640d GC 4days in (possibly still the best car in real world)
Discussion
TREMAiNE said:
Your nasty comments are ridiculous. Clearly a bit of jealousy that the OP has spent and sizeable some that you (or I, for that matter) couldn't possibly afford on what he thinks is the best car in the world in his opinion and for his requirements.
You can clearly see the model in the thread title, so you've obviously come on here to put a downer on things.
Anyone can spend a make-believe £53,000 at their desk on a forum. I'd love to say that "if it were my money I'd by a 355, what is the OP thinking?" but realistically I know that if it wasn't dreamland I'd buy something a lot more sensible and a 640D would be a solid contender!
Nasty comments really? Just commenting thats there is better out there and the thread title was arrogant.You can clearly see the model in the thread title, so you've obviously come on here to put a downer on things.
Anyone can spend a make-believe £53,000 at their desk on a forum. I'd love to say that "if it were my money I'd by a 355, what is the OP thinking?" but realistically I know that if it wasn't dreamland I'd buy something a lot more sensible and a 640D would be a solid contender!
Jealousy of a car I think is ugly and have pointed out several comparables I would rather? Really? Hmm....
Came on this thread just because of the car in the title? Really? Even though I said it was the "best car in real world" comment that griped me? Hmm.....
Ermm all your points are wrong.........
Are people not allowed to comment on threads anymore around here unless its comments of praise?
I've looked at the first page comments and now the 13th page comments and nothing seems to have changed?
My first impression and therefore opinion is "too much information..anyone who asks or cares about mpg is boring...diesel car bore...too many words like 'exploded' and 'blasted' and by the 13th page we are still waffling on about mpg".
My mate actually tells me what the mpg is of his Audi whenever he drives down from where he lives 100 miles away. What is the point of that? I tell him every time I don't care. He can't help it. He is boring. A car bore. His car is a diesel. Say no more. Sounds like a taxi and smells like one too.
He also does 'track days' and mountain biking. And 'does' photography. And now takes photos of stars, as in solar system stars. He always 'does' these activities with a group of fellow 'enthusiasts' and they all babble on about gadgets, mpg and so on. Goes camping too. Delights in telling me of some super car he has overtaken at Thruxton or how much his tyres cost or his lens cost or what aperture it is etc. Spends a FORTUNE on gear/equipment but is a tight bast*ard at the same time.
Very tedious and I've...fell...asleep.
My first impression and therefore opinion is "too much information..anyone who asks or cares about mpg is boring...diesel car bore...too many words like 'exploded' and 'blasted' and by the 13th page we are still waffling on about mpg".
My mate actually tells me what the mpg is of his Audi whenever he drives down from where he lives 100 miles away. What is the point of that? I tell him every time I don't care. He can't help it. He is boring. A car bore. His car is a diesel. Say no more. Sounds like a taxi and smells like one too.
He also does 'track days' and mountain biking. And 'does' photography. And now takes photos of stars, as in solar system stars. He always 'does' these activities with a group of fellow 'enthusiasts' and they all babble on about gadgets, mpg and so on. Goes camping too. Delights in telling me of some super car he has overtaken at Thruxton or how much his tyres cost or his lens cost or what aperture it is etc. Spends a FORTUNE on gear/equipment but is a tight bast*ard at the same time.
Very tedious and I've...fell...asleep.
I forgot to say before my light sleep that if the OP keeps his car for a year could he let us know how many thousands of pounds it has depreciated in that time?
'Cheap' on fuel though...best car in the real world if you forget the value and it is a diesel. Petrol cars no good in the real world then?
No doubt I'll get told off for being 'negative' about the car, but if you have to explain what sort of car it is then it is already a lost cause.
I also know a chap who has a Lotus and takes it out once a week for a 4 mile drive. He too is very boring, like my mate detailed in my earlier post.
Next time you go Silverstone etc and see someone with a Lotus in the car park see if they are wearing a baseball cap. And has a fold-up chair.
'Cheap' on fuel though...best car in the real world if you forget the value and it is a diesel. Petrol cars no good in the real world then?
No doubt I'll get told off for being 'negative' about the car, but if you have to explain what sort of car it is then it is already a lost cause.
I also know a chap who has a Lotus and takes it out once a week for a 4 mile drive. He too is very boring, like my mate detailed in my earlier post.
Next time you go Silverstone etc and see someone with a Lotus in the car park see if they are wearing a baseball cap. And has a fold-up chair.
rb5er said:
Jealousy of a car I think is ugly and have pointed out several comparables I would rather? Really? Hmm....
