2002 E39 530i Sport

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sparks_E39

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12,738 posts

214 months

Saturday 20th July 2013
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New problem.... Nav is gone and screen has gone blue and all teletext like... erm, help!

Fox-

13,244 posts

247 months

Saturday 20th July 2013
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Your nav computer has for some reason stopped functioning. The TV tuner is now providing output to the monitor, hence the crappy graphics.

sparks_E39

Original Poster:

12,738 posts

214 months

Saturday 20th July 2013
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Fox- said:
Your nav computer has for some reason stopped functioning. The TV tuner is now providing output to the monitor, hence the crappy graphics.
Hmm... any ideas? Not keen on the retro look and although I don't use the sat nav much I'd like it to work!

sparks_E39

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12,738 posts

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Saturday 20th July 2013
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sparks_E39 said:
Fox- said:
Your nav computer has for some reason stopped functioning. The TV tuner is now providing output to the monitor, hence the crappy graphics.
Hmm... any ideas? Not keen on the retro look and although I don't use the sat nav much I'd like it to work!
I swore at it and it immediately started working again. I love E39's but they can be bloody odd sometimes...

sparks_E39

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12,738 posts

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Saturday 20th July 2013
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Can make and receive calls fine... pretty cool. Can do it without touching the phone at all which is awesome. Obviously old tech but I've never had that in a car before. Is there a way to play music through bluetooth?

E38Ross

35,126 posts

213 months

Saturday 20th July 2013
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sparks_E39 said:
sparks_E39 said:
Fox- said:
Your nav computer has for some reason stopped functioning. The TV tuner is now providing output to the monitor, hence the crappy graphics.
Hmm... any ideas? Not keen on the retro look and although I don't use the sat nav much I'd like it to work!
I swore at it and it immediately started working again. I love E39's but they can be bloody odd sometimes...
i had this happen on the E38....your nav unit is on its way out i'm afraid. I managed to get a replacement of a friendly chap for the princely sum of nothing. I never use sat nav but the, as you say, retro look to the text looks absolutely crap. that was about 15 months ago, maybe more, and i've not used the nav since!

Fox-

13,244 posts

247 months

Saturday 20th July 2013
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Amazed you guys never use it, one of my pre-flight-checks is to press the map button - every journey, as natural as putting on my seatbelt. I don't need it but I love having a nice big map in the dashboard.

Cemesis

771 posts

163 months

Sunday 21st July 2013
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So do I. Don't you guys ever go somewhere new and need navigation to get there?

Regarding music through bluetooth, very much no. Thats a fairly new development in cars.

Emeye

9,773 posts

224 months

Sunday 21st July 2013
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I've never had nav in any of my beemers, but my understanding was that if you wanted to get to the right place on time you'd be better off not using the BMW nav! My bro has it in his E39 Sport and uses tomtom n his iPhone instead!

Edited by Emeye on Sunday 21st July 12:31

broster

489 posts

178 months

Sunday 21st July 2013
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I had the mk4 nav in mine much better than the cd based version but no match for a tomtom.
I have a genuine BMW Bluetooth kit forsale for one of these if interested?

Cemesis

771 posts

163 months

Sunday 21st July 2013
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Emeye said:
I've never had nav in any of my beepers, but my understanding was that if you wanted to get to the right place on time you'd be better off not using the BMW nav! My bro has it in his E39 Sport and uses tomtom n his iPhone instead!
I've heard this before but I totally disagree. The MK4 Nav is very good. I have a 2012 Skoda Superb with the Columbus unit in it (which is an RNS510 fitted to the VW's). Its touch screen, bluetooth streaming, vivid colour display etc etc. Its slower than the MK4 in the BMW and less acurate, the voice recognition doesn't work at all and I don't find it as intuative.

The BMW unit might look dated but it works very well and if you have the phone as well it all integrated nicely. You can use voice recognition to select hotels or restaurants and then phone them from the car with their number (which is stored on the Nav). Running through the underground road system in Brussels, the TomTom I had with me had no idea where I was but the BMW (which uses the wheel speed sensors as well as the GPS) knew exactly where I was.

Fox-

13,244 posts

247 months

Sunday 21st July 2013
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broster said:
I have a genuine BMW Bluetooth kit forsale for one of these if interested?
What is it you've got? There wasn't a genuine BMW 'kit' - only the Bluetooth Telephone Prepartion which wasn't a kit, it was fully wired into the car and requires a different loom etc to be fitted to a car without it.

