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MagicalTrevor
4,879 posts
99 months
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Fortunately I got all my belts done for £400 as a mate of mine works for Renault and did it all with the proper bits... but on his driveway  Fortunately anything else that goes wrong is usually cheap(er)!
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TameRacingDriver
Original Poster
8,530 posts
142 months
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Dephaser problem confirmed.  New cambelt time.
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TameRacingDriver
Original Poster
8,530 posts
142 months
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Booked in for the work. £723. I'm getting it checked over, a full service and brake discs and pads, so it'll be probably nearer a grand  Hopefully it will be worth it...
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Hoygo
680 posts
31 months
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Gutted for you mate,bad luck.
But at the state the car was when you bought it was easily predicable that there was something wrong with it other than the exterior.
I have to check mine too,as the cambelt last time was done 35k and 3 years ago,not a problem yet though.
Tell us how it would go after you'll change the Dephaser,i say let the pads and discs for another time to avoid bigger bills.
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TameRacingDriver
Original Poster
8,530 posts
142 months
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Hoygo said: Tell us how it would go after you'll change the Dephaser,i say let the pads and discs for another time to avoid bigger bills. The pads are almost down to the metal and the brake discs are warped, so they can't really wait much longer.
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joe_90
3,386 posts
101 months
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TameRacingDriver said: Dephaser problem confirmed.  New cambelt time. Why did you need to change it.. Mine was like it for a couple of years, and not an issue at all, (bar the tractor noise)
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TameRacingDriver
Original Poster
8,530 posts
142 months
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joe_90 said: Why did you need to change it.. Mine was like it for a couple of years, and not an issue at all, (bar the tractor noise) Car running like a dog and cutting out etc. No doubt it has other issues though, and I'm sure I'll find out what now.
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joe_90
3,386 posts
101 months
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TameRacingDriver said: Car running like a dog and cutting out etc. No doubt it has other issues though, and I'm sure I'll find out what now. That will be the leads or coil pack.
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Hoygo
680 posts
31 months
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TameRacingDriver said: Car running like a dog and cutting out etc. No doubt it has other issues though, and I'm sure I'll find out what now. Hope all goes well for you,in a similar note when i bought my Golf ,2 years ago i had a similar if worse experience than you,the day after i bought it the car was "blocked",i couldn't engage any gears,went to a official VW garage and was quoted 900 £ to replace the clutch and flywheel. I thought to turn the car back and get the money from the prev owner,after arguing with him he decided to pay 300 £,i paid the 600 £ and got away with a new clutch and flywheel after only two days of ownership.
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TameRacingDriver
Original Poster
8,530 posts
142 months
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Well tonight when I drove it home, it behaved perfectly, until I decided to give it a short blast on an empty dual carriageway up to some traffic lights. After that the revs would not dip below 1,500 no matter what I did and they were going up and down. It was so bad it was virtually undrivable around the slower streets. So the car is now parked up until Monday when it'll be going to the specialist and telling them just to do what they need to do to make it good (within reason).
I dare say the idling problem is nothing *too* serious, and I take the point that perhaps the dephaser isn't needed, but TBH I'd rather just have the car fixed properly, it is a daily driver and my toy that will be doing 15,000 miles this year, so it needs to work properly.
That said, I don't have endless amounts of money either, so I really do hope this is the last of the problems for at least a few months. On the plus side, a 172 with tidy bodywork, desirable OEM+ wheels, an immaculate interior, 4 new tyres, new OEMish exhaust and cambelt service done at a reputable dealer should be worth considerably more than one without these, so its not totally dead money (although it won't add as much value as its costing), unless the gearbox lunches itself, but then again, its the one part of the car that still feels as sweet as a nut.
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TameRacingDriver
Original Poster
8,530 posts
142 months
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Car is in getting surgery today. Among the faults I already know about, its also got leaking dampers, a knackered windscreen wiper mech, knackered brake pipes. How this car hasn't killed me by now, I'll never know. I will probably wish it had killed me once I get the bill. I hope its worth it 
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TameRacingDriver
Original Poster
8,530 posts
142 months
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Got car back today. £1,560  Got the following done:- Cambelt, dephaser pulley, water pump, aux belt Full service Front and rear brake pads New wiper mechanism Original springs fitted (handling is now MUCH better, and whats this we have? Ride quality!?) 2 rear dampers (leaking) A few other miscellaneous bits and pieces... AND the throttle cable and sort throttle body... only it hasn't been. It is really stiff and sticks like hell so it's going to have to go back. Definitely getting there though. My wallet is severely bruised though.
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greggy50
3,248 posts
61 months
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£1560 f  k me my clio 172 I just brought with most of that done only cost £1700  Better keep it a while now at least should not cost you anything for a long time 
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TameRacingDriver
Original Poster
8,530 posts
142 months
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Not my finest hour buying this car.
To be fair though, its virtually a new car in almost all respects now though, even 4x brand new tyres, 4x refurbished wheels, brand new stainless exhaust, on top of all the other stuff... once I get the niggles out the way it should be a fairly sorted little car.
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greggy50
3,248 posts
61 months
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TameRacingDriver said: Not my finest hour buying this car.
To be fair though, its virtually a new car in almost all respects now though, even 4x brand new tyres, 4x refurbished wheels, brand new stainless exhaust, on top of all the other stuff... once I get the niggles out the way it should be a fairly sorted little car.
Certainly  Another advantage is I could personally see a clean phase 1 car eventually becoming a future classic seeing how popular all the renaultsport clios have been since 
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TameRacingDriver
Original Poster
8,530 posts
142 months
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greggy50 said: Certainly  Another advantage is I could personally see a clean phase 1 car eventually becoming a future classic seeing how popular all the renaultsport clios have been since  I really wanted a Phase 1 so thats why I went for it, you'd be surprised how the values of these are firming up for look after ones. Mine was cheap(ish) but a 5 minute walk away from where I live. Hindsight I may have travelled further. Never mind done now, I'm probably saving a Phase 1 from a chavvy death! Been looking at your Phase 2, looks a very nice car for the money that.
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OlberJ
12,103 posts
103 months
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Just get out and drive it plenty, you'll soon forget about the cost and start enjoying it again.
Defo a future classic. It's the car Peugeot never made...205Mi16.
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Hoygo
680 posts
31 months
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What the... At that price you could have got a ph1 with all these stuff done,seriously the previous owner cheated like fook.
Hopefully you now will not have any serious problem for years,may i say about 4 years probably.
Things that may go wrong during the time are maybe some electrical gremlins usual about these cars which all cost about 50 £ to fix.
Well looks like a good long time investment now,you might profit a bit from it,as its one of the first new true blood hot hatches made,good examples will be up in price.
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TameRacingDriver
Original Poster
8,530 posts
142 months
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Cheers lads, I feel a little better about it, I fully realise I dropped a b  k with it but oh well. Main problem now is a very sticky throttle, its going back on Saturday as it was one of the things I asked them to look at but its now worse. On the plus side, the brakes are now fantastic as is the ride quality and handling. It looks a little "high" now but as far as I'm concerned looks < go 
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OlberJ
12,103 posts
103 months
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Are these still the lovely French style cable and screw clamp throttle cables?
Mind my 306 one snapping on the motorway one day. In the outside lane. Try moving across 3 lanes of traffic with absolutely no go when everyone is in a daze and you are decelerating as they are accelerating. Scary stuff.
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