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billzeebub

3,864 posts

200 months

Monday 25th February 2013
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Those two door Imprezas look great, like the Wagons too. It's just the 4 doors not too keen on. At £4k that's an absololoute bargain. Love the Defender more though!

Lefty

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16,163 posts

203 months

Monday 25th February 2013
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Thanks!

Td5 JE stage 2 (intercooler and map, standard turbo). ~180bhp with an Ashcroft 1.2 ratio transfer box. Actually thinking about changing it for a 110sw...or a v8 90 and an L322!

RB Will

9,666 posts

241 months

Monday 25th February 2013
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rb5er said:
NateWM said:
Lefty said:
Refurbed oem alloys, new alcon 330's and new AD08's. smile

Is that disc not on the wrong way round? The grooves should be positioned so that the internal veins fling out heat as the wheel rotates. Looking at that picture, it seems like heat would get trapped inside the disk as air is being forced in, not out.
I think you are right, good spot, I believe the discs needs swapping sides, when I bought my grooved discs they said N/S and O/S on the box and pointed to them being rotational.
I had the same brakes on my old STI which were fitted by a reputable Subaru garage and they are the same way round as the ones on the OPs car. obviously my garage could have fooked up too but having 2 Subaru specialists doing the same thing is probably a good sign.

rb5er

11,657 posts

173 months

Monday 25th February 2013
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Having had a look it seems different manufacturers and different models of grooved discs do it differently, so the grooves could be either way depending on the discs.

As said its all about the direction of the vented section (veins) in the middle of the discs.

NateWM

1,684 posts

180 months

Monday 25th February 2013
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I could well be wrong! I would look at my RB5, but that's running aftermarket AP's so no help there. I've been looking at pictures of P1's with the same discs, but I'm no wiser as some people have fitted them the same way as Lefty where as others have fitted them the way I thought may be correct. hehe

As said though, the outer veins is not always an indication of the internal direction, and it's doubtful that a reputable indy would mess up such a simple task...I would still give it a check though Lefty! wink

Lefty

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16,163 posts

203 months

Wednesday 27th February 2013
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Had a look and it seems fine!

On another matter, what do people think about subtle prodrive stickers?

I can't quite decide, I think a small, subtle, offical prodrive sticker on the back wouldn't look amiss. Or possibly a slightly larger one on the top surface of the wing.

Ordinary_Chap

7,520 posts

244 months

Wednesday 27th February 2013
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Lefty said:
Had a look and it seems fine!

On another matter, what do people think about subtle prodrive stickers?

I can't quite decide, I think a small, subtle, offical prodrive sticker on the back wouldn't look amiss. Or possibly a slightly larger one on the top surface of the wing.
My RB5 is a Prodrive edition and has a Prodrive sticker on the back and also indentations on the rear wing for Prodrive. I think it looks fine as long as its not too cluttered.

Hey do you have any footage of your track days?

andyp79

385 posts

176 months

Wednesday 27th February 2013
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Maybe a stupid question, but just an observation...

The Evo above has the brake calipers at the front of the disc, the P1 has them at the rear of the disc. Does this affect the orientation of the discs at all?

Not sure if the brakes are on the right way round or not and no idea how to tell, but wanted to ask this anyway.

Andy


rb5er

11,657 posts

173 months

Wednesday 27th February 2013
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Ordinary_Chap said:
My RB5 is a Prodrive edition and has a Prodrive sticker on the back and also indentations on the rear wing for Prodrive. I think it looks fine as long as its not too cluttered.
Mine is the same but I would not have put them on unless they came standard on the car, but then I just hate stickers unless they are meant to be there.

Lefty

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16,163 posts

203 months

Sunday 3rd March 2013
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One very subtle sticker...


Lefty

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16,163 posts

203 months

Sunday 3rd March 2013
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And a shot from Knockhill:


DanielSan

18,804 posts

168 months

Sunday 3rd March 2013
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Reading this thread is making me want a classic scooby even more. I'm having a serious amount of lust for them at the moment. Think it's down to watching the Mcrae motorsport legends program.

Lefty

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16,163 posts

203 months

Sunday 3rd March 2013
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For such a cheap car they offer a huge amount of ability on UK roads.

I bought a 6 month-old mk v golf r32 in November 2009 for about £24k. The following month I bought a '99 impreza uk turbo for £1400 to use as a winter shed. After changing the shagged dampers the impreza was a much better drive than the golf!

They do have some negative image issues but that doesn't bother me one bit.

With an all-in budget of £10-15k I can't think of another car I'd rather have than my p1. It's perfectly suited to my requirements and location.

Go on, do it!

Cheers,
Lefty

Ordinary_Chap

7,520 posts

244 months

Sunday 3rd March 2013
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Lefty said:
For such a cheap car they offer a huge amount of ability on UK roads.

I bought a 6 month-old mk v golf r32 in November 2009 for about £24k. The following month I bought a '99 impreza uk turbo for £1400 to use as a winter shed. After changing the shagged dampers the impreza was a much better drive than the golf!

They do have some negative image issues but that doesn't bother me one bit.

With an all-in budget of £10-15k I can't think of another car I'd rather have than my p1. It's perfectly suited to my requirements and location.

Go on, do it!

Cheers,
Lefty
Seconded, after years of modern hot hatches (thanks to a company car budget), I have bought a RB5 and haven't looked back.

It's so full of character and is such a great drive I don't more modern hot hatches, not to mention it can wipe the floor with pretty much all of them.

Fuel economy is a bit scary though hehe

Lefty

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16,163 posts

203 months

Sunday 3rd March 2013
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Agree with all of that except the fuel consumption...but that's just comparing it to the r32!

1250kg, 350bhp Subaru 20mpg avg
1600kg, 250bhp VW 23mpg avg

Crazy.

Lefty

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16,163 posts

203 months

Wednesday 6th March 2013
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Dyno run last night prior to engine rebuild, 345bhp and 307lb/ft


Ordinary_Chap

7,520 posts

244 months

Wednesday 6th March 2013
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Lefty said:
Dyno run last night prior to engine rebuild, 345bhp and 307lb/ft
Good effort! I'd love 320-345bhp! So after the engine build what are you expecting?

Lee

Lefty

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16,163 posts

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Wednesday 6th March 2013
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Lefty

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Wednesday 6th March 2013
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Ordinary_Chap said:
Lefty said:
Dyno run last night prior to engine rebuild, 345bhp and 307lb/ft
Good effort! I'd love 320-345bhp! So after the engine build what are you expecting?

Lee
Cheers Lee. That was with leaky headers too. The 2.5 20G will hopefully be around 380 and 380 - not a huge amount more peak power but loads more low/midrange.

Ordinary_Chap

7,520 posts

244 months

Wednesday 6th March 2013
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Lefty said:
Ordinary_Chap said:
Lefty said:
Dyno run last night prior to engine rebuild, 345bhp and 307lb/ft
Good effort! I'd love 320-345bhp! So after the engine build what are you expecting?

Lee
Cheers Lee. That was with leaky headers too. The 2.5 20G will hopefully be around 380 and 380 - not a huge amount more peak power but loads more low/midrange.
Sounds superb. I completely agree power isn't everything, its as much the delivery as it is the peak numbers.

I've been in the EVO FQ400 and the power delivery was terrible, once it got going though the performance was quite epic but I didn't like the engine characteristics of that car at all.

Lee