BMW 328i

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snotrag

14,481 posts

212 months

Tuesday 21st February 2012
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If the engine warms up, the gauge shows it being warm, yet the rad is cold and nothing is flowing, then that sounds like the thermostat is stuck closed.

Try removing it from the housing, bolting it back up and then running it. It should warm up, slowly, and all the pipes should then fill up. You can check the rad is getting warm too.

If it still doesnt warm up, or perhaps only some parts of the rad warm up, it could be blocked.

kodos

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242 posts

152 months

Tuesday 21st February 2012
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BliarOut

72,857 posts

240 months

Tuesday 21st February 2012
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They can be a tt to bleed properly. Get the nose up in the air and make sure you've got the heating on full etc.

kodos

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242 posts

152 months

Tuesday 21st February 2012
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Im gunna do this again tommorow get the car in the air on the ramps.

Theres loads of guides on the internet anyone got one they have tried and tested?

Epic fail of a car project thread lol! Then again shows the troubles of a 14 year old 142,000 £850 car lol

BliarOut

72,857 posts

240 months

Tuesday 21st February 2012
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Lift just the nose! Mine took a few heat cycles before she bled fully.

kodos

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242 posts

152 months

Tuesday 21st February 2012
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Yea i will do ill just roll the front of the car onto my ramps there about 8 inches high will that be enough?>

BliarOut

72,857 posts

240 months

Tuesday 21st February 2012
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I just took mine up as far as my trolley jack would allow. Cracking pipes open when cold might help to shift any locks. Can't remember off the top of my head, are they all those special connectors that you can't easily loosen?

1bhp

156 posts

177 months

Tuesday 21st February 2012
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kodos said:
Im gunna do this again tommorow get the car in the air on the ramps.

Theres loads of guides on the internet anyone got one they have tried and tested?

Epic fail of a car project thread lol! Then again shows the troubles of a 14 year old 142,000 £850 car lol
This is why i drive around in a lifeless dull rep mobile can't be dealing with things braking all the time, but hey what do i know i just Drive around really smug thinking peasants can't achieve anything i can.

kodos

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242 posts

152 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2012
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Lol firstly reread my posts and you will notice i was totally taking the P*ss and having a laugh.

But yes you go back to laughing at the peasants smile

seismic22

644 posts

170 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2012
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These can be either really easy to bleed or absolute f***ers! I spent over a week trying to bleed mine.

Tried every technique in the book, ive never had any trouble bleeding other cars! The only way I could manage to bleed it was by sticking a hosepipe in the tank and running the car with the hose on and the top hose off then after a while sticking the top hose back on. Prob was, I then had no coolant in it! I gave up as I needed the car for work and after one specialist couldnt do it either, another specialist went and did it in under an hour.

No idea what was wrong there but I had the same "st its the head gasket" thoughts as you and now 3000 miles on, she purrs away fine.

kodos

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242 posts

152 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2012
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Im going to have another stab at it this afternoon.

On another update ive started prepping the few bits of bodywork that need doing!

mwcr85

152 posts

150 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2012
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Give it drive round with the heaters on full and the rad cap a bit loose so the air bubbles can work their way out. Can you hear any air locks when you drive it?

TonyRPH

12,977 posts

169 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2012
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As above, make sure the heater valves are fully open during the bleed process.

And also be sure to raise the front end.

IIRC there is a bleed nipple on the radiator, or near the top hose? (radiator side)


Somesayhis

162 posts

152 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2012
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I had this with my 328i back in the day, I found the driving with heaters on full hot and cap loose worked but only after filling the small bleed hole with the nose in the air allowing the bubbles to escape from the main tank neck. So get a hose pipe, with engine running, remove both the filler cap and bleed screw, jack car up approx 25 degrees, heaters set to hot, fill the tank until overflowing from both the tank side and the bleed screw hole, then put the hose pipe over the bleed screw hole. My hose pipe fitted pretty flush. This back fills the tank, and if you 'stat is working and open then the system. It always amazed me how many more bubbles came out doing this. I would do this for a good ten mins. Then a blat round the block with the cap loose and bleed screw fasten tight (20p peice is ideal), then re check. Got there in the end.


Good luck.

Edited by Somesayhis on Wednesday 22 February 23:44

VinceFox

20,566 posts

173 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2012
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Nice looking car, left totally standard and cleaned up that's a lovely machine.

I reckon the thermostat is faulty as said. Either that or another bleed is needed.



Oh if you do scrap it, i'm looking for a completely rust free e36 coupe tailgate that's never had a spoiler. Just saying.

GBB

1,737 posts

160 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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1bhp said:
kodos said:
Im gunna do this again tommorow get the car in the air on the ramps.

Theres loads of guides on the internet anyone got one they have tried and tested?

Epic fail of a car project thread lol! Then again shows the troubles of a 14 year old 142,000 £850 car lol
This is why i drive around in a lifeless dull rep mobile can't be dealing with things braking all the time, but hey what do i know i just Drive around really smug thinking peasants can't achieve anything i can.
Mine did 70K miles with no major bills (got it up to 197K), I drove around smugly thinking about peasants in dull lifeless rep mobiles wink

Bleed it on a slope should make massive difference. Spend hours trying to clear air bubbles (therefore trapped air) from my E30, then put it onto a slope and cleared it all in less than 30 mins or so.

That said nothing in the radiator implies a blockage of some kind, I had a similar problem with my GTI when I flushed it and changed the fluid. I put on a new radiator in desperation and problem solved. My conclusion on that one was that I'd probably dislodged some rad-weld put in by the previous owner causing a blockage.

TonyRPH

12,977 posts

169 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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Not intending to put a downer on things - but a mate had a 328 as well.

His didn't reach operating temperature either - and following that first very cold winter we had he also decided to replace the thermostat and pump etc.

It ran fine for about 6 months, and when summer came the overheating started - eventually he got rid of it because he just couldn't get it right.

I had the same problem with both a 520i (E34) and 523i (E39) I once had.

It seems that once the M52 engine starts giving cooling problems - there's just no fix for it.

ETA: fixed poor spelling.

Edited by TonyRPH on Thursday 23 February 17:34

VinceFox

20,566 posts

173 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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TonyRPH said:
Not intending to put a downer on things - but a mate had a 328 as well.

His didn't reach operating temperature either - and following that first very cold winter we had he also decided to replace the thermostat and pump etc.

It ran fine for about 6 months, and then onve summer came the overheating started - eventually he got rid of it because he just couldn't get it right.

I had the same problem with both a 520i (E34) and 523i (E39) I once had.

It seems that once the M52 engine starts giving cooling problems - there's just no fix for it.
i don't accept this, with respect.

take the thermostat out altogether, rebleed on an incline with heating full on, for way longer than you think you need to. if it still does it, get a hydrocarbon sniff done on the expansion tank next.

does it actually lose any coolant? the expansion tank on these likes to develop invisible cracks that only leak when at operating temp.

also, have you tested the efficiency of the viscous fan?

kodos

Original Poster:

242 posts

152 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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Hi thanks everyone for all the replies.

The car loses no coolant.

I think im going to replace the thermostat with a genuine BMW one flush the engine and the radiator and rebleed.

Wish me luck


BliarOut

72,857 posts

240 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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I'd be inclined to fill her up nose high if you can.