Somehow, I bought a 5 year old Citroen C5
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boyse7en said:
Is the Hydractive 3 height adjustable (ie, can it go up and down like a 'proper' Citroen?)
Yep. Estates even have a ride height control in the boot. Biggest difference over Hippo 2 in the XM is that it's _just_ the suspension, and the pump's electronically driven rather than off the engine. Brakes and steering are "normal", not off the high pressure. It uses different fluid, LDS rather than LHM. Cleverness includes automatically reducing the ride height at speed.Pentoman said:
Surely no self-respecting Pistonheads members could be respected after buying a French car? Could they?
Errr, not me.....What is with the anti Citroen stance on here? They make some great cars. All this electrics bks is basically that, bks.
OP, love the car. Great choice, and I'm loving the tourer. Did you consider a C6 at all?
Edited by S10GTA on Friday 16th May 14:07
S10GTA said:
Pentoman said:
Surely no self-respecting Pistonheads members could be respected after buying a French car? Could they?
Errr, not me.....What is with the anti Citroen stance on here? They make some great cars. All this electrics bks is basically that, bks.
OP, love the car. Great choice, and I'm loving the tourer. Did you consider a C6 at all?
Edited by S10GTA on Friday 16th May 14:07
Nice C5, cracking motor.
Looks really nice.
I purchased a older c5 last week, i live a mile from work have a work van grand cherokee and the bongo so no idea why i thought i needed another car.
It's a sheddy £500 c5, done over 200,000 miles and the engine still sounds smooth and the suspension all works and gives a smooth ride.
Flipside though is clutch judders,needs cambelt, oil temp gauge doesn't work,wiper pump doesn't work so it's going yet the big stuff engine ,suspension still works fine.
I purchased a older c5 last week, i live a mile from work have a work van grand cherokee and the bongo so no idea why i thought i needed another car.
It's a sheddy £500 c5, done over 200,000 miles and the engine still sounds smooth and the suspension all works and gives a smooth ride.
Flipside though is clutch judders,needs cambelt, oil temp gauge doesn't work,wiper pump doesn't work so it's going yet the big stuff engine ,suspension still works fine.
Shadow R1 said:
Looks great.
Please keep the updates coming about it.
^ WHSPlease keep the updates coming about it.
So 2009 registered - a wagon - with 137,000 miles in 5 years it looks in great condition
Obviously with over 100,000 it only fit for scrap so enjoy it while you can
Link to the relevant thread here
For those that can't be bothered to click the link
lamboman100 said:
The broad fact remains -- most UK cars are ready for the dustbin when they get around ~100k miles. Whether it is mechanical / electrical scrap or economic scrap makes no difference. They still get scrapped. Buying any petrol car engine with more than 60k miles on the clock is getting into riskier territory. Car prices drop off quickly after 60k and 100k. The market knows.
OP here .
I'm kind of proud that the Tourer is getting this warm reception. It feels good to bring something new to the attention of the PH readership particularly those, like me, that knew nothing about them. Happy to try and keep the place updated with progress - work permitting.
Height is adjustable, including with a switch in the boot for loading and unloading. Apparently at speed the whole car lowers for stability and economy, the front lowering more than the rear so as to reduce lift. Likewise on rough roads it's meant to raise itself up. There's a sport button alongside the height selection, that sharpens body control and improves the front end, although it's still very soft. It's mostly better without it.
Yes, that's a Lotus Elan race car. Still as it was after completing the 6 hour endurance race at Spa-Francorchamps last year.
I like the C6 but didn't consider it. I didn't really consider the C5 either, it just came along. Would I have taken a C6 had one come along? Probably, if the value for money is the same. Although even more of a left-field choice,
700 miles done between Monday and Friday this week, finishing with a 100 mile Friday night commute out of London. The serenity at motorway speed is a great way to wind down. Only radar cruise control would help, which I don't believe is an option on these. Also, it's a bit dark inside so a glass sunroof would be a good idea. I think there's a panoramic roof option too.
I'm kind of proud that the Tourer is getting this warm reception. It feels good to bring something new to the attention of the PH readership particularly those, like me, that knew nothing about them. Happy to try and keep the place updated with progress - work permitting.
Height is adjustable, including with a switch in the boot for loading and unloading. Apparently at speed the whole car lowers for stability and economy, the front lowering more than the rear so as to reduce lift. Likewise on rough roads it's meant to raise itself up. There's a sport button alongside the height selection, that sharpens body control and improves the front end, although it's still very soft. It's mostly better without it.
Yes, that's a Lotus Elan race car. Still as it was after completing the 6 hour endurance race at Spa-Francorchamps last year.
