Thinking of getting 106 GTi. Final Tips & Advice?
Discussion
rallycross said:
If you get a good one they are terrific, sub £1k is banger money for these as good ones fetch £2k plus.
+1 Your money will go much further with the almost identical Citroen Saxo VTS. Or even the cheaper the insure VTR. The Peugeot 106 GTi attracts a considerable premium over similar Saxos because it's a small Peugeot with a GTi badge...
Baryonyx said:
+1 Your money will go much further with the almost identical Citroen Saxo VTS. Or even the cheaper the insure VTR. The Peugeot 106 GTi attracts a considerable premium over similar Saxos because it's a small Peugeot with a GTi badge...
Just did a quick quote all else being equal apart from the make and model:106 GTI: £1050
Saxo VTS: £1180
BadBanshee said:
Just did a quick quote all else being equal apart from the make and model:
106 GTI: £1050
Saxo VTS: £1180
Seller's premium, I should note. More Saxos will have been binned because they sold more, and gave them with free insurance when they were new.106 GTI: £1050
Saxo VTS: £1180
£1000 will get you a much better VTS than it will a GTi. The same could be said for the top end of the market too. £2000 will get you a good GTI or a mint VTS.
Baryonyx said:
Seller's premium, I should note. More Saxos will have been binned because they sold more, and gave them with free insurance when they were new.
£1000 will get you a much better VTS than it will a GTi. The same could be said for the top end of the market too. £2000 will get you a good GTI or a mint VTS.
You sure about that? The ones that I can see on autotrader for the same price either have dents in them, have had modded bodywork, seats with a horribly 90s pattern on them. I don't see what's 'much better' about them.£1000 will get you a much better VTS than it will a GTi. The same could be said for the top end of the market too. £2000 will get you a good GTI or a mint VTS.
You'll find that there are is more chaff than wheat when you look at either. Given the type of car it is, and the type of people they attract. As a guide, having owned a VTR and looked at buying GTi's/VTS's before (and now considering a 106 Rallye), your money will go further on the Saxo. The good Saxos don't come with the premium that the good 106 GTi's do. Funny, but that's the badge for you. The cars are nearly identical, save for some differences in the rear beam IIRC. Both will suffer from battered or corroded rear beams, and the parts aren't interchangeable.
Baryonyx said:
You'll find that there are is more chaff than wheat when you look at either. Given the type of car it is, and the type of people they attract. As a guide, having owned a VTR and looked at buying GTi's/VTS's before (and now considering a 106 Rallye), your money will go further on the Saxo. The good Saxos don't come with the premium that the good 106 GTi's do. Funny, but that's the badge for you. The cars are nearly identical, save for some differences in the rear beam IIRC. Both will suffer from battered or corroded rear beams, and the parts aren't interchangeable.
So would you say that from the pictures (last post on previous page), there might be something wrong with it because it's only £900, or does it seem about right?BadBanshee said:
So would you say that from the pictures (last post on previous page), there might be something wrong with it because it's only £900, or does it seem about right?
From the price, it could go either way. I'd be inclined to believe it could be at the scrappier end of the market. Enthusiasts who own them and know what they have will charge extra for a good one. Sometimes they slip through the net and end up in the hands of dealers or owners who just see an old Peugeot. You won't really know what it's like until you go and see it. A friend of mine bagged a beautiful £600 VTR earlier this year, all it needed was some new brake pads. You can still grab a bargain.Don't base you're opinion purely on price or mileage. Go have a look, prod about and see what you think. These cars are not inherently unreliable as many will have you believe.
Most S2 Rallyes (as an example) are well over 80-100k now (all were R or S plates with the odd T) but many are enthusiast owned and as good now, if not better than they were several years ago. Obviously gtis don't necessarily attract the same people but many have been well looked after.
Most S2 Rallyes (as an example) are well over 80-100k now (all were R or S plates with the odd T) but many are enthusiast owned and as good now, if not better than they were several years ago. Obviously gtis don't necessarily attract the same people but many have been well looked after.
Take someone more experienced with you as you seem to be slightly scared.
FSH means it has been service every 20k so should have 5 service stamps. That is all, in reality it means bigger all even less so on an old sub 1k car. It might have FSH but the suspension might be falling tobbits, rusty and seized. The only way you can judge condition is by looking and driving it.
FSH means it has been service every 20k so should have 5 service stamps. That is all, in reality it means bigger all even less so on an old sub 1k car. It might have FSH but the suspension might be falling tobbits, rusty and seized. The only way you can judge condition is by looking and driving it.
I'm not scared, I just want to make sure I've got everything covered before I make a purchase. I'm only going to take my gf with me so that she can drive the car we came in back. I don't have any mechanics for friends who can come and give the vehicle a proper once over, so I'm just going to go with the checks already suggested, test drive it, and if I don't smell a rat then he's made a sale.
I've texted the guy and I haven't received a reply so I'm going to call him tomorrow and if it's still for sale, arrange an appointment on Saturday.
I've texted the guy and I haven't received a reply so I'm going to call him tomorrow and if it's still for sale, arrange an appointment on Saturday.
I owned one about 7 years ago. Great car but even then I was spending quite a bit of money on it keeping it in tip top condition.
The main thing is making sure the cambelt, tensioner and possibly waterpump have been replaced. HG are prone to going (mine did), but don't let this out you off.
Does it have the leather interior?
Enjoy it they are fun little cars that can surprise some faster, expensive machinery.