...have you?? You proffered one, the diesel XJ that is c50bhp short and more expensive. Despite several request to details 'so many' alternatives?Care to offer a few more (Similar power/similar economics/similar accommodation - for the avoidance of doubt)
BlimeyCharlie said:
I've looked at the first page comments and now the 13th page comments and nothing seems to have changed?
My first impression and therefore opinion is "too much information..anyone who asks or cares about mpg is boring...diesel car bore...too many words like 'exploded' and 'blasted' and by the 13th page we are still waffling on about mpg".
My mate actually tells me what the mpg is of his Audi whenever he drives down from where he lives 100 miles away. What is the point of that? I tell him every time I don't care. He can't help it. He is boring. A car bore. His car is a diesel. Say no more. Sounds like a taxi and smells like one too.
He also does 'track days' and mountain biking. And 'does' photography. And now takes photos of stars, as in solar system stars. He always 'does' these activities with a group of fellow 'enthusiasts' and they all babble on about gadgets, mpg and so on. Goes camping too. Delights in telling me of some super car he has overtaken at Thruxton or how much his tyres cost or his lens cost or what aperture it is etc. Spends a FORTUNE on gear/equipment but is a tight bast*ard at the same time.
Very tedious and I've...fell...asleep.
Sorry, I got bored reading your 400 word moan. Did you say anything other than a whinge that it's a diesel? Please paraphrase if you did. Or ignore the thread if you didn't. TAGL.My first impression and therefore opinion is "too much information..anyone who asks or cares about mpg is boring...diesel car bore...too many words like 'exploded' and 'blasted' and by the 13th page we are still waffling on about mpg".
My mate actually tells me what the mpg is of his Audi whenever he drives down from where he lives 100 miles away. What is the point of that? I tell him every time I don't care. He can't help it. He is boring. A car bore. His car is a diesel. Say no more. Sounds like a taxi and smells like one too.
He also does 'track days' and mountain biking. And 'does' photography. And now takes photos of stars, as in solar system stars. He always 'does' these activities with a group of fellow 'enthusiasts' and they all babble on about gadgets, mpg and so on. Goes camping too. Delights in telling me of some super car he has overtaken at Thruxton or how much his tyres cost or his lens cost or what aperture it is etc. Spends a FORTUNE on gear/equipment but is a tight bast*ard at the same time.
Very tedious and I've...fell...asleep.
In any regard, it's not like I bought a Volvo.
BlimeyCharlie said:
I've looked at the first page comments and now the 13th page comments and nothing seems to have changed?
My first impression and therefore opinion is "too much information..anyone who asks or cares about mpg is boring...diesel car bore...too many words like 'exploded' and 'blasted' and by the 13th page we are still waffling on about mpg".
My mate actually tells me what the mpg is of his Audi whenever he drives down from where he lives 100 miles away. What is the point of that? I tell him every time I don't care. He can't help it. He is boring. A car bore. His car is a diesel. Say no more. Sounds like a taxi and smells like one too.
He also does 'track days' and mountain biking. And 'does' photography. And now takes photos of stars, as in solar system stars. He always 'does' these activities with a group of fellow 'enthusiasts' and they all babble on about gadgets, mpg and so on. Goes camping too. Delights in telling me of some super car he has overtaken at Thruxton or how much his tyres cost or his lens cost or what aperture it is etc. Spends a FORTUNE on gear/equipment but is a tight bast*ard at the same time.
Very tedious and I've...fell...asleep.
I think you are unacceptably drunk for 22.10, but I did enjoy that post.My first impression and therefore opinion is "too much information..anyone who asks or cares about mpg is boring...diesel car bore...too many words like 'exploded' and 'blasted' and by the 13th page we are still waffling on about mpg".
My mate actually tells me what the mpg is of his Audi whenever he drives down from where he lives 100 miles away. What is the point of that? I tell him every time I don't care. He can't help it. He is boring. A car bore. His car is a diesel. Say no more. Sounds like a taxi and smells like one too.
He also does 'track days' and mountain biking. And 'does' photography. And now takes photos of stars, as in solar system stars. He always 'does' these activities with a group of fellow 'enthusiasts' and they all babble on about gadgets, mpg and so on. Goes camping too. Delights in telling me of some super car he has overtaken at Thruxton or how much his tyres cost or his lens cost or what aperture it is etc. Spends a FORTUNE on gear/equipment but is a tight bast*ard at the same time.
Very tedious and I've...fell...asleep.
It was like some bizarre social commentary.
crazy about cars said:
Loving that display screen. New gen BMWs certainly have improved miles in this area.
Any pictures of the rear OP?
