The Practical Family Barge - E61 M5
Discussion
hadenough! said:
MuZiZZle said:
...it tends to stop working after rain, and since I have a warranty it may aswell go in, cheers for the idea though!
Have you checked for a puddle in the boot?D4MJT said:
I lolled at "sluggish at low revs"
And also "most petrol engines do"
Diesels of course being the last word in response and power before the turbo spools lol.
Lol, you know what I mean. They don't have the shove in the back that you get in a diesel unless it's strapped to a big-ass turbo or supercharger or weighs less than a shoe...And also "most petrol engines do"
Diesels of course being the last word in response and power before the turbo spools lol.
Sat90 said:
D4MJT said:
I lolled at "sluggish at low revs"
And also "most petrol engines do"
Diesels of course being the last word in response and power before the turbo spools lol.
Lol, you know what I mean. They don't have the shove in the back that you get in a diesel unless it's strapped to a big-ass turbo or supercharger or weighs less than a shoe...And also "most petrol engines do"
Diesels of course being the last word in response and power before the turbo spools lol.
Shaoxter said:
Sat90 said:
D4MJT said:
I lolled at "sluggish at low revs"
And also "most petrol engines do"
Diesels of course being the last word in response and power before the turbo spools lol.
Lol, you know what I mean. They don't have the shove in the back that you get in a diesel unless it's strapped to a big-ass turbo or supercharger or weighs less than a shoe...And also "most petrol engines do"
Diesels of course being the last word in response and power before the turbo spools lol.
Sat90 said:
Lol, you know what I mean. They don't have the shove in the back that you get in a diesel unless it's strapped to a big-ass turbo or supercharger or weighs less than a shoe...
haha.I used to run a 1.5 flat diesel 106 as a commuting weapon years back, the performance was errrr, tectonic.
Shaoxter said:
Sat90 said:
D4MJT said:
I lolled at "sluggish at low revs"
And also "most petrol engines do"
Diesels of course being the last word in response and power before the turbo spools lol.
Lol, you know what I mean. They don't have the shove in the back that you get in a diesel unless it's strapped to a big-ass turbo or supercharger or weighs less than a shoe...And also "most petrol engines do"
Diesels of course being the last word in response and power before the turbo spools lol.
E65Ross said:
Shaoxter said:
Sat90 said:
D4MJT said:
I lolled at "sluggish at low revs"
And also "most petrol engines do"
Diesels of course being the last word in response and power before the turbo spools lol.
Lol, you know what I mean. They don't have the shove in the back that you get in a diesel unless it's strapped to a big-ass turbo or supercharger or weighs less than a shoe...And also "most petrol engines do"
Diesels of course being the last word in response and power before the turbo spools lol.
The M5 can maybe feel sluggish at lower revs as it's an NA petrol engine, like most NA engines do when compared to turbo or supercharged petrols and diesels...........
Jeez, I'd hate to make a spelling error. I'd be hung on a cross and burned in the town centre......
Sat90 said:
Tut, since everyone is being so pedantic....
The M5 can maybe feel sluggish at lower revs as it's an NA petrol engine, like most NA engines do when compared to turbo or supercharged petrols and diesels...........
Jeez, I'd hate to make a spelling error. I'd be hung on a cross and burned in the town centre......
I think people are over reacting a bit, the torque comments aren't slating the car. It's a high reving high output engine. They always feel like they have to be worked fairly hard to make the most of them (but that's really worth doing as it's glorious). It's not that it lacks torque, it's just the nature of the power delivery draws you into using it at higher revs and if you ask a lot of it at lower revs, you're kind of 'waiting' for that wonderful top end.The M5 can maybe feel sluggish at lower revs as it's an NA petrol engine, like most NA engines do when compared to turbo or supercharged petrols and diesels...........
Jeez, I'd hate to make a spelling error. I'd be hung on a cross and burned in the town centre......
Don't stress over it, no need to defend it, it's a glorious engine and a brilliant car.
Hungrymc said:
I think people are over reacting a bit, the torque comments aren't slating the car. It's a high reving high output engine. They always feel like they have to be worked fairly hard to make the most of them (but that's really worth doing as it's glorious). It's not that it lacks torque, it's just the nature of the power delivery draws you into using it at higher revs and if you ask a lot of it at lower revs, you're kind of 'waiting' for that wonderful top end.
