My own barn find - Peugeot 505
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Thanks chaps for kind responses.
There are a few nasty rust spots have been found after I thoroughly washed the car
On the front end carrier
On the sunroof when I removed the windshield. Doesn't look good but the spot area is limited to the moving part. No leaks detected, thankfully, and it works well, just needs a little grease.
There's also a very nasty one under the passenger door, which has even deformed. Didn't take any pictures of it
The driver's side door is spotless. There a few bits missing from the bodywork, namely passenger side mirror, chrome headlight surroundings, and radiator grille fell apart. Not sure if I can find any of these parts here, so ebay is my friend.
The interior is in relatively good nick.
Just how comfy are those tweed seats! Best I've been in, have to say. My son preferred to sit in the car for almost all day, said he was very comfortable there.
Loved the shape of the instruments binnacle, there's something very elegant about it. The vinyl steering wheel is, simple as it looks, not tactile pleasant and needs to be reconditioned. The driving position is clever, with the gearlever kinked towards the driver.
I don't know if the mileage is genuine. Who cares? Definitely not me.
Engine bay looks good, bet it will start easily as soon as the fuel system gets clean.
As for keeping it original vs engine swap - I'm not sure yet, it's the driving experience that should make difference. The old lump is quite torque-rich but a bit agricultural as I (poorly) remember. However, the perspective of V8 Peugeot is very tempting, as I have all the parts and only need to machine an adapter plate and do some relatively easy welding. Time will tell. It stays an oil-burner for now, but unlikely to be like that for long. Mercedes M113 is also very tempting (and suitable), as is BMW M50, since I never had a straight six.
vroom - mine is 180 km/h
bob1179
I'm in Almaty, but moving to Odessa very soon. You even used a singular respectful form of "you're welcome". Cool. I'm not skilled in Kazakh TBH 
Will keep this thread updated! Thank you all.
There are a few nasty rust spots have been found after I thoroughly washed the car
On the front end carrier
On the sunroof when I removed the windshield. Doesn't look good but the spot area is limited to the moving part. No leaks detected, thankfully, and it works well, just needs a little grease.
There's also a very nasty one under the passenger door, which has even deformed. Didn't take any pictures of it
The driver's side door is spotless. There a few bits missing from the bodywork, namely passenger side mirror, chrome headlight surroundings, and radiator grille fell apart. Not sure if I can find any of these parts here, so ebay is my friend.The interior is in relatively good nick.
Just how comfy are those tweed seats! Best I've been in, have to say. My son preferred to sit in the car for almost all day, said he was very comfortable there.
Loved the shape of the instruments binnacle, there's something very elegant about it. The vinyl steering wheel is, simple as it looks, not tactile pleasant and needs to be reconditioned. The driving position is clever, with the gearlever kinked towards the driver.
I don't know if the mileage is genuine. Who cares? Definitely not me.
Engine bay looks good, bet it will start easily as soon as the fuel system gets clean.
As for keeping it original vs engine swap - I'm not sure yet, it's the driving experience that should make difference. The old lump is quite torque-rich but a bit agricultural as I (poorly) remember. However, the perspective of V8 Peugeot is very tempting, as I have all the parts and only need to machine an adapter plate and do some relatively easy welding. Time will tell. It stays an oil-burner for now, but unlikely to be like that for long. Mercedes M113 is also very tempting (and suitable), as is BMW M50, since I never had a straight six.
vroom - mine is 180 km/h
bob1179
I'm in Almaty, but moving to Odessa very soon. You even used a singular respectful form of "you're welcome". Cool. I'm not skilled in Kazakh TBH Will keep this thread updated! Thank you all.
Veeayt said:
Does anyone know of dismantling facility specialising on older Pugs here in England? Can't find the door mirrors and radiator grille FFS.
I think your best bet for parts will be France, sub-Saharan Africa or Iran for one of these. Nice car, looks like it shouldn't need much to put back on the road at all.
I used to look after a petrol engined 505 when it was almost new, very early 1980s.
I can remember how much better it drove than the run of the mill Cortinas and Cavaliers I usually serviced. The 505 had a solid build and was easy to work on, with good handling and ride.
