My latest Furore F1
Discussion
Is there no proper price list to give a rough guide of the price?
Say you have stock of MR2s, all the kit to create a turnkey product minus X,Y and Z.
Then why not mention these prices?
I see £2400 or so for something, but its hidden in a sea of text thats hard to see.
Maybe a price list that says basic skeleton car is XXXX
Engine option A (with or without engine)
Engine option B (with or without engine)
Suspension options, etc...
(sorry to borrow off another website, but this kind of thing, plus the options above)
http://www.ultimasports.co.uk/Content.aspx?f=gtrpr...
makes it nice and easy to read and gives you an option to deliver cars at various stages including fully rolling road turn key.
Other than that complaint as I was trying to work out the total cost of a car like you have in your first post, I like it as a track weapon.
Say you have stock of MR2s, all the kit to create a turnkey product minus X,Y and Z.
Then why not mention these prices?
I see £2400 or so for something, but its hidden in a sea of text thats hard to see.
Maybe a price list that says basic skeleton car is XXXX
Engine option A (with or without engine)
Engine option B (with or without engine)
Suspension options, etc...
(sorry to borrow off another website, but this kind of thing, plus the options above)
http://www.ultimasports.co.uk/Content.aspx?f=gtrpr...
makes it nice and easy to read and gives you an option to deliver cars at various stages including fully rolling road turn key.
Other than that complaint as I was trying to work out the total cost of a car like you have in your first post, I like it as a track weapon.
spaximus said:
To all those who hate it a question, could you do better? Thought not. As Russ says he has built/sold 17 so there are at least 17 who get the fun aspect of the car which is what life is about. Many would rather buy an identikit Ferrari so they can all look the same in the car park others want to be individual.
To me the only odd thing on the car Russ is the air pod behind the seats, it looks too big an clumsy but I guess it needs to be that size to cover the second seat and engine.
In my mind, every one could do the same with a strong idea and enough passion and determination. I admire the OP for what he is doing and individual cars like this certainly keep Britain's roads interesting. I however don't like it, but can completely appreciate that there are plenty of people who do. However Spaximus, I, like every other member here, have an opinion and should I choose to dislike something doesn't mean I'm knocking the guy's abilities. I fear your horse may be a little too high.To me the only odd thing on the car Russ is the air pod behind the seats, it looks too big an clumsy but I guess it needs to be that size to cover the second seat and engine.
Tremendously silly. I love it. I think it would look a lot less wonky if you lost the Red Bull graphics and just left it matte black or similar - at the moment, it sort of tricks your eye into thinking "I'm not sure what's going on here, but I know it's not quite right."
A bit like when you eat Quorn - your brain rejects it because it's nearly, but not quite, meat (or is that just me?)
Are you planning to take it on any track days?
A bit like when you eat Quorn - your brain rejects it because it's nearly, but not quite, meat (or is that just me?)
Are you planning to take it on any track days?
Du1point8 said:
Is there no proper price list to give a rough guide of the price?
Say you have stock of MR2s, all the kit to create a turnkey product minus X,Y and Z.
Then why not mention these prices?
I see £2400 or so for something, but its hidden in a sea of text thats hard to see.
Maybe a price list that says basic skeleton car is XXXX
Engine option A (with or without engine)
Engine option B (with or without engine)
Suspension options, etc...
(sorry to borrow off another website, but this kind of thing, plus the options above)
http://www.ultimasports.co.uk/Content.aspx?f=gtrpr...
makes it nice and easy to read and gives you an option to deliver cars at various stages including fully rolling road turn key.
Other than that complaint as I was trying to work out the total cost of a car like you have in your first post, I like it as a track weapon.
There is a pricelist on the website which I won't quote again as first post with it in was removed!Say you have stock of MR2s, all the kit to create a turnkey product minus X,Y and Z.
Then why not mention these prices?
I see £2400 or so for something, but its hidden in a sea of text thats hard to see.
Maybe a price list that says basic skeleton car is XXXX
Engine option A (with or without engine)
Engine option B (with or without engine)
Suspension options, etc...
(sorry to borrow off another website, but this kind of thing, plus the options above)
http://www.ultimasports.co.uk/Content.aspx?f=gtrpr...
makes it nice and easy to read and gives you an option to deliver cars at various stages including fully rolling road turn key.
Other than that complaint as I was trying to work out the total cost of a car like you have in your first post, I like it as a track weapon.
The pricelist isn't brilliant, or indeed comprehensive, however, unlike many other manufacturers I do respond to emails & I do answer the phone! The other difficulty with pricing anything is that there are many different ways the car can be configured & I can't price everything on a page.
The website is due a major overhaul, it's not had much done for about 4 years other than to keep it fairly up to date.
mig25_foxbat2003 said:
Tremendously silly. I love it. I think it would look a lot less wonky if you lost the Red Bull graphics and just left it matte black or similar - at the moment, it sort of tricks your eye into thinking "I'm not sure what's going on here, but I know it's not quite right."
A bit like when you eat Quorn - your brain rejects it because it's nearly, but not quite, meat (or is that just me?)
Are you planning to take it on any track days?
I did a plain dark blue car & a plain white one - everyone said they looked bland & boring! I guess no one thing pleases everyone, I've done Ferrari colours, but feel thats rather "in yer face" & possibly pretentious, also been done to death with everyone covering anything from Toyotas to Nissans & Pontiacs with prancing horses.A bit like when you eat Quorn - your brain rejects it because it's nearly, but not quite, meat (or is that just me?)
Are you planning to take it on any track days?
Edited to add, yes will be doing some trackdays, hopefully soon, but need to quieten it down a bit first
Mr Sparkle said:
How about some closeup pictures of the engine bay / diff / suspension. I saw one of these in Basildon last year, think it was white, sounded nice.
The wooden base for the airbox is not a permanent fixture! This was a template for the base of laser cut airbox we now have, diff has also changed, been somewhat simplified, all the above was work in progress.
Himself said:
Erm, possibly. But that's not the point, Russ asked what people thought. I said what I thought, end of.
@ Himself, no probs with your original comment whatsoever, but it would help me if you could define exactly what is "shocking" - constructive criticism is always welcome 
I have a problem with the angular nature of it Russ. And some of the proportions (which maybe a photo thing). Previous to this year the RB cars have been rather pleasing to the eye and this just isn't to me.
The front suspension, which looks like it may have quadrants and pushrods (?) is nice though.
The front suspension, which looks like it may have quadrants and pushrods (?) is nice though.
Just a thought, having seen the front suspension, would it be possible to separate the two spring and damper units and still have them running horizontally as they are. If it is you could look at designing a similar system for hot rods, as it would eliminate the need for wishbones or Mac Pherson struts that make the fronts of IFS cars look weird. If they were laid above the chassis rails (thinking about a Model A) they could be hidden by the running boards or engine cover and could give the thing tremendous handling. I could also be talking rubbish!
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