Czech out my FIRST CAR!

Czech out my FIRST CAR!

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aspirated

2,539 posts

147 months

Saturday 17th May 2014
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TorqueR said:
Thank you Adam.

NX51 is currently on steelies (as per the last picture) but as it is plastered in dirt/road grime, it does, in a strange way, suit that appearance - in my opinion. I think the novelty will soon wear off so I have already got some replacement trims from eBay - they should be on early next week and are being delivered from Italy of all places. My local dealer (Gordan Lamb Skoda) quoted £85.00 for them!
Cable ties this time! And carry a few cable ties spare in the boot plus a Stanley knife in case of puncture smile

TorqueR

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1,767 posts

133 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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It has been a good two months or so since the last update - time flies when your having fun....or does it?!

At the beginning of June, NX51 was the chariot of choice for a road trip to Wales and it took the weekend and 600+ miles without any issues. Quite impressive when you consider I had three passengers (plus me) and all the associated luggage for a weekend away. I took the boring m/way route on the way down with the intention of exploring the interesting roads on the way back. Without boring you with every eventuality of the weekend, I will just sum it by saying that NX51 really did impress me - it was fully loaded with passengers and luggage for 95% of the weekend, cruised at 70mph for hours without complaint while returning 52mpg - once in Wales (near Swansea & the Brecon Beacons) the roads were getting ever steeper and the driving standard were getting better.
I don't know if I experienced the norm but even without trying (I was on an unfamiliar road, at night, with a car full) I gained on a Vauxhall who was content at doing 40mph on a NSL lane. As I gained, he indicated and moved to the edge of the lane to allow be a better view of the road ahead. I glanced at the TomTom for any upcoming junctions or turns (to which there weren't any) and overtook. I thought I may have been fortunate and a decent driver was ahead of me but the theme prevailed throughout the weekend. All in all, it was a great road trip where my little Skoda proved to be a great steer.

My official Team HEKO wind deflectors, along with my new TomTom also came on the day of the road trip. You gotta love it when a plan comes together.

It was only after the trip to Wales that my praise for NX51 started to diminish as my wind deflectors were stolen two weeks after our trip to Wales, leaving a small amount of damage behind. The known fault ( link) with regards to the PAS has reared its head causing the inconsistent steering and occasional power steering loss that you may have heard about. The brakes aren't as good as they once were and the pedal doesn't offer the feedback which I have come to expect. I feel as though the brakes are the priority at the moment so I have booked it into a trusted garage this week.

It may seem a lot of trouble but brakes are consumables and the PAS is a known fault with this era of Fabia. I am just a car bore that likes a car to be running 100% right. At the end of the day, it is a thirteen year old, boring hatchback where the previous owners probably viewed it as such - apart from consumables, it hasn't asked for anything in my ownership, just annoying that the events happened in a short space of time. At one moment, I wanted to get rid but gave it a wash 'n' polish and now like it again. hehe

My insurance expires in Sept '14 and I should gain my one-years no claims bonus so I have been eyeing up potential replacements but nothing really stands out at the moment - a Clio 182 would be nice but being realistic, most of my driving is commuting so would it become tiresome in town?! A Suzuki Swift Sport would be okay but mixed reports and my initial impressions leave me undecided. Do I want a hatchback? The Citroen C2 Code is a great car but isn't exactly exciting or revolutionary, is it? It may look a bit dated now as well. I think it will be early/mid-2015 before me and NX51 part ways.

Here are a few photos - notice the OEM trims return! nerd







Here is proof that you can polish a turd. wink

melvster

6,841 posts

186 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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Nice write up James; it looks pretty mint considering its age. Shame some toerag stole your deflectors.

I would try a 182 and see if you like it, my only real criticism of that era of Clio is the slightly lofty driving position and the gear change; IMO its very porridge like however a popular mod called the "dogbone mount" can cure this. I don't think it would be a tiresome car to drive on a daily basis, i am starting to pile the miles on mine now with visits to clients in the east midlands and it feels perfectly fine on the motorway and A50. Quick search throws up a nice low mileage tidy example.

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/r...

Drive one and see what you think.

