205 Shell, what to do?
Discussion
The c2evo worked out well I had it built for a year and never a problem iv pushed it hard and it handles spot on, not snappy as feared by many, the Norris desgins evo is as short wheel base with no problems, my floor pan and engine sat lower in the c2 than standard which was handy as I always thought c2's tended to be top heavy, the reason I used the floor pan and all evo bits rather than adapting the c2/205 was for strength as the evo was built a lot stronger than the c2/205 to handle the power for the hubs,brakes,driveshafts,pickup points etc and I didn't want a space framed car, anyways good luck with the build
Will
Will
As well as using the hubs as pickup points in the jig I used the subframe mounting points as well to be sure I got it square as the hubs are held to car via rubber bushes so could be bit of play in them, my friend had a ford focus rally car that was Subaru engine and running gear but that was done by converting the focus shell and it wasn't great with homemade pickup points for the suspension welded onto focus floor, no where near as good as using the full floor pan in my eyes, as I saw it I had nothing to loose cutting the cars up as if it didn't work out I would just sell it in parts and get my money back as you can do if it goes sour on you
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Max_Torque said:
mwstewart said:
This looks like a fun project. I would like to put forward a point of view if I may? I see a downside to this type of approach wherein the end result is essentially a SWB version - in drag - of the donor car. Though capable the Impreza isn't the last word in fun handling whereas arguably the original 205 is, so rather than transplant the Impreza suspension in its entirety could you perhaps figure a way to retain some of the fun factor from the 205? Would it be possible to retain the 205 front suspension, for example by shortening the Impreza shafts to suit and modifying the hubs to accept some larger bearings?
Another consideration is the wheelbase: the reduction in base will skew the Ackermann geometry of the original Impreza resulting in a potentially noticeable detrimental effect on handling. It may be easy enough to sort with some custom front hubs (if you keep the Impreza versions).
I am genuinely interested and look forward to seeing this develop!
Unfortunately, the reason an impreza is not a terrific handling car is because it has a high CofG and a poor mass distribution. Both of those factors will be even worse when transplanted into the (shorter) 205 shell.......Another consideration is the wheelbase: the reduction in base will skew the Ackermann geometry of the original Impreza resulting in a potentially noticeable detrimental effect on handling. It may be easy enough to sort with some custom front hubs (if you keep the Impreza versions).
I am genuinely interested and look forward to seeing this develop!
A V4 would be better setup with a lower crank. The heads stay in a similar position, they would just come in board slightly.
With the flat four the crank goes up higher and the heads outwards. It's not so great.
Compared to an I4 though, it has a lower COG.
I'm going to have to move the battery to the rear and get a big wing on there to help even things out.
With the flat four the crank goes up higher and the heads outwards. It's not so great.
Compared to an I4 though, it has a lower COG.
I'm going to have to move the battery to the rear and get a big wing on there to help even things out.
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