So I bought a V8 Jag with my student loan (2000 S-type 4.0)

So I bought a V8 Jag with my student loan (2000 S-type 4.0)

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Synchromesh

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2,428 posts

165 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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HaylingJag said:
Well done James
Welcome to V8 ownership. What have you got for trackdays now the bm has gone? Be warned, these big feckers are cash heavy on a circuit.
There's a chap in Chalfont that supplies back pipes for the XKR , Mrs weren't too happy but that's another story, he may be able to do something for the S. You need to release the noise of the V8' it's glorious.

Last seen on the A40' from Silverstone, my 20 stone track ballast was asking who the loon in the b emm was, waving frantically at uslaughwavey

Well done again mate, see you at Abingdon, 16th may?

Darren
Hi Darren

Not planning to take the Jag on track. Well, possibly a wet summer evening session for a bit of sideways action, purely for the incongruity you understand. A few mates have got far more trackable things they kindly said they are happy for me to use, but I'm considering getting a kart or motorbike for the high adrenaline stuff.

I'll check out the place in Chalfont but I know a few people who've used Infiniti near Bristol with good results, so that'll probably be my first choice.

Was funny seeing you on the M40 on the way back from the SS. Saw your car parked up in the paddock but you weren't with it so I couldn't say hello.

Probably won't be back at Abingdon any time soon. It wasn't a bad track, but there are a few others I'm keen on giving a go first.

Vipers said:
I don't understand why a car which was looked after, needed a new box at 84k and engine at 113k.

On the plus side, with a new engine at 113 and only 125 on the clock, it will as you say "It's got plenty of life in it". smile
As said, the engine and box in particular on these have issues, as documented in other threads. It's a time bomb, so if it sees me to Le Mans and back I'll think I've had my money's worth. Anything beyond that is a bonus.

Vipers

32,743 posts

227 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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Synchromesh said:
As said, the engine and box in particular on these have issues, as documented in other threads. It's a time bomb, so if it sees me to Le Mans and back I'll think I've had my money's worth. Anything beyond that is a bonus.
Good luck, smashing motor for the price.




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fatboy69

9,369 posts

186 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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£900!!!

That's a steal. Lucky bugger.

As for the E36 328 - if that comes on the market soon please PM me as I want one to go with my E36 318is.

Won't be long until the 19mpg makes itself known - it did on my X-Type. Within a week of me buying it!!!!

Quhet

2,401 posts

145 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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Lovely looking car for the money mate, nice purchase drink

fatboy69

9,369 posts

186 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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Heaveho said:
There's a Jag Indy in Southampton that my Mrs used to co-own called S&C Motors, that will have probably thousands of parts lying around for one of these, should it ( when it! ) breaks. The number is 02350 458418, the place is an absolute pigsty to walk into now, but the owner ( Shaun ) is Jag trained, knows his stuff ( the main dealer he used to work for calls him when they can't fix something! ), and will like as not have whatever it is you may need in future at a sensible price.
Wish I had known about him when the engine on my X-Type let go. Couldn't find an engine for it. Gutted when I sold her last week for the princely sum of £250.00.

A loss of £2700 in just over 18 months. Annoyed.

fatboy69

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186 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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Vipers said:
You said The mileage is 'only' 125k, which for me means that it's barely run in. It's had a new gearbox at 84k and an engine at 113k, which hopefully means it's got plenty of life in it. The interior is perfect with no rips of wear marks on the leather.

I don't understand why a car which was looked after, needed a new box at 84k and engine at 113k.

On the plus side, with a new engine at 113 and only 125 on the clock, it will as you say "It's got plenty of life in it". Smashing car though, I have always liked the gates for the stick.


The engine on my X-Type -- fully serviced & well looked after -- let go with just 68k miles on the clock. Not happy when it let go.



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Synchromesh

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2,428 posts

165 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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fatboy69 said:
As for the E36 328 - if that comes on the market soon please PM me as I want one to go with my E36 318is.
It got sold to another PHer - see the bottom of this thread.

Jaguar steve

9,232 posts

209 months

Monday 21st April 2014
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Vipers said:
You said The mileage is 'only' 125k, which for me means that it's barely run in. It's had a new gearbox at 84k and an engine at 113k, which hopefully means it's got plenty of life in it. The interior is perfect with no rips of wear marks on the leather.

I don't understand why a car which was looked after, needed a new box at 84k and engine at 113k.

On the plus side, with a new engine at 113 and only 125 on the clock, it will as you say "It's got plenty of life in it". Smashing car though, I have always liked the gates for the stick.




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Jaguar marketed the ZF 'box in the V8 S and XJ as "sealed for life" - the service schedule did not call for any oil changes through the life of the gearbox. This was to reduce routine maintenance costs to increase showroom appeal. As a result there's been several cases of wrecked and malfunctioning gearboxes from lubrication failure on quite modest mileage cars. Gearbox oil can and should be changed at 50k then every 25k on or so, if you do that the 'box will survive high miles if not chances are it'll die.

A 2000 V8 car may have been fitted with the AJ26 rather than revised AJ27 engine version. These occasionally suffered Nicasil bore erosion and had weak water pumps and timing chain tensioners. Several early XJ V8 engines were were replaced under warranty or upgraded to AJ27 spec for these reasons. If run very low on oil the V8 likes to eat it's bearings too.

Heaveho

5,277 posts

173 months

Monday 21st April 2014
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fatboy69 said:
Wish I had known about him when the engine on my X-Type let go. Couldn't find an engine for it. Gutted when I sold her last week for the princely sum of £250.00.