The main thing is making sure the cambelt, tensioner and possibly waterpump have been replaced. HG are prone to going (mine did), but don't let this out you off.
Does it have the leather interior?
Enjoy it they are fun little cars that can surprise some faster, expensive machinery.
Baryonyx said:
You'll find that there are is more chaff than wheat when you look at either. Given the type of car it is, and the type of people they attract. As a guide, having owned a VTR and looked at buying GTi's/VTS's before (and now considering a 106 Rallye), your money will go further on the Saxo. The good Saxos don't come with the premium that the good 106 GTi's do. Funny, but that's the badge for you. The cars are nearly identical, save for some differences in the rear beam IIRC. Both will suffer from battered or corroded rear beams, and the parts aren't interchangeable.
It's not just the badge IMO, the GTI looks a helluva lot better. The VTR / VTS also seems to get barried a lot more - there seem to be far more modified ones around than GTIs.
Personally I'd rather spend the additional £500 and get a nicer looking car. Don't really get the badge thing - they're both PSA anyway so it's not like there's any real difference.
As for the OP, I wouldn't really give a damn about a FSH on a car that price, it's just not necessary. Just check what's been done recently, so you'll have an idea of what to expect in the future. Recent belts, rear beam etc.
Edited by pthelazyjourno on Thursday 6th December 23:51
It was.
It didn't cost me a penny to run.
Bought for £1,500, sold for £1,500.
Lovely little car. Wish I kept it. Will have another one day when I need a practical second car, love hot hatches and it's a bit closer to older cars like the 205 GTI etc - less grown up than the 172 and the like.
It didn't cost me a penny to run.
Bought for £1,500, sold for £1,500.
Lovely little car. Wish I kept it. Will have another one day when I need a practical second car, love hot hatches and it's a bit closer to older cars like the 205 GTI etc - less grown up than the 172 and the like.
pthelazyjourno said:
It was.
It didn't cost me a penny to run.
Bought for £1,500, sold for £1,500.
Lovely little car. Wish I kept it. Will have another one day when I need a practical second car, love hot hatches and it's a bit closer to older cars like the 205 GTI etc - less grown up than the 172 and the like.
Sounds great and I can't wait to own one.It didn't cost me a penny to run.
Bought for £1,500, sold for £1,500.
Lovely little car. Wish I kept it. Will have another one day when I need a practical second car, love hot hatches and it's a bit closer to older cars like the 205 GTI etc - less grown up than the 172 and the like.
So it's S reg worth £1,500? Wow, that's really making me wonder what's wrong with this £900 W-reg now :s
BadBanshee said:
I definitely want a 106 GTI, not a Saxo VTS. Looks better, plus the 106 comes across as more of an enthusiast's car. The VTS, more of a hoodie's car.
Given the fact that they're essentially the same car with a different badge on, that is a curious conclusion to jump to. I've already mentioned the Pug GTI-tax. They are of course rarer (and I don't think they were ever offered with free insurance, something that sold loads of hot Saxos). I prefer them based on looks. But you'd be silly to rule one out over the other simply because you think it's a hoodie's car.They've both had some fairly chequered pasts...
Though they're both good looking cars when they haven't been messed around with.
Ah, all this talk of these cars takes me back...
BadBanshee said:
Sounds great and I can't wait to own one.
So it's S reg worth £1,500? Wow, that's really making me wonder what's wrong with this £900 W-reg now :s
Is W post 2001? Obviously only a 1.6, but what does the tax cost when it's based on emissions? So it's S reg worth £1,500? Wow, that's really making me wonder what's wrong with this £900 W-reg now :s
£900 is very cheap, irrespective of year. Worth a look.
I've just set my heart on the Pug tbh. Insurance wise the Saxo is more expensive for me, so even if I went based on cost alone, the GTI would work out cheaper for me.
My Dad bought me a 206 when I was learning to drive. I ended up not passing my test until 3 years after, and by then my Dad had sold the 206 long before. That wasn't 3 years of trying, I'm not that awful a driver :P I gave up for 3 years when I went to uni. It broke my heart but I knew the reason behind my failing my tests (6 in total :P) was because I still needed to mature neurologically lol. I was right because I passed my test first time after I graduated. That's how I like to think of it, first timer
Anyway, in those months when I was first learning to drive I used to sit in the 206 in the garage and just imagine driving it. Sat in front of a steering wheel with that lion staring me in the face may have hypnotized me into preferring it over the twin arrows, but hey what's done is done!
My Dad bought me a 206 when I was learning to drive. I ended up not passing my test until 3 years after, and by then my Dad had sold the 206 long before. That wasn't 3 years of trying, I'm not that awful a driver :P I gave up for 3 years when I went to uni. It broke my heart but I knew the reason behind my failing my tests (6 in total :P) was because I still needed to mature neurologically lol. I was right because I passed my test first time after I graduated. That's how I like to think of it, first timer
Anyway, in those months when I was first learning to drive I used to sit in the 206 in the garage and just imagine driving it. Sat in front of a steering wheel with that lion staring me in the face may have hypnotized me into preferring it over the twin arrows, but hey what's done is done!pthelazyjourno said:
Is W post 2001? Obviously only a 1.6, but what does the tax cost when it's based on emissions?
£900 is very cheap, irrespective of year. Worth a look.
It says registered 2000 so a year or two younger than your previous S reg. Was it less than 120,000 miles?£900 is very cheap, irrespective of year. Worth a look.
I'm not sure about the tax. I'm expecting it to be over £200.
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