My Electric Car thread!

My Electric Car thread!

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FreeLitres

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6,054 posts

178 months

Tuesday 21st February 2012
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Thanks Rebz!

I agree, I think EVs are here to stay and will make up a (probably fairly small) proportion of next year's new car sales. The more cars that are sold and the greater the number of players in the market, the more money will be invested in R&D. Hopefully, this will lead to range increases of 200+ miles!

So, after the trial, will I buy an iOn or a Leaf?

Well, I have just committed to my next car - but this time it's not going to be Electric.

A recent change in job means that I will have to travel a lot more for work, so the EV just doesn’t fit with my new requirements. However, if I was sticking with my old job and if I could find a lease at the right price or a 2nd hand EV, I might just consider it for a commuter vehicle!

The trial continues...

For completeness, my new car will be a VW Passat 2.0 TDi SE company car

kamilb1998

2,220 posts

178 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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Just read through this whole thread, found it very interesting! thumbup

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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I think this might actually be the game changer for a lot of people:




competitive on price (~£28k)

styling is ok (distinctive rather than truely beautiful)

most of the time you can use it as a pure P-HEV (cheap running costs)

if you do long journeys you can still use it (ok, it ain't efficienct as a diesel on long high speed journeys, but if you only do a proportion of your driving at high speed thats ok)


Biggest downsides i can see are:

1) it's only a 4 seater
2) it's got a vauxhall badge on
3) the interior is no where near european quality
4) no body knows what the residuals are going to be (if new tech comes along, then like last years mobile phone/ipod it could be worth buttons suddenly !)



If it drove as well as a BMW then i would seriously consider one!

JD

2,780 posts

229 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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Max_Torque said:
I think this might actually be the game changer for a lot of people:




competitive on price (~£28k)
The vauxhall Configurator puts a base spec version in white at over £38k....

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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zikes! God knows where i got the 28k price from then??


Thought that sounded a bit too good ;-(

FreeLitres

Original Poster:

6,054 posts

178 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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I’ve only got the iOn for another 2 weeks - It’s going back a month early!

My new company car is arriving at the start of April and I wouldn’t really have space for all 4 cars at home, so SwitchEV have arranged for the next trial candidate to take the car a month early.

Wow, these last 5 months have flown by!

I have really enjoyed being part of the trial. I am sure that my experiences have been helped by the mild weather this winter. I would NOT have liked to commute in this car though last winter’s snow and freezing conditions for several reasons including;

- Worries about the range substantially dropping off below -5 degrees C

- Uncertainties of how the car would behave in the snow (torque + RWD + short wheelbase)

- Regularly getting absolutely frozen being sat in the car with no heating

On reflection, I think I am going to miss the car and some of the freedoms it brings such as guaranteed free parking spots during busy times and as much “fuel” as I want for £10 a month. Looking at how many new EV and Hybrid models seem to be emerging at the moment, I would imagine that by the time my 3-year company car lease is up, we could have seen a significant improvement in EV technology and the future cars might be more tempting to the mass market.

I'm interested to see how things develop!

R500POP

8,785 posts

211 months

Monday 5th March 2012
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I've been watching this thread * also looking, quire seriously, at wheather or not we could manage with an electric car, and for 99% of the time the answer is a yes.

However, you can get a Nissan Leaf for under £20,000 pre owned, but the killer blow comes when you realise that the garage selling is over200miles away, and in reality, you will not actually be able to drive your new car home.

carreauchompeur

17,857 posts

205 months

Monday 5th March 2012
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R500POP said:
However, you can get a Nissan Leaf for under £20,000 pre owned, but the killer blow comes when you realise that the garage selling is over200miles away, and in reality, you will not actually be able to drive your new car home.
rofl

You'd have to stop halfway!

Globs

13,841 posts

232 months

Monday 5th March 2012
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carreauchompeur said:
R500POP said:
However, you can get a Nissan Leaf for under £20,000 pre owned, but the killer blow comes when you realise that the garage selling is over200miles away, and in reality, you will not actually be able to drive your new car home.
rofl

You'd have to stop halfway!
Possibly more than once.

If EV manufacturers had standardised on swappable battery units you could just stop at a participating garage on the way and swap some more juice in.

As they can't be arsed to do that you'll be stuck.
And so will they...

FreeLitres

Original Poster:

6,054 posts

178 months

Monday 5th March 2012
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Quick chargers at motorway service stations would resolve that problem.

Or, if you are buying pre-owned from a dealers, ask them to stick it on a flatbed or transporter to your local branch.

Globs

13,841 posts

232 months

Monday 5th March 2012
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FreeLitres said:
Quick chargers at motorway service stations would resolve that problem.
No they won't, for various technical reasons charging fast is not the answer.

FreeLitres

Original Poster:

6,054 posts

178 months

Monday 5th March 2012
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Globs said:
No they won't, for various technical reasons charging fast is not the answer.
Not for regular use, but for one-off long journeys, they could be part of the solution IMO.

kamilb1998

2,220 posts

178 months

Monday 5th March 2012
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FreeLitres said:
Not for regular use, but for one-off long journeys, they could be part of the solution IMO.
I agree.

R500POP

8,785 posts

211 months

Tuesday 6th March 2012
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Max_Torque said:
zikes! God knows where i got the 28k price from then??


Thought that sounded a bit too good ;-(
£37,250 for the base model I belive. Rediculous.

Podie

46,630 posts

276 months

Tuesday 6th March 2012
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I see one of the Mitsubishi branded ones in London quite a bit. Guess it works quite well in the city.

Globs

13,841 posts

232 months

Tuesday 6th March 2012
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R500POP said:
£37,250 for the base model I belive. Rediculous.
That's an expensive car...

..which means it took a LOT of energy to put it together...

... which means: a lot of oil.

It would be kinder to the planet to but a small petrol car.

TimJMS

2,584 posts

252 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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Picked up my demo Leaf yesterday. Someone had been hoofing it the day before so range on a full charge said 62 miles and I had 52 miles to get home yikes

The dealer set up Carwings on my iphone, showed me the controls and off I went. Its a very pleasant place to be. Uncannily quiet and so smooooooth. With careful driving in Eco Mode I managed it home with 20 miles to spare, and plugged her straight in to an outside 3 pin household socket.



Bimbled around in it yesterday afternoon. Mixed driving. Stuck around another 30 miles on it, returned home and plugged back in. She has completed an overnight charge, which took about 8 hours. When I logged into the car earlier it was with some relief I found the new range had adapted to my driving:



A full day with it awaits.

Beefmeister

16,482 posts

231 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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Cool, another Leaf on PH! They're taking over... hehe

R500POP

8,785 posts

211 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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What length test drive have you got in your Leaf? My dealer will only offer 24hrs, which isn't really enough to see if it fits in with our lifestyle.

Efbe

9,251 posts

167 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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R500POP said:
What length test drive have you got in your Leaf? My dealer will only offer 24hrs, which isn't really enough to see if it fits in with our lifestyle.
agreed.
I think you'd need at least a week if not more to see how well it does.