Display is amazing almost notebook size. Real step forward compared to even 3 years ago. Uses Google Maps for satellite imagery, plus destination photos to aid location. Even better, now incorporates Google Traffic with Real-Time-Traffic-Information (same Green/Yellow/Amber/Red route colouring as online) - work very well. See here:Any pictures of the rear OP?
Other pictures as requested....
ORD said:
It is a very good-looking car.
Best 4-seater diesel car for less than £60k? I think that is a realistic statement.
If deals come about again that you can get a well spec'd MSport for less than £60k, my advice is to snap hands off quickly.Best 4-seater diesel car for less than £60k? I think that is a realistic statement.
Best deal my dealer could do on my actual car now is £64,500 and almost double the APR. Still over £10,000 off list, but nothing like what I got. Power of an end-of-quarter negotiation!
I have had my 640d (Coupe) for just over 2 years, personal lease, and it goes back in August.
I am absolutely stumped as to what to replace it with. If anyone thinks I havent had a spread of (petrol and diesel) cars, please check my 40+ car history in my profile. This is absolutely one of the best cars I have owned; Quick, Comfortable, reliable (that's done it) and amazingly good on fuel for the performance.
I'm currently sitting at 23,000 miles, and car is showing 39mpg since day 1. Now I am sure the computer is slightly over optimistic, but even so for a big 300bhp GT car I think that is insane.
It also smashed through its limiter to a gps confirmed 162mph (private track).
The only 3 bad points for me; 1; it's a big car, so parking spaces are sometimes tight, as are carparks like T5 LHR spiral in/out which makes me twitch. 2; Depreciation. Luckily I chose the correct path and did a straight 3+29 personal lease (600pm 12k pa), so for 2.5 years just over 19k. I reckon the car (list 69) is worth no more than 35k now, so whilst a bargain for someone, you'd have needed a bloody big discount to make that depreciation palatable. 3; 20" wheels pretty firm on potholes. Having said that I am still on original tyres which is pretty amazing (slightly helped by winter wheels for 3 months a year).
Alongside nothing going wrong, it has only had one while you wait oil change/service which was dont free as part of the service pack. It doesnt use oil.
What helps the lease/PCP costs is generous (as it should be) spec, including prof media, heated seats, decent hi-fi, elec memory seats, park sensors etc etc, so you dont have to load extras so much which just bump up lease costs. I am getting quotes currently for 2 or 4 series with a few bits just as much as another 6 series..
Is it the "best car in the real world"? I dont know, everyone has different requirements. I am lucky I have 2 other cars as well, one being a good old fashioned manual RWD sports car, but I know which car I prefer to use when I have a long UK journey to do in average weather with a mix of motorway and a and b roads..
I have never repeated a car more than once before, but I may be breaking my rule come August.
Just my 2p.
I am absolutely stumped as to what to replace it with. If anyone thinks I havent had a spread of (petrol and diesel) cars, please check my 40+ car history in my profile. This is absolutely one of the best cars I have owned; Quick, Comfortable, reliable (that's done it) and amazingly good on fuel for the performance.
I'm currently sitting at 23,000 miles, and car is showing 39mpg since day 1. Now I am sure the computer is slightly over optimistic, but even so for a big 300bhp GT car I think that is insane.
It also smashed through its limiter to a gps confirmed 162mph (private track).
The only 3 bad points for me; 1; it's a big car, so parking spaces are sometimes tight, as are carparks like T5 LHR spiral in/out which makes me twitch. 2; Depreciation. Luckily I chose the correct path and did a straight 3+29 personal lease (600pm 12k pa), so for 2.5 years just over 19k. I reckon the car (list 69) is worth no more than 35k now, so whilst a bargain for someone, you'd have needed a bloody big discount to make that depreciation palatable. 3; 20" wheels pretty firm on potholes. Having said that I am still on original tyres which is pretty amazing (slightly helped by winter wheels for 3 months a year).
Alongside nothing going wrong, it has only had one while you wait oil change/service which was dont free as part of the service pack. It doesnt use oil.
What helps the lease/PCP costs is generous (as it should be) spec, including prof media, heated seats, decent hi-fi, elec memory seats, park sensors etc etc, so you dont have to load extras so much which just bump up lease costs. I am getting quotes currently for 2 or 4 series with a few bits just as much as another 6 series..
Is it the "best car in the real world"? I dont know, everyone has different requirements. I am lucky I have 2 other cars as well, one being a good old fashioned manual RWD sports car, but I know which car I prefer to use when I have a long UK journey to do in average weather with a mix of motorway and a and b roads..
I have never repeated a car more than once before, but I may be breaking my rule come August.
