640d GC 4days in (possibly still the best car in real world)

[Ari]

berlintaxi said:

Of a diesel BMW on a PCP, yes we can hardly control the green eyed monsters within us.

It certainly appears that way.

[Ares]

Wills2 said:

br d said:

Fair enough but I think performance is about a lot more than half a second 0 - 60.

I agree, obviously in the right hands the 911 would be away on a twisting road (and as a driving experience on another plane), but the mid range punch these 8sp diesels have is mostly annoying!

Even in less than the right hands, a 640d wouldn't see which way the 911 went on a twisting road.

[Wills2]

cerb4.5lee said:

Wills2 said:

cerb4.5lee said:

Wills2 said:

My current M3 is about the same as the 911 and I certainly wouldn't expect to boss a 640d in it, damn that pesky torque.

Always respect your honesty Wills!

Been bullied too many times on the A1 Cerb!

He sits there at 2000rpm with 500lb/ft whilst I'm up there at 8k with all hell breaking loose, sometimes you just long for more twist.

[Wills2]

Ares said:

Even in less than the right hands, a 640d wouldn't see which way the 911 went on a twisting road.

I had one for 3 years and covered 55k, so I think I understand its potential thanks, but also its limitations and of course you can only go so fast before you become reckless.

[cerb4.5lee]

Wills2 said:

cerb4.5lee said:

Wills2 said:

cerb4.5lee said:

Wills2 said:

My current M3 is about the same as the 911 and I certainly wouldn't expect to boss a 640d in it, damn that pesky torque.

Always respect your honesty Wills!

Been bullied too many times on the A1 Cerb!

He sits there at 2000rpm with 500lb/ft whilst I'm up there at 8k with all hell breaking loose, sometimes you just long for more twist.

As I said in the previous post Wills I have so much respect for you, I love honesty and by you accepting motors for their good and bad attributes goes far with me...hats off.

[Pooh]

Not a fan, I cannot see why people think it looks nice and it will depreciate like a brick.
I would far rather have a Maserati GranTurismo S or sport for that sort of money, they have the best residual values in their class and are much more fun to drive, in fact that is exactly what I will be buying within the next few months, so not the slightest bit of jealousy here.

[Ares]

Pooh said:

Not a fan, I cannot see why people think it looks nice and it will depreciate like a brick.
I would far rather have a Maserati GranTurismo S or sport for that sort of money, they have the best residual values in their class and are much more fun to drive, in fact that is exactly what I will be buying within the next few months, so not the slightest bit of jealousy here.

Can't really disagree with anything you say....but the Maserati GranTourismoS STARTS at £84,000. One of the father's at my daughter's school has just taken delivery to replace a 997 Turbo S and sit alongside a Bentley. It's in a different league.

[Pooh]

Ares said:

Pooh said:

Not a fan, I cannot see why people think it looks nice and it will depreciate like a brick.
I would far rather have a Maserati GranTurismo S or sport for that sort of money, they have the best residual values in their class and are much more fun to drive, in fact that is exactly what I will be buying within the next few months, so not the slightest bit of jealousy here.

Can't really disagree with anything you say....but the Maserati GranTourismoS STARTS at £84,000. One of the father's at my daughter's school has just taken delivery to replace a 997 Turbo S and sit alongside a Bentley. It's in a different league.

That is a fair point but you can pick up a very low mileage nearly new Sport for about 75k and that is what I am aiming for, if I cannot quite stretch to that then I will go for an MC shift S for 10 to 15 thousand pounds less.
I am glad that you are enjoying your car, the world would be very dull if we all had the same taste,

[berlintaxi]

Ari said:

berlintaxi said:

Of a diesel BMW on a PCP, yes we can hardly control the green eyed monsters within us.

It certainly appears that way.

Care to point out where?

It ain't a car that I find in any way exciting or interesting and didn't feel it needed another thread following on so soon after the first one, bit like the bloke/bore in the pub who never shuts up about what a bargain he got, imo.

Still I'm sure you'll interpret it however you want, you usually do.

[blindswelledrat]

Berlin and that other bloke with 11000 posts that I have never noticed before:
If one of your mates phoned you up really excited that he had bought himself a car he really loved - would you begrudge him talking about it and feel the need to tell him how crap you think it is for the money?
What do you think a car forum is supposed to be for?
Yes the op is excited and showing off his new car but that's what we all do among people that we assume will be happy for us rather than dislike us for it.
Pair of wierdos.

[Ares]

Pooh said:

Ares said:

Pooh said:

Not a fan, I cannot see why people think it looks nice and it will depreciate like a brick.
I would far rather have a Maserati GranTurismo S or sport for that sort of money, they have the best residual values in their class and are much more fun to drive, in fact that is exactly what I will be buying within the next few months, so not the slightest bit of jealousy here.

Can't really disagree with anything you say....but the Maserati GranTourismoS STARTS at £84,000. One of the father's at my daughter's school has just taken delivery to replace a 997 Turbo S and sit alongside a Bentley. It's in a different league.