TorqueR

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1,767 posts

133 months

Monday 25th August 2014
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Had an impromptu photo-shoot opportunity present itself on Friday, in the glamorous surroundings of...Tesco! Why yes, there is a PH'er who does not shop at Waitrose! eek

As you can see from the image, I parked alongside another Fabia of similar vintage to mine and is actually an example that I spot quite often. The white wheels are obviously the first thing that draws your attention but if you stand back, you notice the subtle adaptations such as the black grille surround, the different badge etc. If you have studied the photo in more detail, did you see the lighter interior?! The photo was primarily taken to show a friend who takes an interest in modifications but it also is a great aid to assist in relating the brief experience I had.

...when I got back to my car, the Fabia was still there and the owner was now present. I put the bags in the back and saw that he was looking at my car. I put the window down and said that I liked his light interior (I genuinely do) and that started a brief discussion about this era of VAG's, local roads and also the modifications that he is planning to do or has already done. It was nice to actually speak to him, after seeing him countless times in the local area!

My road tax runs out at the end of this month so I have got another six months at the sum of £115. Stupid emissions, eh! My managers '12 Mini Cooper S JCW is cheaper to tax, for example.

I have no immediate plans for NX51 (due to going on holiday in October) but when I return I shall address the smaller details to get it A1 again....or start looking at another car. I shall leave you with one last photo;


TorqueR

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1,767 posts

133 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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It seems like I was picking this car up just yesterday but in reality, yesterday was the day of my insurance renewal so I have officially got 1yrs NCB now. I was pleasantly surprised with the quote but I imagine 69bhp doesn't pose too much danger in a safe postcode.

I also noticed that my front tyres were wearing at a noticeable rate a month or two ago. I kept an eye on them and tried to make them last until later this year so that I have fresh tyres for the winter but it wasn't to be. I took it to my trusted tyre garage and we agreed upon two new front tyres and as I wanted all four tyres matching, I resisted the urge to get some Toyo Proxies and got the same economy tyres as I previously had - the back tyres are barely worn.

It makes me question whether the tracking is out but I got to the garage just before they were closing for the day so couldn't get an alignment check. That shall have to wait for another day.

Edited by TorqueR on Saturday 14th March 22:41

Petrolhead95

7,043 posts

155 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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TorqueR said:
Insurance - Yesterday was my insurance renewal so I have officially got 1yrs NCB. biggrin
The day I'm waiting for, then I can finally upgrade!

TorqueR

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1,767 posts

133 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2014
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Petrolhead95 said:
The day I'm waiting for, then I can finally upgrade!
That was my plan all along but a combination of being undecided on what car I want and a holiday made me soldier on with NX51.

I still plan to change the Skoda early next year which will be a nice way to celebrate having my licence for two years!

melvster

6,841 posts

186 months

Thursday 4th September 2014
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Still thinking of a Clio Trophy ??

MC Bodge

21,650 posts

176 months

Wednesday 10th September 2014
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TorqueR said:
I took it to my trusted tyre garage and we agreed upon two new front tyres and as I wanted all four tyres matching, I resisted the urge to get some Toyo Proxies and got the same economy tyres as I previously had - the back tyres are barely worn
Why not buy 4 Toyos?

FWIW, my wife's Mk1 Fabia had (Nexen) ditchfinders on the front. It under-steered for Lancashire. It was awful.

Fitting 4 x Uniroyal Rainsports improved the wet and dry handling massively.

TorqueR

Original Poster:

1,767 posts

133 months

Saturday 13th December 2014
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melvster said:
Still thinking of a Clio Trophy ??
Although I still adore the car I doubt I would enjoy it on a day-to-day basis with my current commute and wouldn't benefit from the development that the engineers spent time to fine tune. With just a few hundred examples floating about I would hate to think that I have one and using it for daily duties if there is an enthusiast who could enjoy it more of the time. Add to that the nice examples don't stay on the market for long and I question the higher mileage ones at the lower end of the scale as I question the condition of the dampers and overall state, if that makes sense.

MC Bodge said:
Why not buy 4 Toyos?