E38Ross

35,126 posts

213 months

Sunday 21st July 2013
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Fox- said:
Amazed you guys never use it, one of my pre-flight-checks is to press the map button - every journey, as natural as putting on my seatbelt. I don't need it but I love having a nice big map in the dashboard.
If I need sat nav the Google navigation on my Samsung galaxy s3 is much better.

sparks_E39

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12,738 posts

214 months

Sunday 21st July 2013
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E38Ross said:
i had this happen on the E38....your nav unit is on its way out i'm afraid. I managed to get a replacement of a friendly chap for the princely sum of nothing. I never use sat nav but the, as you say, retro look to the text looks absolutely crap. that was about 15 months ago, maybe more, and i've not used the nav since!
Hmm I've read on the Internet that they do that then can be fine for years. If I were to replace it is there something better I can put in that retains an OEM look and I can still reset consumption figures etc?

Fox-

13,244 posts

247 months

Sunday 21st July 2013
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E38Ross said:
If I need sat nav the Google navigation on my Samsung galaxy s3 is much better.
But then you need to faff about sticking it on the windscreen. No thanks.

Fox-

13,244 posts

247 months

Sunday 21st July 2013
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sparks_E39 said:
Hmm I've read on the Internet that they do that then can be fine for years. If I were to replace it is there something better I can put in that retains an OEM look and I can still reset consumption figures etc?
I went for a Dynavin unit which retains the OEM look but it won't allow you to reset the consumption figures. As a non nav fitted car originally, mine had Low OBC so it didn't affect it. You'll be able to continue to use the computer functionality controlled via the stalk but thats it.

broster

489 posts

178 months

Sunday 21st July 2013
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Fox- said:
What is it you've got? There wasn't a genuine BMW 'kit' - only the Bluetooth Telephone Prepartion which wasn't a kit, it was fully wired into the car and requires a different loom etc to be fitted to a car without it.
Sorry, being more precise, on cars which have phone prep (v50 or whatever) you can upgrade to a Bluetooth kit relitavly easily, I did this in my car, this is the kit I have, made up of all genuine BMW parts. Fully intergrated to the screen and steering controls

sparks_E39

Original Poster:

12,738 posts

214 months

Sunday 21st July 2013
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Fox- said:
I went for a Dynavin unit which retains the OEM look but it won't allow you to reset the consumption figures. As a non nav fitted car originally, mine had Low OBC so it didn't affect it. You'll be able to continue to use the computer functionality controlled via the stalk but thats it.
Oh that's a shame, I don't want to lose that feature. I wouldn't mind having low OBC. I don't get why I need a stopwatch/timer etc. The 528 also had it.

S3_Graham

12,830 posts

200 months

Monday 22nd July 2013
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sparks_E39 said:
Fox- said:
I went for a Dynavin unit which retains the OEM look but it won't allow you to reset the consumption figures. As a non nav fitted car originally, mine had Low OBC so it didn't affect it. You'll be able to continue to use the computer functionality controlled via the stalk but thats it.
Oh that's a shame, I don't want to lose that feature. I wouldn't mind having low OBC. I don't get why I need a stopwatch/timer etc. The 528 also had it.
Sparks, Mine broke at the start of the year. If you need to get it fixed I know a guy. The problem with mine was the mech. I had the mech replaced, the software updated (3d maps and postcodes) and a new 2012 maps disc with speed cameras shown. £220 and took 3 days. Real nice chatty guy.

Much better than buying an unknown unit for the £3-400 they go on ebay.

Ref playing music, you cant via bluetooth but there is a lead you can buy that plugs into the AV unit (£25)and runs out to a red/white/yellow cable which you can then buy an apple lead (£30) that plugs into that and Bingo! video/music on the AV/TV part of your screen.

Not done mine yet but planning to, check out the MWstewert thread about E46 M3 in readers rides, he has fitted one.

sparks_E39

Original Poster:

12,738 posts

214 months

Monday 22nd July 2013
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S3_Graham said:
Sparks, Mine broke at the start of the year. If you need to get it fixed I know a guy. The problem with mine was the mech. I had the mech replaced, the software updated (3d maps and postcodes) and a new 2012 maps disc with speed cameras shown. £220 and took 3 days. Real nice chatty guy.

Much better than buying an unknown unit for the £3-400 they go on ebay.

Ref playing music, you cant via bluetooth but there is a lead you can buy that plugs into the AV unit (£25)and runs out to a red/white/yellow cable which you can then buy an apple lead (£30) that plugs into that and Bingo! video/music on the AV/TV part of your screen.

Not done mine yet but planning to, check out the MWstewert thread about E46 M3 in readers rides, he has fitted one.
Thanks Graham I'll keep that in mind. It's gone away for two days for some rust repair. I've also decided to have the front end resprayed. Well the bumper and bonnet anyway. Then a wheel refurb. That can all wait until the new year though, I didn't fancy putting the rust through another winter.