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JB434

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166 posts

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Hi Pistonheads, I've been lurking for quite a few months now (about 10 I believe) ever since I passed my test and I felt this was the right day to sign up and introduce myself as I have just purchased a PH-worthy car, which is of, course. The Mazda MX5.
Of course these cars are almost as common as dirt on the roads of the UK and may not be as exciting as some of the more exotic metal driven by other members but I couldn't be happier to have purchased it.


I am really happy to have got it, especially as I only paid £1800 for 1 metric tons worth of 2003 Mazda MX5 1.6 which is an amazing price. It is also in fantastic condition.

What can I say after that? I've only been driving for about 10 months at this point and in the time I've spent behind the wheel I already love it so much more than the Renault Clio 1.2 I've been driving for that time period. To put it simply, it just feels so much nicer to drive than the Clio.

Another couple of pictures I took after getting it home.

A rear view of it, remarkably the car is pretty rust free, there's a few spots underneath the boot lid and in the wheel arches but otherwise it's fine.



The best view I've ever had of the road. Enough said.

Plans for the future? Well I'm only going to start using it in Feb when my current insurance runs out because I need the year of NCB I'll have gained to afford it, I'm also going to change the rear tyres (Sunfull's apparently, never heard of them, definately chinese and so they're gonna go) and hopefully get the rust fixed and rustproof the car so it won't gain anymore.

Thanks for reading
-JB

St. Anger

1,080 posts

51 months

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Good work thumbup I've only been drving mines (my first car) since Octoberish and I'm already firmly in love with it. Enjoy!

JayTee94

10,974 posts

27 months

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I like the Mazda MX-5 Mk2 aswell. Great price! thumbup

Enjoy! biggrin

Poko

244 posts

39 months

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Nice looking car and an absolutely cracking price to boot!

Now get that hard top off and get the roof down, you'll soon realise what a silly idea having a roof is! Mine is only ever down if wet.. (or lately, frozen!) laugh

Absolutely love mine, still have a grin whenever I drive anywhere beer

j44esd

914 posts

93 months

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Nice MK2! I miss my old MK1. That maybe why I appear to be in the middle of acquiring my Dad's from him.... smile
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JB434

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166 posts

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Poko said:
Nice looking car and an absolutely cracking price to boot!

Now get that hard top off and get the roof down, you'll soon realise what a silly idea having a roof is! Mine is only ever down if wet.. (or lately, frozen!) laugh

Absolutely love mine, still have a grin whenever I drive anywhere beer
I know, I've only driven it a bit today and I already love it. It's just so much nicer than my current car, alas I was driving it on my "allowed to drive cars with the permission of the registered keeper" clause of my insurance so I got it home and there it will sit until February when I tax, MOT and insure it. Going to be so disappointed as I'll have to walk past it in order to reach my other car.
Regarding the roof I actually tried to get it off in order to get a couple of pictures (with my parents convinced that removing it would instantly mean the interior would become soaked with water or something hehe) but I couldn't get the bolts undone at the rear of the roof where it attaches to the car, any ideas?

I also cannot believe the price I got it for, the only reason I offered so low in the first place was because I'd been looking at MK1 MX5's and had absolutely no idea what MK2 ones were worth laugh.
Imagine my surprise when they rang me a day later and said they'd sell to me as the dealer hadn't offered them as much as a P/X biggrin

-JB

Chunkychucky

3,930 posts

39 months

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Very nice 2nd car mate, make the most of what a rear wheel drive layout teaches you wink

JB434

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166 posts

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Chunkychucky said:
Very nice 2nd car mate, make the most of what a rear wheel drive layout teaches you wink
It's not going to be a 2nd car, the one I have at the moment is going to go to my brother when he learns to drive so I'll be using the MX5 as my daily. biggrin

Indeed, part of the reason I wanted an MX5 was as a stepping stone to other, more powerful RWD cars.
Definately going to need to find an empty area of private land where I can legally practice such things as catching slides, etc, hopefully with some degree of mechanical sympathy as well (no sympathy to the tyres tongue out, I'll be replacing the rear ones anyway).