FWIW, my wife's Mk1 Fabia had (Nexen) ditchfinders on the front. It under-steered for Lancashire. It was awful.
No other reason other than to save money for the (then) upcoming holiday - see below. I believe I mentioned that when I first got NX51, it had budget tyres on and I experienced understeer on occasion. They were then changed for the Hankook tyres which grip better but as this week has shown, they dislike the colder and icier weather.
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Evening, it has been a while since I have updated this thread, partly because I have been so busy but also because there isn't a huge amount to report.

NX51 now sits at just shy of 71,200 miles so if you have followed this thread from the start, you will notice that my mileage has reduced dramatically in the recent months - I believe I have done just over 1,000 miles since Sept. The lack of miles doesn't reflect my thoughts on the car, it isn't that I dislike driving it but rather, my office is now just 1.8 miles away and I spent the majority of October in the USA.



If your interested, my thoughts were that the Chevrolet Equinox was underpowered (2.2 auto, 180bhp, 4WD) for the size of the car. If you were able to spec it with a V6, it would be much better because this range topping example (LTZ) had some nice touches, albeit enclosed around a plastic interior. The Ford Escape (or Kuga in the UK) had a smoother automatic gearbox and is the rental that I preferred but had limited options. They were both great companions to have in and my family covered just over 2,000 miles between them in 2.5 weeks!


Upon returning from the USA, I attempted to get to the bottom of the power steering issue that plague the majority of MY01-07 Skoda Fabia's. It is a known issue with a wealth of knowledge on the subject if you look at extensive thread on briskoda. In an attempt to summarise NX51 being away at the garage for three days, I still haven't got the bottom of the issue. I have a theory on what the solution may be but have been procrastinating and still haven't bought the item. In my experience, it is fine until you need to do a lot of steering input lock-to-lock (example: turn in the road) and if the steering does get heavier, it isn't as bad as some may lead you to believe and is not a daily occurrence.

Anything else to report? The tyres dislike the cold and icy weather which we (derbyshire) are experiencing and without any noticeable traction control, you can get the wheels to spin on a partial throttle. Also, last night I noticed that my number plate bulb had gone so nipped to the motor factors after work to get some a replacement. The pack had two inside so I decided to change both of them and see which goes first.

Lastly, my Dad surprised me with some replacement wind deflectors (Team HEKO) after the others were stolen a month or two back (discussed in a previous entry) and these have stayed on the car longer than the last set so all is good.



Photo taken this afternoon, after a quick wash.

Edited by TorqueR on Saturday 14th March 22:44

samj2014

554 posts

113 months

Saturday 13th December 2014
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Nice car - I bought one of these as my first motor about the same time as you did, same engine, but comfort trim level. Great little car it was, seemed to handle well, though I didn't have much to compare to, and had just enough power. As you say, they are very cheap to insure too. I'd only passed my test a few days previous, and got insurance for £900 for the year, at 22 years of age. Much cheaper than anything else I could find

I decided I wanted something bigger though, and when insurance renewal time came around, got myself an Octavia 1.9 tdi, 110bhp. It feels a little more ungainly on really tight roads (that's probably just my driving), but the extra power and torque make it so much more drivable! Insurance on this is pretty good too, I'm paying £850 for it, and that's with the suspension mods by the previous owner declared. Would have been about £500 otherwise.

One thing I've noticed are your fuel consumption claims, are you reading them off the trip computer? If so, I'll be willing to bet my left testicle that it's way out. They're rarely ever right. I worked mine out brim to brim once, long motorway journey from north wales to herefordshire and back, doing 65-70mph ish all the way there and back. Trip computer claimed 55mpg, worked it out when I got back to be more like 35mpg. Trip to scotland with two bikes on the back and car full of kit returned 27mpg I think. 35 was the best I ever managed, I doubt you're doing much above that, those 1.4 mpi engines are realllllly inefficient, hence the high tax. My octavia is only £130 a year to tax, to give you some idea.