That is a fair point but you can pick up a very low mileage nearly new Sport for about 75k and that is what I am aiming for, if I cannot quite stretch to that then I will go for an MC shift S for 10 to 15 thousand pounds less.
I am glad that you are enjoying your car, the world would be very dull if we all had the same taste,

I'm sure you'll likewise love the Maser.... Stunning car. I SO nearly bought a 4200GT 10 years or so ago. Still struggle to get over the fact that I missed the chance to own an Italian V8 super-car.
If I didn't want the comfort of a three year warranty/5-years service, I would have been sorely tempted by a QuattroPorte. Fleetingly looked at a Sport GT S at JCT600. But at 3 years old and £72k it was just too much of a gamble. Car is in a different league though.

[blindswelledrat]

kapiteinlangzaam said:

1. I haven't told him its crap, in fact I actually congratulated him on a nice car - but hey don't let little things like reality cloud your judgement

2. If my mate called me twice with the same story in the space of two days, i'd tell him to bore off and wind his neck in.

Fair enough. You are a really really st mate, though.

[B3ALP]

kapiteinlangzaam said:

1. I haven't told him its crap, in fact I actually congratulated him on a nice car - but hey don't let little things like reality cloud your judgement

2. If my mate called me twice with the same story in the space of two days, i'd tell him to bore off and wind his neck in.

Is your mates name Drop Dead Fred?

[Dave200]

blindswelledrat said:

Berlin and that other bloke with 11000 posts that I have never noticed before:
If one of your mates phoned you up really excited that he had bought himself a car he really loved - would you begrudge him talking about it and feel the need to tell him how crap you think it is for the money?
What do you think a car forum is supposed to be for?
Yes the op is excited and showing off his new car but that's what we all do among people that we assume will be happy for us rather than dislike us for it.
Pair of wierdos.

He's not a special needs child with a new Raleigh Chopper... he's a middle-aged bloke with a diesel BMW.

[blindswelledrat]

Dave200 said:

He's not a special needs child with a new Raleigh Chopper... he's a middle-aged bloke with a diesel BMW.

So you don't like cars as much as him. Have a medal.
In the meantime, other people on a car forum unsurprisingly do and are interested.
I could just about understand the attitude if he had made this thread on Im-on-benefits.com but for supposed car enthusiasts to be so contemptuous about another car enthusiast because he is happy with a new car is just mental

[Dave200]

blindswelledrat said:

Dave200 said:

He's not a special needs child with a new Raleigh Chopper... he's a middle-aged bloke with a diesel BMW.

So you don't like cars as much as him. Have a medal.
In the meantime, other people on a car forum unsurprisingly do and are interested.
I could just about understand the attitude if he had made this thread on Im-on-benefits.com but for supposed car enthusiasts to be so contemptuous about another car enthusiast because he is happy with a new car is just mental

I'm not remotely contemptuous - I'm largely indifferent to the car.

I just can't imagine what sort of 'joy' it takes to make a bloke rave about his new car across multiple threads. It's like that plonker who bought the BMW and VW camper, and couldn't stop telling everyone how good a deal he got. I think it, therefore I write it - the sole function of a forum, no?

[N88]

Threads like this really make you start to question humanity. So many idiots.

Great car OP, enjoy it!

[Ari]

Dave200 said:

I'm not remotely contemptuous - I'm largely indifferent to the car.

I just can't imagine what sort of 'joy' it takes to make a bloke rave about his new car across multiple threads. It's like that plonker who bought the BMW and VW camper, and couldn't stop telling everyone how good a deal he got. I think it, therefore I write it - the sole function of a forum, no?

Sad.

[Ari]

berlintaxi said:

Ari said:

berlintaxi said:

Of a diesel BMW on a PCP, yes we can hardly control the green eyed monsters within us.

It certainly appears that way.

Care to point out where?

It ain't a car that I find in any way exciting or interesting and didn't feel it needed another thread following on so soon after the first one, bit like the bloke/bore in the pub who never shuts up about what a bargain he got, imo.

Still I'm sure you'll interpret it however you want, you usually do.

I'd be bloody delirious if I was getting a brand new £75K BMW. Clearly I'm just not rich enough and such excitement in your world is reserved for new Learjets or Sunseeker Predators.

Lucky you. I think...

[edo]

Dave200 said:

blindswelledrat said:

Dave200 said:

He's not a special needs child with a new Raleigh Chopper... he's a middle-aged bloke with a diesel BMW.

So you don't like cars as much as him. Have a medal.
In the meantime, other people on a car forum unsurprisingly do and are interested.
I could just about understand the attitude if he had made this thread on Im-on-benefits.com but for supposed car enthusiasts to be so contemptuous about another car enthusiast because he is happy with a new car is just mental

I'm not remotely contemptuous - I'm largely indifferent to the car.

I just can't imagine what sort of 'joy' it takes to make a bloke rave about his new car across multiple threads. It's like that plonker who bought the BMW and VW camper, and couldn't stop telling everyone how good a deal he got. I think it, therefore I write it - the sole function of a forum, no?

Then dont read the thread. The world would be a boring place if we all liked the same things. You like cats, some people dont. You post about training a cat, people who find it relevant post, those that dont dont.

The guy has got new car, he wants to shout about it, stop being a tedious kill joy and go and post elsewhere.