Probably have some fun along the way as well, ran across a patch of ice as I pulled out of a T junction (from the long leg of the T) and slid the back out by a few inches for a few seconds by mistake, laughed my head off after I realised what had happened. hehe

-JB

Edited by JB434 on Sunday 18th December 20:18

Chunkychucky

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JB434 said:
It's not going to be a 2nd car, the one I have at the moment is going to go to my brother when he learns to drive so I'll be using the MX5 as my daily. biggrin

Indeed, part of the reason I wanted an MX5 was as a stepping stone to other, more powerful RWD cars.
Definately going to need to find an empty area of private land where I can legally practice such things as catching slides, etc, hopefully with some degree of mechanical sympathy as well (no sympathy to the tyres tongue out, I'll be replacing the rear ones anyway).

Probably have some fun along the way as well, ran across a patch of ice as I pulled out of a T junction (from the long leg of the T) and slid the back out by a few inches for a few seconds by mistake, laughed my head off after I realised what had happened. hehe

-JB

Edited by JB434 on Sunday 18th December 20:18
Haha! Good man using it full time biggrin

Yeah, either that or wet roundabouts. Have to be careful though, some of them can be lethal if they're in particularly built up areas, can remember one particular instance in a 190e 2.5-16, had a very large angle at no more than 25 miles per hour eek Great fun to drive though these, good choice. Much better IMO than going for a mild/hot hatch smile

Codswallop

3,961 posts

64 months

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Poko said:
Now get that hard top off and get the roof down, you'll soon realise what a silly idea having a roof is! Mine is only ever down if wet.. (or lately, frozen!) laugh
You're doing it wrong! wink

Nice car OP. The view down the bonnet is indeed nice, and combined with the low driving position makes it feel just that bit more special than a regular hatchback.

PaulG40

1,766 posts

95 months

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Alot of love for MX5s, and yours is a good find!

JB434

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166 posts

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As predicted I was gutted this morning when I had to walk past it in order to climb into my Clio.
It's a real shame I need to wait until February to insure it & my idea of day insuring it on the 25th was shot down with a brief google search, they all want you to be 21+. frown

While I'm on the subject of insurance my mum actually suggested that I front it... eek Like that'll happen, if anything happens I want to be confident that the insurers will be covering me and then there's also the whole "not committing fraud" side of things as well.

-JB

St. Anger

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You don't need to tell me about insurance matey - I got no change from £2000 when insuring my Mk1. Worth every penny though, you'll find out soon enough! I agree with you on the whole not wanting to front your policy, not really worth the saved couple of hundred quid when it comes to claim time (fingers crossed that never happens though!)

j44esd

914 posts

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JB434 said:
As predicted I was gutted this morning when I had to walk past it in order to climb into my Clio.
It's a real shame I need to wait until February to insure it & my idea of day insuring it on the 25th was shot down with a brief google search, they all want you to be 21+. frown

While I'm on the subject of insurance my mum actually suggested that I front it... eek Like that'll happen, if anything happens I want to be confident that the insurers will be covering me and then there's also the whole "not committing fraud" side of things as well.

-JB
It will be worth the wait, trust me! smile

snotrag

10,427 posts

81 months

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Great car, especially for that price. 1.6 will still feel sufficiently fruity after a 1200cc Clio.

Make sure you come and join us in the MX5 area of PH, and also join MX5-Nutz too. Finally, miata.net, particularly the garage section, should be in your internet browser favourites!

There is much, much to learn about these cars.

Now some honest advice. Sell the hardtop after Christmas. And spend the money on some good quality tyres, and a suspension alignment. It is an absolute MUST. I cannot stress how important this is, and any experience MX% owners will agree. Hardtops are great - for selling on and making some cash back!

Theres a whole bunch of things you can do in these long months till you can drive it too!

- Check+rod your drain holes
- Check your shifter boots
- Adjust your hood latches

etc etc...

Enjoy, it looks great!

