BMW E36 M3 Evo

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BullyB

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2,344 posts

247 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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just finished a very dirty day in the garage...



Removed the rest of the AC system
Wasn't sure what to do with the emissions control air pump, so ditched it too



out with the old and in with the new




Main issue was the fact that the new radiator didn't have fixings for the oil cooler - I had a new one to fit and ended up fixing it with cable ties! it is actually very secure.

The electric fan has been ditched as it is running very rough, I have therefore left the mechanical one on.
I plan to get the electric fan repaired or replaced and then ditch the mechanical one.

Tomorrow will be bleeding and testing.....

jbaddeley

829 posts

205 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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Straight on it after your trip. V impressive. Getting lighter all the time. Hopefully my new diff will compensate. Should be back this week and ready for fitting.

jbaddeley

829 posts

205 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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Straight on it after your trip. V impressive. Getting lighter all the time. Hopefully my new diff will compensate. Should be back this week and ready for fitting.

BullyB

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247 months

Thursday 30th April 2015
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Weight Loss:
Compressor = 6.5kg
Air Pump = 4kg
Condenser = 3kg
Total = 13.5kg

BullyB

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2,344 posts

247 months

Sunday 17th May 2015
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Finally booked some track days:
Donington Park, 5th June
Anglesea, 2nd July

BullyB

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247 months

Tuesday 9th June 2015
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Did Donington Park on the 5th, great day!
Car ran like a dream and all the cooling system worked as it should clap

Only took two photos so will have to wait and see what Javelin put up on their site



All tidy and no leaks...



200 miles completed on track!

BullyB

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247 months

Tuesday 9th June 2015
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The to do list:
- fit rear camber arms
- full alignment after lowering the front a little
- electric fan install

Went for a "budget" camber arm set as I read a couple of reviews on the forums. They look ok for me..


BullyB

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247 months

Thursday 18th June 2015
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a couple of pictures from Donington - these were the ones off the Javelin page as I didn't fancy purchasing any this time





Oh, fitted a spoiler now too - I think I have lost the OEM look now....





She is in to the garage next week to get some new diff mounting bushes, rear camber arms and a couple of oil leaks fixed.
The suspension will be reset and aligned - can't wait.


and a quick one of the dog chariot as I thought it looked good...


TroubledSoul

4,599 posts

194 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2015
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BullyB said:
Alright mate, hope all is well!

I have done this is stages over a few months so I will try to remember...

This is what I have used...

8mm fuel hose (about 2,5 meters)
8mm "Y" fittings http://www.jjcraceandrally.com/race/fuel-unions-fi...
a BMW E36 M3 Evo Fuel Pump (I got a 2nd hand one from eBay)
a BMW 318is E36 Fuel Sender unit - which I fitted the E36 M3 Evo pump to (again from eBay)
Hose Joiners - which I epoxy'd in to the fuel pump/sender units for the return hose http://www.jjcraceandrally.com/race/fuel-unions-fi...
8mm hose clamps


This is my original pump (from the drivers side). I drilled a hole and then glued the fitting in for the return hose.



This is the fuel pump and sender unit from a 318 that I fitted the Evo pump to

It looks like there already is a return hose fitting but that is just a blank.

So, this is the drivers side where the pump discharges in to the Y fitting along with the discharge from the other side

The return hose is connected to my glued in fitting.

This is the passenger side
Hi Bully, sorry to drag this up but I could do with a bit of help with this mod.

A guide I read said you need 12mm to 8mm joiners for the return pipes. Am I right in thinking that you just used 12mm joiners in the tops of the sender housings? Or am I wide of the mark here?

Also any special reason why you used a 318is sender unit on one side?

EDIT: Just gone back and double checked and it actually seems they used the blanked off pipe on the top of the unit which is 12mm, hence the 12->8mm joiners.

I also meant to ask you whether there's any piping on the bottom of those return inlets of if they just let the fuel drop straight through them, back into the tank?

Also interested in whether yours are always on or if you run a switch to turn the 2nd pump on manually?

Edited by TroubledSoul on Tuesday 23 June 12:38

BullyB

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2,344 posts

247 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2015
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TroubledSoul said:
BullyB said:
Alright mate, hope all is well!

I have done this is stages over a few months so I will try to remember...

This is what I have used...

8mm fuel hose (about 2,5 meters)
8mm "Y" fittings http://www.jjcraceandrally.com/race/fuel-unions-fi...
a BMW E36 M3 Evo Fuel Pump (I got a 2nd hand one from eBay)
a BMW 318is E36 Fuel Sender unit - which I fitted the E36 M3 Evo pump to (again from eBay)
Hose Joiners - which I epoxy'd in to the fuel pump/sender units for the return hose http://www.jjcraceandrally.com/race/fuel-unions-fi...
8mm hose clamps


This is my original pump (from the drivers side). I drilled a hole and then glued the fitting in for the return hose.



