99t's Saab 99 Turbo

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99t

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1,004 posts

209 months

Monday 27th February 2012
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I’ve owned my Saab 99 TURBO for a good number of years now and to my shame have never actually had it roadworthy. I could make numerous excuses as to how this happened, and some would even be vaguely valid, but the simple fact is that I lost motivation a good while back and have struggled ever since to regain it.

This thread then, is an attempt to regain some momentum, and hopefully if I let things slip you chaps will kindly give me a virtual kick up the backside to get on with it…

Anyway, enough “Dear Diedre”, a little bit about the car:-

1978 Saab 99 EMS TURBO Combi (3-door) to name it correctly, in black, as were all of the officially imported examples in 1978 and 1979. Very original and unmolested with approx. 52k miles from new and nearly full history but little used for a long period before (and since) purchase so suffering from lack of use and some degree of tinworm. My original intention was to overhaul the mechanical side of things and carry out sympathetic body repairs maintaining as much of the (mostly) original paint as possible...

As delivered


Interior


No antifreeze or thermostat = rotted head gasket


Rebuilding head whilst fitting new head gasket


Rebuild internal (in block) water-pump as seals shot


Injectors ultrasonically cleaned


Rebuild external wastegate (to right of pic and excuse state of cam cover!!)


Rebuild fuel pressure regulator


Re-bling a few brackets and fixings


The above work was intended to return the engine to basic mechanical fitness and improve the running characteristics since the Bosch K-Jetronic fuel injection was a little bit gummed up but as it wasn’t too bad I hoped it would improve with use...

Unfortunately, once running it was obvious that there was still an issue with the head or head gasket seal evidenced by lots of water coming out of the exhaust, coolant loss and an occasional misfire. Heads are known to crack and / or go porous with age and although it was checked and pressure tested during rebuild, I suspect it is harbouring some issues.

In addition, the bottom end showed its displeasure at the previous lack of use by leaking copious amounts of oil from every gasket and seal so clearly I need to start again with the engine out for a full strip down, and it was at this point I spat my dummy out and put the car away for several years!!! grumpy

MrMoonyMan

2,584 posts

211 months

Monday 27th February 2012
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Lovely lovely lovely.

Hurry up and get that up and running. A black 99t combi coupe is about as cool as it gets - the only thing that'd be nicer is a Cardinal Red one.. Mmm

Diablos-666

2,786 posts

178 months

Monday 27th February 2012
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Somebody watched top gear last night wink


NotDave

20,951 posts

157 months

Monday 27th February 2012
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as did I. Awesome cars.


Even the OH wants one smile

99t

Original Poster:

1,004 posts

209 months

Monday 27th February 2012
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Diablos-666 said:
Somebody watched top gear last night wink
biggrin true!

4pot

477 posts

224 months

Monday 27th February 2012
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I look forward to reading this! Great work so far.

Podie

46,630 posts

275 months

Monday 27th February 2012
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99t said:
Diablos-666 said:
Somebody watched top gear last night wink
biggrin true!
Watch the values rise for the next 6 months...

y2blade

56,106 posts

215 months

Monday 27th February 2012
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Following with interest cool

Diablos-666

2,786 posts

178 months

Monday 27th February 2012
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Podie said:
Watch the values rise for the next 6 months...
yes

I even checked on PH classifieds last night whilst TG was still on hehe

Addymk2

334 posts

172 months

Monday 27th February 2012
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Diablos-666 said:
yes

I even checked on PH classifieds last night whilst TG was still on hehe
Your not the only one!

Temptation is an understatement.

sprouting

481 posts

184 months

Monday 27th February 2012
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Did somebody mention a red 99t.

http://retrorides.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=FS...


Nothing to do with me by the way.

Chunkychucky

5,961 posts

169 months

Monday 27th February 2012
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Nice interior, apart from the tin worm you mention looks mint!

Fluid

1,728 posts

185 months

Tuesday 28th February 2012
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I fking love those seats. thumbup

99t

Original Poster:

1,004 posts

209 months

Tuesday 28th February 2012
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Thanks for all the positive comments; I've loved these cars ever since attending the dealer launch event at Donnington with my parents when I was about 10.

After drooling over lots of shiny new cars and various other static exhibits such as this car...



…although having previously cut up a 99 shell with an angle grinder I can attest to just how much steel is in those screen pillars - they are hollow, but only just!

In fact as an aside, had Top Gear dropped a 99 on its roof instead of a 900 it would probably have done even better - to ease door opening in a heavy frontal impact the 900 pillars were shortened and weakened compared to the 99 ones which extend right down to the bottom of the front wheel arch.




Anyway, I digress; back at Donnington we were then driven round the track in a Turbo by a professional driver at what seemed to me like unbelievable speed, and next had a ride in another 99 with no less that Eric Carlsson at the wheel who was doing braking demonstrations, driving over a device that instantly deflated a front tyre and then braking in a straight line with his hands off the wheel*

Well that was it, I was hooked on the 99t (to the utter bemusement of friends and family who just don't "get" them at all!)

*
although I seem to recall a passenger photo emerging later on that showed he actually had his thighs wedged very firmly underneath the wheel!!wink

99t

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1,004 posts

209 months

Wednesday 28th March 2012
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Work has now re-started. smile

Awoken from hibernaton



Dragged back home







Started stripping down - taking lots of notes and pictures as I go..





There are some exceptions, but access is mostly pretty good once the bonnet and slam panel are removed



One of the access exceptions - I had an absolute nightmare getting the wastegate to manifold bolts off when I did the head gasket first time around - it took me about three long evenings of intermittently swearing, crying and throwing things about before I got all four bolts undone due to a combination of rust and non-existent access to a couple of them. Fortunately I replaced them with stainless so no such problems this time (easier ones to access in photo!)





Making good progress - K-Jet pipes and metering body disconnected and removed. Still to do before engine out; starter motor wiring, gear linkage, driveshafts, oil cooler lines, clutch hydraulics and the engine and gearbox mounts. Plus, no doubt, something I'll have forgotten until I use the engine hoist to test its tensile strength....


ShampooEfficient

4,267 posts

211 months

Wednesday 28th March 2012
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Bloody lovely, all the best with it.

Oh, and pics of the Rangey plz wink

99t

Original Poster:

1,004 posts

209 months

Wednesday 28th March 2012
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ShampooEfficient said:
Bloody lovely, all the best with it.

Oh, and pics of the Rangey plz wink
Cheers beer

As requested My Rangey thread

mwstewart

7,604 posts

188 months

Wednesday 28th March 2012
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Following with interest smile

ShampooEfficient

4,267 posts

211 months

Wednesday 28th March 2012
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99t said:
ShampooEfficient said:
Bloody lovely, all the best with it.

Oh, and pics of the Rangey plz wink
Cheers beer

As requested My Rangey thread
Wibble. biggrin

SirSamuelOfBuca

1,353 posts

157 months

Wednesday 28th March 2012
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Keep at it mate smile