2009 Cadillac CTS-V

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007 VXR

64,187 posts

188 months

Friday 15th March 2013
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wormus said:
Your torque curve is a very interesting shape!
+1 scratchchin

Vixpy1

42,625 posts

265 months

Friday 15th March 2013
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007 VXR said:
wormus said:
Your torque curve is a very interesting shape!
+1 scratchchin
Part throttle .... Full throttle

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 15th March 2013
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Vixpy1 said:
Part throttle .... Full throttle
why?

Vixpy1

42,625 posts

265 months

Friday 15th March 2013
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wormus said:
Vixpy1 said:
Part throttle .... Full throttle
why?
First run, wanted to ease it in as the tyres were still cold.

minime68

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399 posts

136 months

Saturday 16th March 2013
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Yea still on a mild cam but I like it. But yea still running the stock internals. Wormus: yes it is interesting how we made the same bhp but different whp? Hmmmm

shalmaneser

5,936 posts

196 months

Saturday 16th March 2013
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gsd2000 said:
that is a mild cam
It's my understanding you don't want too much valve overlap on a boosted engine as the cylinder charge ends out being blown out of the exhaust valves.

007 VXR

64,187 posts

188 months

Saturday 16th March 2013
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shalmaneser said:
gsd2000 said:
that is a mild cam
It's my understanding you don't want too much valve overlap on a boosted engine as the cylinder charge ends out being blown out of the exhaust valves.
what would that feel like when driving/effect the engine?

Edited by 007 VXR on Saturday 16th March 12:17

minime68

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399 posts

136 months

Saturday 16th March 2013
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shalmaneser said:
It's my understanding you don't want too much valve overlap on a boosted engine as the cylinder charge ends out being blown out of the exhaust valves.
DING DING DING! You're right on to it. I could run more lift but I;m happy where its at. Trying to get some good runs in tomorrow at the pod. Today was all rain frown

*Al*

3,830 posts

223 months

Saturday 16th March 2013
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Awesome sound! redface

After_Shock

8,751 posts

221 months

Sunday 17th March 2013
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wormus said:
Mine's an LSA, same as yours but with ported LSA heads and a GT9 cam and a TVS2300. Spooky eh?

...My IATs are very good though. About 120 deg F.

Edited by wormus on Friday 15th March 20:53
Weird how your both getting almost the same results with an almost identical engine albeit different chargers!

If the 2300 is maxed out at this power how can the 1900 match it unless its being heavily over driven? Bit confused!!!

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 17th March 2013
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After_Shock said:
Weird how your both getting almost the same results with an almost identical engine albeit different chargers!

If the 2300 is maxed out at this power how can the 1900 match it unless its being heavily over driven? Bit confused!!!
Indeed although I have nice cool IATs and my blower is not overspun. Not quite sure how the 1900 is even close but it's a good number. The 1900 makes lots of low end torque (150lbs more than mine) but less at the top end. What boost are you running?

One other thing, mine measured 824hp on Peter Knight's engine dyno before it went into the car. Wouldn't read too much into the HP number, it only tells part of the story.

Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 17th March 08:58

After_Shock

8,751 posts

221 months

Sunday 17th March 2013
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wormus said:
Indeed although I have nice cool IATs and my blower is not overspun. Not quite sure how the 1900 is even close but it's a good number. The 1900 makes lots of low end torque (150lbs more than mine) but less at the top end. What boost are you running?

One other thing, mine measured 824hp on Peter Knight's engine dyno before it went into the car. Wouldn't read too much into the HP number, it only tells part of the story.

Edited by wormus on Sunday 17th March 08:58
So in theory your set up will give cooler temps and be more manageable lower in the rev range giving a similar power from the bigger charger. But could be overspun and pushed to a higher figure if you so desired?

The 1900 to get this power is running harder and hotter, 150lb's extra low down is a massive chunk to deal with however!

Both impressive results to the say the least regardless which way to look at it, interesting how to get the numbers from different set ups.

Otispunkmeyer

12,618 posts

156 months

Sunday 17th March 2013
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That sounds fking ballistic! Top effort man!

shalmaneser

5,936 posts

196 months

Sunday 17th March 2013
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007 VXR said:
what would that feel like when driving/effect the engine?

Edited by 007 VXR on Saturday 16th March 12:17
It would feel like it wasn't going fast enough.

minime68

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399 posts

136 months

Sunday 17th March 2013
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Yea I'm pullies down so I'm spinning is faster than factory. 16 psi through my custom exhaust. It can still be spun harder but with meth as IATs would climb. On the street, my IAT2s hover in the 70* Fahrenheit and shoot up to 117ish at the end of a WOT run. Yup, a 2.3 will work less to put out the same power and keep the temperatures lower. I know not to look into the dynos too much, they vary a bit. I did run an 11.5@126 yesterday on my first run at Santa pod. Pretty bad 60ft as I bogged. I wasn't able to make any corrections due to rain. Ill be stopping by on the 13th to get some decent runs and a more aggressive map.

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 17th March 2013
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minime68 said:
Yea I'm pullies down so I'm spinning is faster than factory. 16 psi through my custom exhaust. It can still be spun harder but with meth as IATs would climb. On the street, my IAT2s hover in the 70* Fahrenheit and shoot up to 117ish at the end of a WOT run. Yup, a 2.3 will work less to put out the same power and keep the temperatures lower. I know not to look into the dynos too much, they vary a bit. I did run an 11.5@126 yesterday on my first run at Santa pod. Pretty bad 60ft as I bogged. I wasn't able to make any corrections due to rain. Ill be stopping by on the 13th to get some decent runs and a more aggressive map.
Still sounds like you are having a great time and with a fairly stock motor too. I found last year an overspun TVS really lets itself down over the mile, I saw 200 deg F intake temps which isn't good, just turned into a heat pump. 11.5 sec isn't bad in such terrible weather!

minime68

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399 posts

136 months

Monday 18th March 2013
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200*? Damn dude. I do have a massive heat exchanger which helps a lot! I haven't ran the mile but haven't heard of anyone getting THAT hot. If my car ever got that hot I'd be running 3* timing. It's a given though, the smaller blower will create more heat just gotta fight back. That being said, I'd like to get out and run the mile. We're gonna go back in a couple weeks to Santa pod on a RWYB. Hopefully is dry this time smile

minime68

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399 posts

136 months

Monday 18th March 2013
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ukzz4iroc

3,228 posts

175 months

Monday 18th March 2013
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Brutal. Just brutal. Looks like a modern Grand National..

minime68

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399 posts

136 months

Monday 18th March 2013
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Yea that's basically what most people remember when talking about these. Speaking of GNs, I know someone selling a built one for about £10K in the area.