Just my 2p.
edo said:
I have had my 640d (Coupe) for just over 2 years, personal lease, and it goes back in August.
I am absolutely stumped as to what to replace it with. If anyone thinks I havent had a spread of (petrol and diesel) cars, please check my 40+ car history in my profile. This is absolutely one of the best cars I have owned; Quick, Comfortable, reliable (that's done it) and amazingly good on fuel for the performance.
I'm currently sitting at 23,000 miles, and car is showing 39mpg since day 1. Now I am sure the computer is slightly over optimistic, but even so for a big 300bhp GT car I think that is insane.
It also smashed through its limiter to a gps confirmed 162mph (private track).
The only 3 bad points for me; 1; it's a big car, so parking spaces are sometimes tight, as are carparks like T5 LHR spiral in/out which makes me twitch. 2; Depreciation. Luckily I chose the correct path and did a straight 3+29 personal lease (600pm 12k pa), so for 2.5 years just over 19k. I reckon the car (list 69) is worth no more than 35k now, so whilst a bargain for someone, you'd have needed a bloody big discount to make that depreciation palatable. 3; 20" wheels pretty firm on potholes. Having said that I am still on original tyres which is pretty amazing (slightly helped by winter wheels for 3 months a year).
Alongside nothing going wrong, it has only had one while you wait oil change/service which was dont free as part of the service pack. It doesnt use oil.
What helps the lease/PCP costs is generous (as it should be) spec, including prof media, heated seats, decent hi-fi, elec memory seats, park sensors etc etc, so you dont have to load extras so much which just bump up lease costs. I am getting quotes currently for 2 or 4 series with a few bits just as much as another 6 series..
Is it the "best car in the real world"? I dont know, everyone has different requirements. I am lucky I have 2 other cars as well, one being a good old fashioned manual RWD sports car, but I know which car I prefer to use when I have a long UK journey to do in average weather with a mix of motorway and a and b roads..
I have never repeated a car more than once before, but I may be breaking my rule come August.
Just my 2p.
Great write up, thanks Edo! I share your comments. I am absolutely stumped as to what to replace it with. If anyone thinks I havent had a spread of (petrol and diesel) cars, please check my 40+ car history in my profile. This is absolutely one of the best cars I have owned; Quick, Comfortable, reliable (that's done it) and amazingly good on fuel for the performance.
I'm currently sitting at 23,000 miles, and car is showing 39mpg since day 1. Now I am sure the computer is slightly over optimistic, but even so for a big 300bhp GT car I think that is insane.
It also smashed through its limiter to a gps confirmed 162mph (private track).
The only 3 bad points for me; 1; it's a big car, so parking spaces are sometimes tight, as are carparks like T5 LHR spiral in/out which makes me twitch. 2; Depreciation. Luckily I chose the correct path and did a straight 3+29 personal lease (600pm 12k pa), so for 2.5 years just over 19k. I reckon the car (list 69) is worth no more than 35k now, so whilst a bargain for someone, you'd have needed a bloody big discount to make that depreciation palatable. 3; 20" wheels pretty firm on potholes. Having said that I am still on original tyres which is pretty amazing (slightly helped by winter wheels for 3 months a year).
Alongside nothing going wrong, it has only had one while you wait oil change/service which was dont free as part of the service pack. It doesnt use oil.
What helps the lease/PCP costs is generous (as it should be) spec, including prof media, heated seats, decent hi-fi, elec memory seats, park sensors etc etc, so you dont have to load extras so much which just bump up lease costs. I am getting quotes currently for 2 or 4 series with a few bits just as much as another 6 series..
Is it the "best car in the real world"? I dont know, everyone has different requirements. I am lucky I have 2 other cars as well, one being a good old fashioned manual RWD sports car, but I know which car I prefer to use when I have a long UK journey to do in average weather with a mix of motorway and a and b roads..
I have never repeated a car more than once before, but I may be breaking my rule come August.
Just my 2p.
I looked at a 435d too (in anticipation of the Gran Coupe version of that coming out) - lovely looking car from the outside, I was just underwhelmed inside as it is a real step down from even the 5-series, let alone the 6. Still a nice interior, and still prefer it to the other German competitors, just could have done more IMO.
Echo your insanity comment on the fuel consumption. I've still not finished a full tank yet to work out real world mpg, and I never did work it out with my 530d so no real comparison other than the computer, but I've done 460 miles so far, gauge still shows 1/4 of a tank, range quoted at 150 miles which gives it 46mpg. Computer shows 44mpg. For a big 310bhp car, its ridiculous.
Interested to know see where your August purchase ends up.
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