pic and you do get the GPS but you can get more data with a smartphone; though the picture won't be quite as good.

Edited by FlashBastd on Thursday 15th September 12:51

FlashBastd

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291 posts

190 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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Couple of things I forgot to mention previously, firstly one ill effect of the mileage seems to be a gearbox that while nice to use when driving gently, gets uncooperative when down changing and pressing on. A few solutions have been suggested, including replacing the gear lever cables, clutch slave cylinder and the gearbox. I have a spare 'box from a much lower mileage car so may fit that in the near future - of course if we are going to do that we might as well also replace the clutch and slave, which sounds like more expense.

On the subject of expense, my rattle finding mission on Saturday morning identified that I have a blow from one of my flexi pipes, which will necessitate removal of the manifold, dropping the subframe, etc. again. What was especially annoying is that the starter motor heat shield was slightly loose and I spent over an hour with my arms stretched up behind the engine fannying around removing and refitting this for it to make no difference whatsoever.

The bad news is that a new manifold is £750+VAT. I could get a custom manifold made for around £600+VAT but the benefit would be limited as the standard 4-2-1 is already pretty efficient. With this in mind I have bought another manifold with damaged flexis which I will get replaced before fitting to my car.

At the same time as changing the manifold we will swap the ARB back to standard, and may think about swapping the 'box, etc.

On the subject of the manifold the faults are interesting, someone more knowledgeable than me might understand the reasoning, but the faults both the cracking at the flange and the failed flexi both involve the middle two pipes. According to the garage the flange cracking appeared to relate to the middle pipes twisting rather than the up/down or back/forth motion of worn engine mounts. I think the two flexis sit next to each other so one would have thought the leverage against the flange would be the same. Odd in any case and the commonality of the fault is concerning. I know of at least one owner with a car outside of the warranty period who had a strong goodwill contribution from Renault, but his car had done far fewer miles than mine, and my servicing has been done by an independent garage rather than a franchised dealer.

FlashBastd

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291 posts

190 months

Wednesday 5th October 2011
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Ok, just got the car back from the garage, the car went in sounding pretty rough, for the following work;

  • Replace manifold with repaired item due to damaged flexi
  • Remove X85 Cup anti-roll bar and replace original
  • Replace gearbox with low mileage TL4024 (from low mileage later 197, longer 5-6 than that fitted to the early cars.
  • Replace clutch and slave with new standard parts
Damaged replacement manifold was repaired with some new Bosal flexi pipes, only one was obviously broken but we replaced the other as it has probably been strained by excess movement due to a lack of support from the broken one. I understand this was not as straightforward as it sounds.

Everything went relatively smoothly, until it came to getting the lambda out of the old manifold, as the threads came off, mind you it had been there for 93k miles so probably didn't want to come out. Replaced with a genuine Bosch courtesy of Andrew Page, delivered within a couple of hours and at half the cost of the same item from Renault.

Renewed the oil in the replacement gearbox with Fuchs Titan Sintofluid, at the time of fitting the flywheel was inspected and was in good shape.

The clutch wasn't worn to excess but the slave cylinder was knackered, a common thing with these cars, loads have been replaced under warranty at much much lower miles than mine.

Excellent service as usual from both F Cross Renault in Shorpe and Andrew Page in Doncaster.

Original manifold


Repaired flange




Broken flexi


Repaired manifold


Original clutch




New Clutch




Original slave cylinder


New slave cylinder


Going back to September this was the hub carrier that we replaced


This was the X85 Cup ARB that we have now replaced

cheddar

4,637 posts

174 months

Thursday 6th October 2011
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Another great post.

Inspired by this thread I'm gonna buy a 197.

stringsonfire

1 posts

133 months

Saturday 23rd March 2013
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Well, a little late to join the thread, but if anyone still here knows...

What's involved in switching the mirror to the Laguna 2 dimming one? They're fairly cheap as parts go, so I'd love to do it. Is there a standard connector already in the mirror to swap it? I'm sure it must need power, but as I see it all my current mirror has is a sensor, I believe for the auto wipers.

Thanks!

FlashBastd

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291 posts

190 months

Saturday 23rd March 2013
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Not much to it to be honest, run an ignition switched power and a ground cable, reuse your existing surround, think that was about it.

Need to be careful removing the old mirror, I broke my screen being ham fisted

C2james

4,685 posts

165 months

Saturday 23rd March 2013
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Nice car. I've recently bought myself an albi blue 06 197 which I love. Not too far off your mileage too.

deadmau5

3,197 posts

180 months

Saturday 23rd March 2013
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I actually bought a Laguna auto-dimmer yesterday for my Clio. £23 delivered.

FlashBastd

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291 posts

190 months

Sunday 24th March 2013
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These are great cars, I do miss mine from time to time, over a year now since I sold it.

My main issue was that things kept wearing out or breaking, and it was getting expensive to run.

shipstar

2 posts

108 months

Sunday 19th April 2015
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Did you order the Bosal 265-567? And just weld them in?

FlashBastd

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291 posts

190 months

Sunday 19th April 2015
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Hi, yes that's what we used, got to be careful at how close they sit.

melvster

6,841 posts

185 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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FlashBastd said:
Hi, yes that's what we used, got to be careful at how close they sit.
Do your bosal flexi's touch ? when i had mine welded in the guy said they are touching but should be ok.

FlashBastd

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291 posts

190 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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They did, slight vibration.
Car went some time ago (Focus, VX220T, F31 330dx since then) so not altogether sure how well they wore.