Thinking of getting 106 GTi. Final Tips & Advice?
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Baryonyx said:
Given the fact that they're essentially the same car with a different badge on, that is a curious conclusion to jump to. I've already mentioned the Pug GTI-tax. They are of course rarer (and I don't think they were ever offered with free insurance, something that sold loads of hot Saxos). I prefer them based on looks. But you'd be silly to rule one out over the other simply because you think it's a hoodie's car.
They've both had some fairly chequered pasts...
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I feel sorry for the cars! I don't see the fascination in hiding the wheels under the arches. I think arches that are close to the wheels look nice but if the gap between the wheel and the arch isn't equal all the way round it just looks messy! It must be causing tyre wear or even wall damage at that height aswell. I wonder if they do their research but don't care, or just don't do their research at all.They've both had some fairly chequered pasts...
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120k is only 10k a year...
Great cars, I've had 2 VTS' and a GTi, GTi is definitely more of an enthusiast car by name. Drive exactly the same as a VTS though.
If you get a VTS you spend half the time telling people they are exactly the same as a 106 GTI, most of them don't believe you
Any excuse to show some pics:
Peugeot 106 GTi by DanielJames., on Flickr
Great cars, I've had 2 VTS' and a GTi, GTi is definitely more of an enthusiast car by name. Drive exactly the same as a VTS though.
If you get a VTS you spend half the time telling people they are exactly the same as a 106 GTI, most of them don't believe you
Any excuse to show some pics:
Peugeot 106 GTi by DanielJames., on Flickr
Thanks Daniel. I'll keep it in mind when I go to view it.
I left a voicemail on the seller's phone earlier and he rung back saying he will call me back in a few hours to go through the service history with me. Gonna have a pen and paper to hand and jot down as much as I can and repost on here.
I left a voicemail on the seller's phone earlier and he rung back saying he will call me back in a few hours to go through the service history with me. Gonna have a pen and paper to hand and jot down as much as I can and repost on here.
Really wouldn't get too hung up on service history on any of these cars. It's only ever going to be of benefit if you had a low mileage one you were going to wrap up and keep until it was worth something....I reckon you could be waiting a long time!
I'd check for rot straight away. PSA cars are pretty good at resisting it overall, but if any of the underseal underneath is cracked, rot spreads really quickly. Check the chassis rails either side of the engine from underneath....not easy, but some MOT stations refuse to even attempt to weld them up as it's part of the crash structure (hehehe.....106 crash structure!).
Rear arm bearings wear, but if the car was cheap enough to budget in a replacement it wouldn't be the end of the world, as that's the only way you know it's done.
They chew PAS pumps, but they're pretty easy to change (pricey for new ones though). Cambelt isn't really a massive issue. I've had one snap on a VTS and it took about 12 valves with it, but the rest of the engine was fine. They're easy to do so garage labour shouldn't be too pricey.
Sunroofs are awful and leak for fun. You might find some that have been sealed up.
Check the syncros on the gearbox are strong, particularly 2nd and 3rd gear. It'll mean a bit of hard driving on the test drive and some quick changes up through 2nd and 3rd, but it's worth doing.
Rear calipers are crap, and usually go sticky. You'll know if the car has been stood for a while because the rear discs will have plenty of evidence of surface corrosion that the pads have failed to clear.
Airbag light will likely be flashing too. If it's not, it will as soon as you adjust the seat. Its an MOT fail now, too.
Of the Saxo and the 106, they are as has been mentioned, near identical cars. The 106 is the nicer of the two if the cars you're looking at are roughly the same price, but the Saxo is usually better value. 106 has nicer interior materials, like (one or two) soft-touch plastics and a leather steering wheel, but the dash looks more dated than the Saxo's.
The Saxo's got an unfair rep, which you kinda feel when you're driving one. But when you're in a VTS, theres not a lot that shows you a clean pair of heals A-B other than similar cars with similar images like Clios and Corsas, so the last laughs usually on them.
Overall I think I'd go for the 106 GTi if it wasn't silly money, which lots of them are. You can get good VTS' for £600-£700 now, so the 106 would need to be sub-£950 for me to consider one, because that £300odd saved will go a long way on one of these cars.
I'd check for rot straight away. PSA cars are pretty good at resisting it overall, but if any of the underseal underneath is cracked, rot spreads really quickly. Check the chassis rails either side of the engine from underneath....not easy, but some MOT stations refuse to even attempt to weld them up as it's part of the crash structure (hehehe.....106 crash structure!).
Rear arm bearings wear, but if the car was cheap enough to budget in a replacement it wouldn't be the end of the world, as that's the only way you know it's done.