I like the C6 but didn't consider it. I didn't really consider the C5 either, it just came along. Would I have taken a C6 had one come along? Probably, if the value for money is the same. Although even more of a left-field choice,
700 miles done between Monday and Friday this week, finishing with a 100 mile Friday night commute out of London. The serenity at motorway speed is a great way to wind down. Only radar cruise control would help, which I don't believe is an option on these. Also, it's a bit dark inside so a glass sunroof would be a good idea. I think there's a panoramic roof option too.
Edited by Pentoman on Sunday 18th May 22:51
Looks like an extremely sensible place to spend that amount of time and do those miles in.
Occasionally the 3.0 HDI comes up, I'm not ashamed to say I'd absolutely love one.
I accidently bought a Pug 407 Coupe with the 2.7 diesel over Christmas and it was a lovely, lovely engine - unfortunately the gearbox problem, lack of promised SH and particulate filter fault meant I walked.
OP, hope you continue to enjoy the Citroen.
Occasionally the 3.0 HDI comes up, I'm not ashamed to say I'd absolutely love one.
I accidently bought a Pug 407 Coupe with the 2.7 diesel over Christmas and it was a lovely, lovely engine - unfortunately the gearbox problem, lack of promised SH and particulate filter fault meant I walked.
OP, hope you continue to enjoy the Citroen.
We look after a fair few of these and in reality the only issues are the 1.6 hdis, mainly egr and particle filter issues due to the glow plugs not working, trying to replace them can be horrendous too as they snap but all the other engines are fine.
The steering wheels catch me out every time as the centre doesn't turn.
Carl
The steering wheels catch me out every time as the centre doesn't turn.
Carl
C. Grimsley said:
We look after a fair few of these and in reality the only issues are the 1.6 hdis, mainly egr and particle filter issues due to the glow plugs not working, trying to replace them can be horrendous too as they snap but all the other engines are fine.
Well that's good to know. My fingers are crossed and I'm ready to admit error to the PH brigade in the event of major failure.For the other poster asking about models and autos, I think it's a case of:
Diesels:
1.6 manual only
2.0 manual or auto (140 or 160bhp)
2.2 early models (173 bhp) manual only
2.2 later models (200 bhp) automatic only
2.7 and 3.0 V6 (208 and 240 bhp respectively) automatic only
The 2.2 (200) and 3.0 are the only models with twin trapezoidal tailpipes, one either side .
Actually for the poster asking about co2 the 3.0 auto seems tidy at 189g/km.
This 3.0 looks okay, has nav, full heated leather:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...
Massage seats are an (unfortunately rare) option along with a lot filly things steering xenon lights, Lane departure warning, parking space identification system (!). I just discoveredmy hhandbrake is auto-off. I had been disengaging it manually every time, like a twit.
Kudos, OP, for trying something different. Makes me feel very boring with my E39 525d, as much as I love it for its motorway-munching capabilities.
My grandfather had a succession of highly-specced Citroen XMs back in the day and I always found them rather charming. A quick browse through the classifieds has also revealed how cheap the C6 is nowadays... now that is mighty tempting for when the old beemer dies...
My grandfather had a succession of highly-specced Citroen XMs back in the day and I always found them rather charming. A quick browse through the classifieds has also revealed how cheap the C6 is nowadays... now that is mighty tempting for when the old beemer dies...
Hi OP,
First time I have seen this thread. I'm glad you like the car. I have a C5 3.0HDi Auto Saloon and love it. Mine has full leather and some of the other gadgets you mention, but not lane departure control. I have never used the device that measures parking spaces, as my eyes can do that for me. The seats are heated with a massage function on the drivers seat only.
I bought the car at 2 years old, and have owned it 18 months and done around 35k miles in it during my ownership. The reliability (including all electrics) has been perfect with one caveat. My car has 19" wheels which seem to be made from cheese. So far I have bent the front left alloy twice, and cracked it once. All on our lovely, pot-holed A-roads. The wheels also cause excessive and tiresome road noise, and the tyres are around £200 each to replace. I wish the fronts would do more than 15k miles too.
That's my only gripe. I hope to be keeping it for another 18 months at least....
First time I have seen this thread. I'm glad you like the car. I have a C5 3.0HDi Auto Saloon and love it. Mine has full leather and some of the other gadgets you mention, but not lane departure control. I have never used the device that measures parking spaces, as my eyes can do that for me. The seats are heated with a massage function on the drivers seat only.
I bought the car at 2 years old, and have owned it 18 months and done around 35k miles in it during my ownership. The reliability (including all electrics) has been perfect with one caveat. My car has 19" wheels which seem to be made from cheese. So far I have bent the front left alloy twice, and cracked it once. All on our lovely, pot-holed A-roads. The wheels also cause excessive and tiresome road noise, and the tyres are around £200 each to replace. I wish the fronts would do more than 15k miles too.
That's my only gripe. I hope to be keeping it for another 18 months at least....
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