Also, regarding the engine conversation earlier in the thread, the VW engine in the polo - the 1.4 16v 100bhp, that was the german one, they were available in this car. However, the 1.4 8v, as someone rightly pointed out, is the same as the 1.3 czech engine in the felicia, bored out to 1.4. Nowt wrong with it, super reliable, as you've discovered, mine was too, but crap on fuel and not a lot of power. Pretty sure the 1.9D that someone else mentioned also is the same engine being used now, again bored out to 2l (not even bored out in my car) and with the addition of a turbo.

As for the PAS problem - sounds like the angle sensor?

Anyway, sorry for rambling on. Hope you don't mind me sticking a couple of photos on here.

My old Furby:



And my lovely Octy



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Edited by samj2014 on Saturday 13th December 20:28

TorqueR

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1,767 posts

133 months

Tuesday 16th December 2014
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Thank you for the comments and pictures, they are most welcome. I agree with you, it has proven to be a great first car which has, like you say, just enough power to keep up with traffic. I have recently been in much faster cars and I can still derive enjoyment from NX51.

I was surprised to read about your low economy figures. I do not have a trip computer that calculates your average MPG (due to having a measly Classic example) so I have to rely on basic napkin mathematics but on multiple long journeys it is possible to get around 450 miles from one tank. I am getting around 300 miles from just going around the houses with the odd blast.

I am not doubting you by any means but I personally haven't seen the low figures which you have reported - obviously there are a variety of variables that will effect the economy. I will most likely need to fill up later this week or early next week so I will the receipt and reset the trip in order to see what range it returns and do my trusty napkin calculations at the next fuel stop thereafter to see the results.

Fun Bus

17,911 posts

219 months

Tuesday 16th December 2014
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I use the Road Trip Lite app for keeping track of mpg and other fuel stats.

samj2014

554 posts

113 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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Really? Wow, in that case I'm impressed. I'm a frequent poster on Briskoda, and from what I've read on there, around 30-35mpg is to be expected from the 1.4mpi engine. Perhaps you just got a really good one?! haha. Mine probably was't running in tip-top shape in fairness, it had a bit of a misfire.
I easily get 50+ from the octy smile

Edited by samj2014 on Wednesday 17th December 02:18

TorqueR

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1,767 posts

133 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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Fun Bus said:
I use the Road Trip Lite app for keeping track of mpg and other fuel stats.
My phone is nearly up to capacity due to the number of photos and songs that I have on it. It may not have enough space for another app. hehe

samj2014 said:
Really? Wow, in that case I'm impressed. I'm a frequent poster on Briskoda, and from what I've read on there, around 30-35mpg is to be expected from the 1.4mpi engine. Perhaps you just got a really good one?! haha. Mine probably was't running in tip-top shape in fairness, it had a bit of a misfire.
I easily get 50+ from the octy smile

Edited by samj2014 on Wednesday 17th December 02:18
I am under no illusion that the engine is outdated and isn't very efficient but I personally think that other factors played a negative effect for you - such as the bikes causing drag, misfire etc. My best (or worst, depending on your vantage point) was a lowly 26mpg and that was commuting around town doing multiple short trips.

samj2014

554 posts

113 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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Oh yeah, no doubt the bikes played a factor there, the car had a lot of weight in it for that trip. It seemed to do better on A-roads rather than motorways. I think it's just not geared right for doing 70mph efficiently.

TorqueR

Original Poster:

1,767 posts

133 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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I recall the old saying of "time flies when you are having fun..." because it has been another month since the last update. Is that statement true with NX51?

A car (in my opinion) as an entity is the epitome of independence and if a car can compliment your lifestyle, allowing you to carry on with your life, without fuss and whatever the weather, it is a good car in my books. If a car is capable of doing that, then it gains my respect and I am happy to report that NX51 has proven itself by doing just that.

I am fortunate that I live within a mile or two from the Peak District and that, by extension, means that during winter, we have a greater probability of seeing that cold, white weather that dominates the usual media outlets. This past week has been especially exciting with 1ft of snow falling in some places nearby - on Thursday - and my car (as hinted to earlier) gained massive respect from me by allowing me to carry on with my life as per usual in such conditions. The basic setup of FWD, narrow tyres and low weight all point towards a competent snow hack but nonetheless, it is still impressive the first time you experience it.