My experience with Peugeots up until then was limited to hateful 304 fwd rattly heaps with the fanbelt that went around a corner and the impossible to access points.
I can remember how much better it drove than the run of the mill Cortinas and Cavaliers I usually serviced. The 505 had a solid build and was easy to work on, with good handling and ride.
My experience with Peugeots up until then was limited to hateful 304 fwd rattly heaps with the fanbelt that went around a corner and the impossible to access points.
jamiebae said:
Veeayt said:
Does anyone know of dismantling facility specialising on older Pugs here in England? Can't find the door mirrors and radiator grille FFS.
I think your best bet for parts will be France, sub-Saharan Africa or Iran for one of these. Nice car, looks like it shouldn't need much to put back on the road at all.
A word of caution on payment in USD to Sudan or Iran: it will get blocked, so either transact in other currencies in those countries or don't buy from there.
My Dad also had a brand new 505 GTI in 1984, a saloon in a lovely burgundy colour. He traded a Merc W123 in for it, so it must have been good. Agree that the 505 was a handsome car and I remember it seemed pretty quick for its day.
Back then Peugeot made plenty of desirable motors - the 505, the 405, the iconic 205 - what went wrong?
Back then Peugeot made plenty of desirable motors - the 505, the 405, the iconic 205 - what went wrong?
Thank you all again for kind responses
I've found a reliable source of parts in France through ebay, an amiable getleman with whom I put in close contact after buying a door mirror. I knew the car will require a big deal of parts, but it appears that my estimations were somehow detracted - almost twenty years in a barn wouldn't pass without a toll. For instance, the gearlever simply fell apart in my hand into rather small pieces of tar, and there's a great deal of vinyl falls down every time I touch the steering wheel. So I ordered a great deal of interior bits, all the belts and rollers, some filters and more. As for the fuel system, I removed the fuel tank (with diesel in it turned into oil varnish
), pump and injectors and gave them to a local garage.
That's about it for the moment, and as I directly flew away to Ukraine after that I hope to return soon and get all things sorted.
Not sure on the steering wheel though. I really don't like the state of it now, and thinking of replacing it with something contemporary and pleasant to look at. I'd like a Momo Prototypo but collect it would not suit to such car. Motolita perhaps? Make your suggestions please.
One more question - I'd really like to turn headlights in French way, i.e. yellow. But I have absolutely no idea how. Any suggestions?
Thank you all!
I've found a reliable source of parts in France through ebay, an amiable getleman with whom I put in close contact after buying a door mirror. I knew the car will require a big deal of parts, but it appears that my estimations were somehow detracted - almost twenty years in a barn wouldn't pass without a toll. For instance, the gearlever simply fell apart in my hand into rather small pieces of tar, and there's a great deal of vinyl falls down every time I touch the steering wheel. So I ordered a great deal of interior bits, all the belts and rollers, some filters and more. As for the fuel system, I removed the fuel tank (with diesel in it turned into oil varnish
), pump and injectors and gave them to a local garage. That's about it for the moment, and as I directly flew away to Ukraine after that
I hope to return soon and get all things sorted.Not sure on the steering wheel though. I really don't like the state of it now, and thinking of replacing it with something contemporary and pleasant to look at. I'd like a Momo Prototypo but collect it would not suit to such car. Motolita perhaps? Make your suggestions please.
One more question - I'd really like to turn headlights in French way, i.e. yellow. But I have absolutely no idea how. Any suggestions?
Thank you all!
league67 said:
If you are still in Almaty and haven't been, there is a restaurant there called 'Medved' in microdistrict 27 (IIRC). Very good chechil (spelling?) cheese and palmeny (spelling?).
Very, very cool car.
The cheese you mentioned is of Caucasian origin, and is a favourite beer snack out there. And yes you spelled that right. Not the case for pelmeni though Very, very cool car.
They are basically very fat ravioli based on pork, or meat pockets as some say, originally from China. I haven't been in the place you've mentioned, but AFAIK they specialising in Siberian cusine, and am able to give you a little chart in the PH food section if you are willing to cook these at home.Sorry for O/T. I adore Central Asian foods
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