Renault Clio 197 Cup
Discussion
Having admired the hot Renault's for a number of years i knew it was a field where i would definitely enter it was just a case of waiting for the finances to improve and me finding my ideal spec car. I knew that from day 1 i had to have the Cup model purely because it features a revised spring/damper set up yet on the second hand market there is virtually no difference in price between a Cup and non Cup model (obviously this is comparing a similar mileage 197 of the same year as the Cup). The Cup is quite a rare model, Renault only built 432 for the UK market of which 79 where finished in my colour, Nimbus Silver (Glacier white and Racing Blue were the other 2 options, 266 and 87 of each were built). Mine does without the optional A/C and Recaro seats which i would have liked but this was a great example i just couldn't turn it down. A viewing was arranged on the 21st April, a quick test drive confirmed my decision. I wanted it and left a deposit that day. 4 days until collection, it was Christmas all over again........... but at my expense.
I collected the car on Friday (25th April) having handed over £6350 i could't help but think i had got an absolute bargain purely because the car was the cheapest 197 Cup in the country with over £600 spent on it in the last 4 months including the dreaded cambelt change. Collection day was a fairly dull process, picking the car up was exciting but the drive home in the pouring rain was fairly dull...... i don't think i managed to take the car past 4.5k rpm and when you have an additional 3000 rpm to play with it was a relatively boring drive.
Saturday loomed, dry day. Perfect. A spirited drive on a local seciton of A road and wow........ it felt absolutely fantastic. The steering, damping and initial turn in just feels sublime. You know exactly where the front end is and exactly what its doing. Coming from a 1.4 Fiat Punto to the Clio is just a revelation (which i did expect) but it really has left a big impression on me. The engine is so eager to rev and after 5k it pulls really hard right to the red line. The gearbox is a talking point amongst the Clio owners for it's reliability but mine feels absolutely spot on... precise and easy to find that next cog when you are really going for it. Lets hope it stays that way
Any criticisms..... nothing at the minute apart from i wish the pedals were positioned level with each other; the accelerator sits a couple of CM further back than the brake pedal so at the minute heel and toeing is a little tricky but i am gradually learning to just roll my foot across to blip the throttle on the down changes. The Punto required me to flick my heel across which once i got used to felt so natural but its a learning curve jumping into a new car and i can't wait to get to know the Clio better.
So anything planned for the car...... at the minute it feels great but the Falken's are looking a little low and once the summer is over they will be well and truly passed their best. Winter will see some AD08R's purchased (all round) in time for the spring. An induction kit is also on the cards and some other little trinkets, mainly OCD related. The front discs are lipped slightly so i think new front discs, pads and DOT51 fluid will be acquired at some point in the near future.
Pics below...
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197 Cup[/url] by Adam Melville, on Flickr
[url=https://flic.kr/p/nmSCiL]
Rivals[/url] by Adam Melville, on Flickr
[url=https://flic.kr/p/noVrUn]
RenaultSport[/url] by Adam Melville, on Flickr
[url=https://flic.kr/p/nk7m2A]
Rear[/url] by Adam Melville, on Flickr
[url=https://flic.kr/p/nk7g6U]
Group pose[/url] by Adam Melville, on Flickr
[url=https://flic.kr/p/nn9CNz]
Relations[/url] by Adam Melville, on Flickr
[url=https://flic.kr/p/noV1YF]
Front[/url] by Adam Melville, on Flickr
[url=https://flic.kr/p/nmRZvC]
Arch[/url] by Adam Melville, on Flickr
[url=https://flic.kr/p/nk6QCq]
Cup[/url] by Adam Melville, on Flickr
[url=https://flic.kr/p/noULZZ]
Brembo[/url] by Adam Melville, on Flickr
I collected the car on Friday (25th April) having handed over £6350 i could't help but think i had got an absolute bargain purely because the car was the cheapest 197 Cup in the country with over £600 spent on it in the last 4 months including the dreaded cambelt change. Collection day was a fairly dull process, picking the car up was exciting but the drive home in the pouring rain was fairly dull...... i don't think i managed to take the car past 4.5k rpm and when you have an additional 3000 rpm to play with it was a relatively boring drive.
Saturday loomed, dry day. Perfect. A spirited drive on a local seciton of A road and wow........ it felt absolutely fantastic. The steering, damping and initial turn in just feels sublime. You know exactly where the front end is and exactly what its doing. Coming from a 1.4 Fiat Punto to the Clio is just a revelation (which i did expect) but it really has left a big impression on me. The engine is so eager to rev and after 5k it pulls really hard right to the red line. The gearbox is a talking point amongst the Clio owners for it's reliability but mine feels absolutely spot on... precise and easy to find that next cog when you are really going for it. Lets hope it stays that way
Any criticisms..... nothing at the minute apart from i wish the pedals were positioned level with each other; the accelerator sits a couple of CM further back than the brake pedal so at the minute heel and toeing is a little tricky but i am gradually learning to just roll my foot across to blip the throttle on the down changes. The Punto required me to flick my heel across which once i got used to felt so natural but its a learning curve jumping into a new car and i can't wait to get to know the Clio better.
So anything planned for the car...... at the minute it feels great but the Falken's are looking a little low and once the summer is over they will be well and truly passed their best. Winter will see some AD08R's purchased (all round) in time for the spring. An induction kit is also on the cards and some other little trinkets, mainly OCD related. The front discs are lipped slightly so i think new front discs, pads and DOT51 fluid will be acquired at some point in the near future.
Pics below...
[url=https://flic.kr/p/noVF24]
197 Cup[/url] by Adam Melville, on Flickr
[url=https://flic.kr/p/nmSCiL]
Rivals[/url] by Adam Melville, on Flickr
[url=https://flic.kr/p/noVrUn]
RenaultSport[/url] by Adam Melville, on Flickr
[url=https://flic.kr/p/nk7m2A]
Rear[/url] by Adam Melville, on Flickr
[url=https://flic.kr/p/nk7g6U]
Group pose[/url] by Adam Melville, on Flickr
[url=https://flic.kr/p/nn9CNz]
Relations[/url] by Adam Melville, on Flickr
[url=https://flic.kr/p/noV1YF]
Front[/url] by Adam Melville, on Flickr
[url=https://flic.kr/p/nmRZvC]
Arch[/url] by Adam Melville, on Flickr
[url=https://flic.kr/p/nk6QCq]
Cup[/url] by Adam Melville, on Flickr
[url=https://flic.kr/p/noULZZ]
Brembo[/url] by Adam Melville, on Flickr
Looking good - I bought a non cup model(also in nimbus) back in 2007...great car.
Pics here:
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Pics here:
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
I was looking at either an R27 or 197 Cup. Most Cups are sitting at £6750 - £7500 and the only cheap(ish) R27 i found was for 6k but had 60k miles on the clock and the Recaro's were shagged. My car was up for £6650 (46k miles and a superb service history), negotiated a deal at £6350 and it was the cheapest in the country at the time of purchase.
O/T - looking through the service history today and the car had a replacement gearbox and clutch fitted at 34k miles in July 2012, a total sum of just over £1100. Ouch although its nice to know it has been replaced fairly recently.
O/T - looking through the service history today and the car had a replacement gearbox and clutch fitted at 34k miles in July 2012, a total sum of just over £1100. Ouch although its nice to know it has been replaced fairly recently.
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