While staying on the subject of snow, it leads me onto another subject, the demise of my PH sticker. It would appear that in prolonged temperatures below 0c, the adhesive isn't as good and as a result, may cause some parts to slide off with the snow. A big shout out to PH'er Viper who noticed the problem and generously sent me a replacement sticker out in a prompt manner FREE of charge. Again, thank you.



Edited by TorqueR on Saturday 14th March 22:46

TorqueR

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1,767 posts

133 months

Wednesday 4th February 2015
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Evening,

We have another day, another update. However, this isn't about my example. It actually refers to the WhatCar COTY 2015 - the brand-new Skoda Fabia. Now, I feel as though the award is a bit premature to say the least (for obvious reasons) but this update shan't argue that specific point. It is rather a place that allows me to write down my initial impressions after seeing in the flesh. See photos below;





My initial thoughts are largely positive. As the owner of a Mk1 example I am a fan of the square stance that it has and while the Mk2 (and 2.5) weren't to my taste aesthetically, I am pleased that SKODA have returned to the square and simple look. It isn't a daring design by any stretch but the clean lines and small dimensions really suit it - if I were to say anything untoward about the design, it would be the front headlight and grille cluster being too anonymous.

I had a brief look at the interior and the good news continues. The gear knob looks short and stubby which is similar to the Mk1 non-vRS examples and the multi-function steering wheel doesn't look like a parts bin special. I'm not going to spout the motoring journalist cliche of comparing the scratchiness of plastics but from a brief glance, the dash doesn't look too dissimilar to the Citroen DS3 and doesn't have a large button tally....take that how you wish. It had an infotainment system built in the centre console but that may be just a large display or it may have sat-nav capabilities too - not sure. It had alloys, rear parking sensor(s) and the screen so it could be a basic trim level which has been spec'd with the nice options or the more logical way would be to demonstrate the range topping example as it didn't have any advertisement telling us the price nor trim level. The little badge on earlier Fabia's (situated on both front wings) has also since disappeared.

A gentleman pulled up nearby in a brand new Octavia and with his Skoda branded jacket, making his way towards me. After a few pleasantries and a diminishing lunch break, it was my cue to leave. I am a little tempted to detour to the dealership this weekend to see whether a test-drive would be possible - I have no intention of buying one but as an owner of a Mk1, I am curious too see what it is like.

Disclaimer; I doubt I will go for a test-drive, I wouldn't be a tyre kicker and waste the time of a salesman who is probably busy on a weekend.

TorqueR

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1,767 posts

133 months

Saturday 14th March 2015
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Evening,

I feel that another update is due to explain my thoughts on NX51 and potential thoughts with regards to buying something else...but first, allow me to tell you a story. 

If you have seen my profile, you may have noticed that last week, I was able to celebrate having my driving licence for two years. Question is, how would one celebrate? Well, the original plan was to get a new car but y'know, with the MOT due in two weeks time a private buyer would be (quite rightly) hesitant and it would need to be reflected in the price. It would be the same story if I were to trade it in at a garage against another car. If I am being realistic, waiting until after the MOT will be wise as I have more options. I'm also still unsure on what I want.

I'm not the sort to be discouraged and while I wouldn't celebrate every year, I feel that the two-year anniversary is special and noteworthy due to the restrictions on your licence being eased with regards to penalty points.

As I said, the new car isn't viable at the moment which left me with few options, so I opted to go for a drive. I didn't want to go down my usual route because if it becomes the default run whenever I go on a drive, it wouldn't excite or challenge you anymore. Anybody agree? 

In the end, I chose to plot a new route that would incorporate some local country roads that for whatever reason, I hadn't driven yet. It was a great idea but when I woke up that morning, my enthusiasm waivered because when I saw it sitting in the sunshine, it looked a right mess because of the previous weeks road grime and my thoughts turned to wash and polishing it....but then I thought; "A car is to be driven, not a driveway ornament" so with that, I commited one of a car enthusiast's worst sin and drove to the nearest car wash and y'know what, paid to have my car scratched. My justification was that a car wash wouldn't exactly devalue a 14y/o Skoda. It also meant that it was a first for me, which as you will see, is the ethos that continues throughout the day. 