Don't stress over it, no need to defend it, it's a glorious engine and a brilliant car.
The top of the rev band is akin to VTec (but it actually does something), it's strange, it sort of lunges forward a few thousand before the limiter, it's similar to my cammed Saxo VTS, well, I say similarDon't stress over it, no need to defend it, it's a glorious engine and a brilliant car.
Well then, I got my car back last week after the dealers had it in for a service and diagnostic plus some warranty bits.
The service seemed reasonable for it being the big 60,000 mile one, originally I was quoted around £1660 for it, I then called them back and mentioned the maindealerdiscount site to them, a spot of negotiation, supplying my own oil via opie, and it came in at £770, with a few little bits and bobs.
Scope
Software update
Engine oil
Plugs
Diff Oil
SMG Oil
Induction filters
Cabin Filters
The faults it went in for, Comfort access not working, turned out to be the wiring in the boot hinge, this was classed as wear and tear, so not covered by the warranty, they did the work without asking me, and since I've been shafted for half of the money by the garage I bought the car off as it should have been okay'd by them prior to thew work going ahead, BMW didn't even notify me that the work was out of warranty and just did it. I'm not really that fussed, I'm not trying to be cheap with this car, I just don't like paying over the odds.
The Paddle wasn't done, the boot strut wasn't done, they said they'd looked at the load cover?
I rang them at noon about picking the car up, they said they'd call straight back, about 4:30 they rang back (not a big deal for most but I had to sleep due to shift work), I went to collect the car and it took them an hour to do the invoice for payment as I sat twiddling my thumbs.
All of this aside, I have the car back, and it's even better now as I don't set the alarm of at 5:55am!
The service seemed reasonable for it being the big 60,000 mile one, originally I was quoted around £1660 for it, I then called them back and mentioned the maindealerdiscount site to them, a spot of negotiation, supplying my own oil via opie, and it came in at £770, with a few little bits and bobs.
Scope
Software update
Engine oil
Plugs
Diff Oil
SMG Oil
Induction filters
Cabin Filters
The faults it went in for, Comfort access not working, turned out to be the wiring in the boot hinge, this was classed as wear and tear, so not covered by the warranty, they did the work without asking me, and since I've been shafted for half of the money by the garage I bought the car off as it should have been okay'd by them prior to thew work going ahead, BMW didn't even notify me that the work was out of warranty and just did it. I'm not really that fussed, I'm not trying to be cheap with this car, I just don't like paying over the odds.
The Paddle wasn't done, the boot strut wasn't done, they said they'd looked at the load cover?
I rang them at noon about picking the car up, they said they'd call straight back, about 4:30 they rang back (not a big deal for most but I had to sleep due to shift work), I went to collect the car and it took them an hour to do the invoice for payment as I sat twiddling my thumbs.
All of this aside, I have the car back, and it's even better now as I don't set the alarm of at 5:55am!
ecain63 said:
Boot wiring is a warranty item. I had it done when mine went. I'd query it!
I might do actually, the guy at BMW said that when the car hits 60k a lot of things are now classed as wear and tear, this being one of them, so they're not covered. I then asked, so the price of the warranty jumps up at 60k, but it coveres less, he brushed over it and moved on.The fix cost less than the excess so it's not really worth chasing for the money, but I might ring for clarification.
- edit, I've just emailed "Mondial" aka Allianz, for some information on this.
Edited by MuZiZZle on Sunday 13th July 07:54
In for a brake fluid service today, I decided to take it to Cooper Sunderland, at £140 they were £60 more than Newcastle but I've had enough of them, so I took it south of the water. They were utterly superb, the entire experience was what it should be, taking into account I was only there for something small, it was a pleasure, I bet not many people can say that after a visit to a BMW dealership.
Now bill time, a quoted £140 on the phone came to..........£80, they discounted it for me, pointed out it could possibly do with wipers next time I'm in and said it may need tyres in about 6k and he would match the price I got.
A very happy customer!
Now bill time, a quoted £140 on the phone came to..........£80, they discounted it for me, pointed out it could possibly do with wipers next time I'm in and said it may need tyres in about 6k and he would match the price I got.
A very happy customer!
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