St. Anger

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^^ Good advice from snotty, the MX-5 section on here is a wonderfull tool which has already helped me on a number of occasions. For example, I had a leak under the bonnet, I had no idea where it was coming from but after posting one very vague photograph of an obscure area in the engine bay, I had a diagnosis after about 2 and a half hours. I've found Nutz particularly useful for finding breakers, used parts and good group-buys, to echo the above I'd recommend signing up over there too!

JB434

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166 posts

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snotrag said:
Great car, especially for that price. 1.6 will still feel sufficiently fruity after a 1200cc Clio.

Make sure you come and join us in the MX5 area of PH, and also join MX5-Nutz too. Finally, miata.net, particularly the garage section, should be in your internet browser favourites!

There is much, much to learn about these cars.

Now some honest advice. Sell the hardtop after Christmas. And spend the money on some good quality tyres, and a suspension alignment. It is an absolute MUST. I cannot stress how important this is, and any experience MX% owners will agree. Hardtops are great - for selling on and making some cash back!

Theres a whole bunch of things you can do in these long months till you can drive it too!

- Check+rod your drain holes
- Check your shifter boots
- Adjust your hood latches

etc etc...

Enjoy, it looks great!
Thanks. I'm not entirely certain about selling the hardtop, sure it would give me a few hundred quid to buy a new pair of tyres and get the rust spots sorted but I'm not entirely certain that the soft-top will be adequate during the winters. I certainly feel better knowing that the soft-top isn't getting soaked with water that then freezes overnight.

Now, I've been thinking about what exactly I can do to it, I have absolutely no experience or knowledge of how to mend/improve things on cars, I wouldn't even know where to start with that little list of small tasks and have absolutely no knowledge of what (if any) tools would be required for them. Not that I have the money to purchase such things at the moment.

I have spotted a task that I will be able to tackle and I happen to have most of tomorrow free so, weather permitting, tomorrow I will probably end up cleaning it and maybe even attempting to get rid of a couple of scratches and a scuff I spotted on the offside of the car, probably going to be heading into town to buy some new cleaning stuff rather than using the old, grit covered sponges and stuff in the garage so any product recomendations by anyone would be more than welcome.

Regarding tyres, what exactly are regarded as good tyres for MX5's? The front is wearing a pair of "Barum Bravuris" tyres which through a little research are apparently Continentals but without the premium price tag, however the rear tyres are some chinese brand called "Sunfull" which I couldn't find a lot of information about, typical chinese quality?

-JB

snotrag

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JB434 said:
I'm not entirely certain that the soft-top will be adequate during the winters.
Don't be worried. Also - don't listen to any old farts telling you about how much their MGB used to leak in the winter. An MX5 with a properly functioning soft top is 100% watertight. Even if your softtop was absolutely shagged, I'd still recommend you sell the hardtop, and put the money towards a gorgeous new mohair roof.
Both my cars have lived outside through very cold winters, and its never a problem. Even with a foot of snow on the roof there's been no issues due to cold/rain/snow.

Honestly - I speak from experience - All a hardtop does is be a source for cursing when your away from home, its a cold crisp winters day, and the suns out.
A good hood is warm, waterproof, and goes down anytime, in 10 seconds flat!

JB434 said:
I have absolutely no experience or knowledge of how to mend/improve things on cars, I wouldn't even know where to start with that little list of small tasks and have absolutely no knowledge of what (if any) tools would be required for them.
Well, you've chosen the perfect car. They are very simple to work on, when compared with many other types of cars. Most things are very well designed, accessible, and sensible.

Here's a job you can do that's easy - rod your drain holes. Ideal to do tomorrow while your having a cleaning session on the car.

When water runs off the soft top it runs into a Rain rail - this runs around the curved rear deck area under your back window. The water then drains into two drain holes, where it passes THROUGH the car, and exits through two little drain tubes tucked up underneath the chassis of the car in front of the rear wheels. Naturally, lots of dirt, leaves, muck etc also gets stuck down the sides of the roof, blocking the holes. Once these holes are blocked, water can back up and ends up all over, usually causing the rear deck carpet to be wet and soggy, getting into your interior, and getting all sorts of places it shouldn't.