When the car was duly scratched, I was able to start the drive and get it all dirty again. My route consisted of driving down narrow country lanes in and around Bakewell, Matlock, Darley Dale, Chatsworth, Ashbourne and other nearby areas. It was a nice route which consisted of steep hairpins, steep hills, crests and dips, fast corners, sharp corners, loose surfaces, sudden camber changes and stunning scenery. It was a very enjoyable drive which tested your observation skills and in parts, displays weaknesses in your car as I have since picked up an annoying dash rattle.

In the afternoon, a few friends and I went down to Donington to have a look around the museum which was another first for me. My mate who was driving has a Alfa Romeo MiTo SBK which has the 1.4T and 170bhp engine which I believe is the unit that is found in the Abarth 500 EsseEsse but I am happy to be proved wrong. 
I find that my mates Alfa makes you feel special, with just 200 examples of the SBK Edition worldwide (just 20-odd in the UK) you can derive much delight in being the rarest car in any given car park. I shan't go into too much detail as it isn't a thread about a MiTo but if you care to learn more about what differentiates a regular MiTo to the SBK, I am sure Google will be able to assist.

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Chim

7,259 posts

178 months

Sunday 15th March 2015
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TorqueR said:
Evening,

I feel that another update is due to explain my thoughts on NX51 and potential thoughts with regards to buying something else...but first, allow me to tell you a story. 

If you have seen my profile, you may have noticed that last week, I was able to celebrate having my driving licence for two years. Question is, how would one celebrate? Well, the original plan was to get a new car but y'know, with the MOT due in two weeks time a private buyer would be (quite rightly) hesitant and it would need to be reflected in the price. It would be the same story if I were to trade it in at a garage against another car. If I am being realistic, waiting until after the MOT will be wise as I have more options. I'm also still unsure on what I want.

I'm not the sort to be discouraged and while I wouldn't celebrate every year, I feel that the two-year anniversary is special and noteworthy due to the restrictions on your licence being eased with regards to penalty points.

As I said, the new car isn't viable at the moment which left me with few options, so I opted to go for a drive. I didn't want to go down my usual route because if it becomes the default run whenever I go on a drive, it wouldn't excite or challenge you anymore. Anybody agree? 

In the end, I chose to plot a new route that would incorporate some local country roads that for whatever reason, I hadn't driven yet. It was a great idea but when I woke up that morning, my enthusiasm waivered because when I saw it sitting in the sunshine, it looked a right mess because of the previous weeks road grime and my thoughts turned to wash and polishing it....but then I thought; "A car is to be driven, not a driveway ornament" so with that, I commited one of a car enthusiast's worst sin and drove to the nearest car wash and y'know what, paid to have my car scratched. My justification was that a car wash wouldn't exactly devalue a 14y/o Skoda. It also meant that it was a first for me, which as you will see, is the ethos that continues throughout the day. 

When the car was duly scratched, I was able to start the drive and get it all dirty again. My route consisted of driving down narrow country lanes in and around Bakewell, Matlock, Darley Dale, Chatsworth, Ashbourne and other nearby areas. It was a nice route which consisted of steep hairpins, steep hills, crests and dips, fast corners, sharp corners, loose surfaces, sudden camber changes and stunning scenery. It was a very enjoyable drive which tested your observation skills and in parts, displays weaknesses in your car as I have since picked up an annoying dash rattle.

In the afternoon, a few friends and I went down to Donington to have a look around the museum which was another first for me. My mate who was driving has a Alfa Romeo MiTo SBK which has the 1.4T and 170bhp engine which I believe is the unit that is found in the Abarth 500 EsseEsse but I am happy to be proved wrong. 
I find that my mates Alfa makes you feel special, with just 200 examples of the SBK Edition worldwide (just 20-odd in the UK) you can derive much delight in being the rarest car in any given car park. I shan't go into too much detail as it isn't a thread about a MiTo but if you care to learn more about what differentiates a regular MiTo to the SBK, I am sure Google will be able to assist.

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