They chew PAS pumps, but they're pretty easy to change (pricey for new ones though). Cambelt isn't really a massive issue. I've had one snap on a VTS and it took about 12 valves with it, but the rest of the engine was fine. They're easy to do so garage labour shouldn't be too pricey.
Sunroofs are awful and leak for fun. You might find some that have been sealed up.
Check the syncros on the gearbox are strong, particularly 2nd and 3rd gear. It'll mean a bit of hard driving on the test drive and some quick changes up through 2nd and 3rd, but it's worth doing.
Rear calipers are crap, and usually go sticky. You'll know if the car has been stood for a while because the rear discs will have plenty of evidence of surface corrosion that the pads have failed to clear.
Airbag light will likely be flashing too. If it's not, it will as soon as you adjust the seat. Its an MOT fail now, too.
Of the Saxo and the 106, they are as has been mentioned, near identical cars. The 106 is the nicer of the two if the cars you're looking at are roughly the same price, but the Saxo is usually better value. 106 has nicer interior materials, like (one or two) soft-touch plastics and a leather steering wheel, but the dash looks more dated than the Saxo's.
The Saxo's got an unfair rep, which you kinda feel when you're driving one. But when you're in a VTS, theres not a lot that shows you a clean pair of heals A-B other than similar cars with similar images like Clios and Corsas, so the last laughs usually on them.
Overall I think I'd go for the 106 GTi if it wasn't silly money, which lots of them are. You can get good VTS' for £600-£700 now, so the 106 would need to be sub-£950 for me to consider one, because that £300odd saved will go a long way on one of these cars.
obob said:
Take someone more experienced with you as you seem to be slightly scared.
This. Absolutely this.So much agonising and procrastination over buying a sub-£1k mainstream hatchback is not good. There's no point spending a month talking about it, while good cars are being sold every day.
Just search for buying guides (Honest John, Peugeot forums etc.) and get and drive it (and then do an HPI check if it seems good).
Dave200 said:
This. Absolutely this.
So much agonising and procrastination over buying a sub-£1k mainstream hatchback is not good. There's no point spending a month talking about it, while good cars are being sold every day.
Just search for buying guides (Honest John, Peugeot forums etc.) and get and drive it (and then do an HPI check if it seems good).
Do you realize this thread is 2 days old?So much agonising and procrastination over buying a sub-£1k mainstream hatchback is not good. There's no point spending a month talking about it, while good cars are being sold every day.
Just search for buying guides (Honest John, Peugeot forums etc.) and get and drive it (and then do an HPI check if it seems good).
BadBanshee said:
Dave200 said:
This. Absolutely this.
So much agonising and procrastination over buying a sub-£1k mainstream hatchback is not good. There's no point spending a month talking about it, while good cars are being sold every day.
Just search for buying guides (Honest John, Peugeot forums etc.) and get and drive it (and then do an HPI check if it seems good).
Do you realize this thread is 2 days old?So much agonising and procrastination over buying a sub-£1k mainstream hatchback is not good. There's no point spending a month talking about it, while good cars are being sold every day.
Just search for buying guides (Honest John, Peugeot forums etc.) and get and drive it (and then do an HPI check if it seems good).
FSH is not the be-all and end-all of used car buying. Not even slightly, and particularly not at this mileage and end of the market. If I were you, I would be looking for signs that the seller had taken care of the car, rather than serviced it as per the schedule.
In addition to the model-specific nuances, look for things like:
- Matching tyres (at least per 'axle'), with decent tread
- Well-kept interior and trim
- All electrical bits working
- Engine oil looks relatively clean/fresh (or not thick and black), and is at a decent level
- No untoward smoke or noises from the engine or gearbox
- Brakes have been looked-after (plenty of life in brakepads, and good feeling through the pedal)
All of this is absolutely critical to make sure you are buying the right car - however, crucially, FSH (especially with 2yr intervals) does not guarantee any of this.
Edited by Dave200 on Friday 7th December 14:02
Baryonyx said:
The first generation of Saxo was the best looking car, I think. Those angular headlights look better than the swoopy Peugeot ones or the blobby facelift ones.
Pretty sure that's a facelifted one of the Phase 1's. Earlier ones looked even better (IMHO and all things being relative)That's really taking old school to it's natural conclusion is that. Have to admire your spirit, but I prefer the more modern looking headlights of the phase 2 saxo and the 106.
This guy's taking time getting back to me with the service history... Probably because he's sold the car already :P
This guy's taking time getting back to me with the service history... Probably because he's sold the car already :P
As per a previous poster, I would not get too fussy about service history on a 15 year old Peugeot. As long as the cam belt has been done at some point and the fluids and filters a good few times I would be more concerned with the condition of the car and how it drives than what it says in the service book.
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