Crikey! It (used to be) the Rozzers. 330d

Crikey! It (used to be) the Rozzers. 330d

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carinaman

21,291 posts

172 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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Neil.D said:
Eighteeteewhy said:
Do Tazera/Stun Guns have to be kept on charge?
No. Battery is just changed periodically.
That's not what I'd heard so I checked:

http://highdesertprotection.com/taser-m-series-cha...

I guess it depends on what Taser is in use and HO approved? I'd heard that they were placed on charge once back at the station, not charged in vehicle.

Greendubber

13,206 posts

203 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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carinaman said:
That's not what I'd heard so I checked:

http://highdesertprotection.com/taser-m-series-cha...

I guess it depends on what Taser is in use and HO approved? I'd heard that they were placed on charge once back at the station, not charged in vehicle.
X26 is the one used here and that has a DPM (digital power magazine) that is replaced when it runs down so no charging overnight required. We run ours down to 10% and then change them, the ones taken out get used for training until they stop working.


carinaman

21,291 posts

172 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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Greendubber said:
X26 is the one used here and that has a DPM (digital power magazine) that is replaced when it runs down so no charging overnight required. We run ours down to 10% and then change them, the ones taken out get used for training until they stop working.
Thanks Greendubber. I'm now wondering what that officer was on about. Perhaps we got our thin, breakable copper wires crossed.

So if someone gets zapped during a training demonstration they're only getting 10% of the full whack? Where's the fun in that?

Edited by carinaman on Wednesday 30th July 14:55

Greendubber

13,206 posts

203 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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carinaman said:
Thanks Greendubber. I'm now wondering what that officer was on about. Perhaps we got our thin, breakable copper wires crossed.

So if someone gets zapped during a training demonstration they're only getting 10% of the full whack? Where's the fun in that?

Edited by carinaman on Wednesday 30th July 14:55
They could have been referring to the old style tasers, X26 has been in use for a long while now though.

Even with the DPM at 10% it'll still deliver the same power as one at 100%. They either work or don't unlike other battery powered items that slow down as they run out of charge. The last thing you want is it to deliver a weak cycle as there's no room for half measures.

And as for getting a zap in training..been there done that and it's no fun (apart from when it happens to someone else)

...back on topic...

carinaman

21,291 posts

172 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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Greendubber said:
...back on topic...
Two batteries are nice. A bit of weight distribution evening out having that other one in the boot. I'd rather something non-conductive was used instead of that upturned metal bowl between the battery clamp and battery.

Con93

6 posts

119 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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If it's any reassurance, nearly every Cleveland/Durham police car i've worked on has been looked after no questions asked. Always genuine parts and always at correct intervals, if not before. Even with bigger jobs like clutch changes they were always willing to replace every part we recommended, without any hassle at all. Hope all goes well for you!

Megaflow

9,405 posts

225 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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A lot of manufacturers build police spec cars now and Police spec doesn't mean more power or uprated suspension. Normally they are the most powerful engine, with the basic interior and the wiring & second for all the extra kit they run, sometimes they have bigger brakes off bigger models to cope with being fully loaded all the time. Police spec V70's have front discs off the XC90 for example. I'd guess a traffic car and an ARV are actually the same thing as far as the manufacturer is concerned, hence weapon lock.

H100S

1,436 posts

173 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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My work involves considerable interaction with Police workshops, despite the fact these cars are maintained well always get what they need and are repaired to a very high standard by qualified people generally using manufacturer trained people I would not touch one with a barge pole.

Police cars are very simply a tool for the job. They get a very hard time, most have had panel damage at some point. the drive train get seriously abused. Gearboxes take loads of hammer, driving styles vary massively none of which are sympathetic. Engines, particularly pursuit cars sit at idle for excessive periods of time generating huge temperatures in the process. Wiring looms are often cut to integrate the additional equipment, this is often a area of poor reliability once removed.

Over rev codes are present on most to, just this week I saw a vehicle with 19 over rev codes in third gear.

If the vehicle was at the right price then I do understand the appeal particularly if you are handy with a spanner so can keep the bills down but approach with caution many of these cars have a very hard life.

Helicopter123

8,831 posts

156 months

Saturday 2nd August 2014
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H100S said:
My work involves considerable interaction with Police workshops, despite the fact these cars are maintained well always get what they need and are repaired to a very high standard by qualified people generally using manufacturer trained people I would not touch one with a barge pole.

Police cars are very simply a tool for the job. They get a very hard time, most have had panel damage at some point. the drive train get seriously abused. Gearboxes take loads of hammer, driving styles vary massively none of which are sympathetic. Engines, particularly pursuit cars sit at idle for excessive periods of time generating huge temperatures in the process. Wiring looms are often cut to integrate the additional equipment, this is often a area of poor reliability once removed.

Over rev codes are present on most to, just this week I saw a vehicle with 19 over rev codes in third gear.

If the vehicle was at the right price then I do understand the appeal particularly if you are handy with a spanner so can keep the bills down but approach with caution many of these cars have a very hard life.
Lots of truth in this. Buy on condition.

Greendubber

13,206 posts

203 months

Saturday 2nd August 2014
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Megaflow said:
A lot of manufacturers build police spec cars now and Police spec doesn't mean more power or uprated suspension. Normally they are the most powerful engine, with the basic interior and the wiring & second for all the extra kit they run, sometimes they have bigger brakes off bigger models to cope with being fully loaded all the time. Police spec V70's have front discs off the XC90 for example. I'd guess a traffic car and an ARV are actually the same thing as far as the manufacturer is concerned, hence weapon lock.
Not with our ARV's as they're armoured from the b post forward.

pingu393

7,788 posts

205 months

Saturday 2nd August 2014
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Greendubber said:
Not with our ARV's ....
If this isn't common knowledge, you've just given the bad guys a heads-up. I suggest deleting the post.

Greendubber

13,206 posts

203 months

Sunday 3rd August 2014
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pingu393 said:
If this isn't common knowledge, you've just given the bad guys a heads-up. I suggest deleting the post.
I suggest you stop worrying.




pingu393

7,788 posts

205 months

Sunday 3rd August 2014
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Greendubber said:
I suggest you stop worrying.
I'll only worry if I'm in the back smile.