This dampness is the main cause of people complaining of soggy MX-5's, and also cars that steam up or never demist in the winter.


The holes simply need unblocking every so often. You need to use something long and flexible. A long bit of stiff cable, one of those very long tube cleaning brushes, something along those lines. I uses a bit of stiff Plastic Vacuum tubing from the garage.

Remove your hardtop ( and sell it hehe ) and look down the side of the hood, behind the seatbelt towers.




You can see the car in that pic has a little bit of muck in that area. You might need to move the carpet about to see the holes - they are in there.
Using your long tool clean out the drain tubes. If its not been done often, you may find there's all sorts of gooey mess in there.
you can check they are unblocked by pouring water down the holes. You should see a steam of water coming out from under the car, in front of the rear wheels.
Its an easy job, costs nowt, but is very important. Anyone 'enthusiastic' about their MX-5 will be aware of this.

Done that - congratulations. You just bonded with your car biggrin

If you haven't already, even if you decide your keeping the hardtop for now, I'd still recommend removing it and making sure the hood goes up and down properly, and is in good condition. I've seen a number of cars (My original MK1 included) where the previous owner had left the hardtop on for years and hood itself had actually suffered and was faded on the inside surface and creased badly.


RE tyres. What size wheels do you have? MX'5s being light, and 'sporty' are very sensitive to the types of tyres used. Having a pair of cheap budget tyres on the rear is not a good idea at all.

At the very least, I'd suggest the rears should be replaced. Ideally all 4 though. Don't worry about expensive 'premium' tyres - There's lots of midrange brands that are going to be infinitely better, Toyo, Hankook, Vredestein, Kuhmo, etc etc.

If you have 15" wheels then Toyo T1's or Uniroyal Rainsports are the current best value buys, and you could get a pair fitted for less than £100. In fact if your smart or know a friendly fitter you could get all 4 for about £140 fitted.

The tyres make a HUGE difference to the handling and control of the car. Also bear in mind tyre pressures, which again have a far more marked affect than on larger duller cars. Standard pressure is around 26-27psi all round, so an awful lot of cars actually have OVER inflated tyres.

Get some more pics tomorrow, and if theres anything you want to question post it up! I'm on holiday at the moment so I'm also spending a few days working on my car you see, so I'm in that kind of mood!






JB434

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snotrag said:
Comprehensive and extremely helpful post
Thanks for taking the time to write all that up, checking those drainage holes now should now be easy, if I can get the roof off it that is, I couldn't get the bolts holding it down at the back of the car to come out so I could remove it to get a couple of photos without it. The heads were starting to strip and there was absolutely no movement so I have no idea, or I was going about removing it in completely the wrong way, I'd already released all the clamps holding it on inside so it's only those bolts left as far as I can see.

I shall also check what size wheels it's on tomorrow because I have absolutely no idea.

Thanks again
-JB

snotrag

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Yup, your doing the hardtop wrong hehe

No tools are required to remove/fit a hardtop. It can be done in about a minute. You can do it on your own if your tall enough to be able to reach over far enough to lift it yourself.


Undo all four latches. Two at the top, two at the sides. Undo the heated rear window flying lead (behind passenger seat).

At the back are the two silver lumps, attached to the top. Under here is a 'frankenstein bolt'. This bolt is attached to the chrome trim piece, with the other chrom philips head screw that you've been trying to undo. That screw stays where it is.

The silver latche slide backwards off the Frankenstein bolts. With latches undone, open the doors and grab the hardtop where the rear edge of the side window would sit. Give it a shove backwards. It needs a fairly hefty shove on both sides. This will unclip the Silver latches from the Frankenstein bolts.

Once both sides are free, it will just lift off over the rear of the car (make sure your radio aerial is out of the way first!).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lESz5At1dFc

Watch how at 10s he gives it a tug backwards, then the same on the other side.
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