A loss of £2700 in just over 18 months. Annoyed.
I've edited my original post, as I mis-typed the phone number.......it should have read 02380 458418, apologies.

slicknic

57 posts

129 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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James very kindly let me have a drive of the S-type this afternoon. So much motor for £900. The autobox and J-gate shifter are very old school, but the car is impressive with no untoward noises at all from the running gear. The engine certainly seemed very healthy accelerating between the roundabouts on the Bristol ring-road. The 19mpg might take a bit of getting use too though!

sparks_E39

12,738 posts

212 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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My long term average MPG in my 3.0 6 cylinder is only a couple of MPG more, so 19 mpg isn't too bad.

nm121

437 posts

139 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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Nice to see this tradition is alive and well. I also spanked some of my student loan into a 2001 S-Type 4.0. And most of my overdraft.




It was £3,600 back in 2009 when I was 23. Just 36k genuine miles on the clock when I bought it. It felt absolutely superb wafting along in opulent luxury, down to the pound shop to buy a tin of spaghetti hoops with the 15p I had left.

I bet you feel like a boss having only shelled out 900 coins. It was funny reading your write up - I totally agree regarding the engine and performance. It will shift along nicely but not mind blowing. I guess the S-Type R filled that niche. The power delivery was more of a surge and the sense of speed wasn't as tangible as in other cars I have owned (ATR for example).

I found it most at home about town (in my case it was Glasgow west end while at Uni) or surging from roundabout to roundabout on a carriageway. I do remember lighting the rears up at a very wet set of lights. And getting the back end out on the way back to Glasvegas after buying it (it was a bad snow that year). I also enjoyed the looks from most people who assumed I had just stolen it. I wore a lot of hoodies back then. And I lived in Glasgow. I fitted a cone filter which gave it a nice induction rumble but de-cats were next on my list.

The dream didn't work out for me as the engine developed a bit of a misfire. I should mention I took excellent care of it and drove it like a saint for the most part. I replaced all of the coilpacks but that didn't solve the issue. £700 at a Glasgow main dealer did but by that stage I could only afford to eat one Cheerio per day and reverse part exchanged it at a dealer for an Almera GTI and £800 my way.

Actually the week before I was due to shake hands on the deal for the datsun, I was leaving the fiancé to prestwick airport and the Jag broke down en route. Terribly embarrassing. It popped a hose off a fuel sender unit under the rear seat. Easy fix really if you know what to look for but I didn't and needed recovered to a local garage. The funny bit was that the recovery guys turned up in a single cab truck. I had neglected to mention that I had a passenger, so we had to travel in the Jag, on the back of the recovery truck both lying horizontal with the seats down and looking out the sunroof - so we didn't get spotted by the rozzers. True story. She missed her flight and was not amused.

I hope you enjoy it and it gives you no trouble. It's worth the terrible mpg for the waftage, though I always wondered about the V6 which would probably be just as wafty but more economical.

Incidentally I'm now 28 with kids and drive a Mazda 6 diesel estate. So I look back on the Jag with fond memories. I would never be allowed to make such a purchase nowadays and the O/H still smarts about the prestwick airport incident.

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petrolveins

1,780 posts

172 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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sparks_E39 said:
My long term average MPG in my 3.0 6 cylinder is only a couple of MPG more, so 19 mpg isn't too bad.
Agreed. My 330i did 20mpg on my commute, my Saab managed about 20. 19 is plenty enough.

Buff Mchugelarge

3,316 posts

149 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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nm121 said:
...I had neglected to mention that I had a passenger, so we had to travel in the Jag, on the back of the recovery truck both lying horizontal with the seats down and looking out the sunroof - so we didn't get spotted by the rozzers..
rofl Brilliant!

Synchromesh

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2,428 posts

165 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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nm121 said:
Nice to see this tradition is alive and well. I also spanked some of my student loan into a 2001 S-Type 4.0. And most of my overdraft Etc etc
Great story Nathan, thanks for sharing thumbup

nm121 said:
I hope you enjoy it and it gives you no trouble. It's worth the terrible mpg for the waftage, though I always wondered about the V6 which would probably be just as wafty but more economical.
Yep, I've been wondering this too, as the performance and noise are more like a really good V6 than a full on 8-pot. Then again, my friend with an XJ6 (same V6 as fitted to the S-type) doesn't get very good MPG either, and I get to throw abuse at him for having a Jag without the obligatory V8 hehe

HaylingJag

2,122 posts

147 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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James,

19 to the gallon, you ain't trying hard enoughlaugh

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Geekman

2,863 posts

145 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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Synchromesh said:
Yep, I've been wondering this too, as the performance and noise are more like a really good V6 than a full on 8-pot. Then again, my friend with an XJ6 (same V6 as fitted to the S-type) doesn't get very good MPG either, and I get to throw abuse at him for having a Jag without the obligatory V8 hehe
My extra 3MPG is worth two less cylinders.


(At least that's what I keep telling myself) tongue out

kiethton

13,878 posts

179 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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What's with all of us young-ish PH'ers and big barges?

Haha

The 19 MPG isn't bad and near what I get in town in my E39 540i, the 2.5 V6 S-Type I had at 20/21 would only do 24 in town or 29 on a run, not a bad trade off for 175 odd more horses!

sparks_E39

12,738 posts

212 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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kiethton said:
What's with all of us young-ish PH'ers and big barges?
I know! I've had two E39's since I was 21 (now 27) and a mate of mine who's 22 has an Audi A8. I don't often see younger guys in barges though, but they suit me. I may get other cars to join them (think GT86) but I'll always have one.

carinaman

21,172 posts

171 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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laugh I saw the title, and thought S-Type, I like those, then I was checking the photos thinking 'Looks like a supercharged R', and then I started reading the thread and then I noticed the poster. Well done!