This is the fuel pump and sender unit from a 318 that I fitted the Evo pump to

It looks like there already is a return hose fitting but that is just a blank.

So, this is the drivers side where the pump discharges in to the Y fitting along with the discharge from the other side

The return hose is connected to my glued in fitting.

This is the passenger side
Hi Bully, sorry to drag this up but I could do with a bit of help with this mod.

A guide I read said you need 12mm to 8mm joiners for the return pipes. Am I right in thinking that you just used 12mm joiners in the tops of the sender housings? Or am I wide of the mark here?

Also any special reason why you used a 318is sender unit on one side?

EDIT: Just gone back and double checked and it actually seems they used the blanked off pipe on the top of the unit which is 12mm, hence the 12->8mm joiners.

I also meant to ask you whether there's any piping on the bottom of those return inlets of if they just let the fuel drop straight through them, back into the tank?

Also interested in whether yours are always on or if you run a switch to turn the 2nd pump on manually?

Edited by TroubledSoul on Tuesday 23 June 12:38
yer, I think the 12mm fittings were for the larger connections on the top of the units. I decided it would be better to epoxy the smaller fittings in.
I don't remember if I put pipe on the inside or just left it to drop/return from the fitting on the top. I adduce I just left it to drop.
There was a reason I used a 318 unit but for the life of me I can't remember. I think it just has to be from a non-M3. Possibly something to do with the size?

Sorry I can't be much more help, I will try to find the guide I used for you

TroubledSoul

4,599 posts

194 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2015
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No that's great, cheers.

What I read used another M3 sender but it had to be rotated to fit because of space constraints.

Perhaps the 318is unit negates the need for that? I take it you didn't have to dremel anything off the sender either?

BullyB

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2,344 posts

247 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2015
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I don't recall using a dremel.
The only think I do remember was getting an eye full of fuel when I cut the pipe between the pump and the engine - be careful.
It was all reasonably straight forward.

TroubledSoul

4,599 posts

194 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2015
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Ah good shout.

Final question on this (I hope!); how many stainless clips did you need to buy?

Oh and was there some sort of syphon from left to right in your tank? I haven't managed to find out yet if this was a US model thing or not but it's also listed in the guide I found.

Edited by TroubledSoul on Tuesday 23 June 16:53

BullyB

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2,344 posts

247 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2015
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yer, it used a syphon pipe but this is now not in use. The mod is working well and I only get fuel starvation once the fuel light now.
I purchased a few bags of random size clips but think I used about 6 or so

TroubledSoul

4,599 posts

194 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2015
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Spot on, cheers.

Did you remove the syphon pipe thingy or just leave it in place? I've got this pretty much sorted in my head now, so will gather up the bits and post it up on my thread when I get to it.

Cheers Bully thumbup

BullyB

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2,344 posts

247 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2015
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TroubledSoul said:
Spot on, cheers.

Did you remove the syphon pipe thingy or just leave it in place? I've got this pretty much sorted in my head now, so will gather up the bits and post it up on my thread when I get to it.

Cheers Bully thumbup
don't remember to be honest, think i pulled it out
good luck!

e46m3c

874 posts

155 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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BullyB said:
Thanks, I have been reading this:

http://gticlub.synology.me/forumpics/forsale/pumpk...

Adding a second pump looks to be the most common solution.
Not seen much on swirl pots however...?
Could you update this link on page 7?

new link:
http://gticlub.synology.me/forumpics/forsale/pumpk...


e46m3c

874 posts

155 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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Saw you on track at donny. Will have to pop over and say hi next time. I was in the blue e36. Found your build thread by chance this time!

200 miles on track thats a lot of miles i think i did only 120. Was getting brake fluid starvation into craners which was amusing!

BullyB

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2,344 posts

247 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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e46m3c said:
Saw you on track at donny. Will have to pop over and say hi next time. I was in the blue e36. Found your build thread by chance this time!

200 miles on track thats a lot of miles i think i did only 120. Was getting brake fluid starvation into craners which was amusing!
yer, I came to see you but you were not in the garage at the time. I did do a lot of laps that day, some slow causing ones to cool down too.
Brake fluid starvation sounds fun...!
My car is off for tracking at the weekend so looking forward to Anglesea next week

iguana

7,044 posts

260 months

Saturday 27th June 2015
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Oh lordy, I'm not a fan of the wing mate.