Somehow, I bought a 5 year old Citroen C5

Somehow, I bought a 5 year old Citroen C5

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TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Friday 16th May 2014
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boyse7en said:
Is the Hydractive 3 height adjustable (ie, can it go up and down like a 'proper' Citroen?)
Yep. Estates even have a ride height control in the boot. Biggest difference over Hippo 2 in the XM is that it's _just_ the suspension, and the pump's electronically driven rather than off the engine. Brakes and steering are "normal", not off the high pressure. It uses different fluid, LDS rather than LHM. Cleverness includes automatically reducing the ride height at speed.

S10GTA

12,678 posts

167 months

Friday 16th May 2014
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Pentoman said:
Surely no self-respecting Pistonheads members could be respected after buying a French car? Could they?
Errr, not me.....

What is with the anti Citroen stance on here? They make some great cars. All this electrics bks is basically that, bks.

OP, love the car. Great choice, and I'm loving the tourer. Did you consider a C6 at all?

Edited by S10GTA on Friday 16th May 14:07

Alfahorn

7,766 posts

208 months

Friday 16th May 2014
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S10GTA said:
Pentoman said:
Surely no self-respecting Pistonheads members could be respected after buying a French car? Could they?
Errr, not me.....

What is with the anti Citroen stance on here? They make some great cars. All this electrics bks is basically that, bks.

OP, love the car. Great choice, and I'm loving the tourer. Did you consider a C6 at all?

Edited by S10GTA on Friday 16th May 14:07
Yep, just like the bks spouted about Alfa. wink

Nice C5, cracking motor.

Spare tyre

9,565 posts

130 months

Friday 16th May 2014
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my ol dad has had every largeish citroen going (apart from the c6)

all been great

egor110

16,860 posts

203 months

Friday 16th May 2014
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Looks really nice.

I purchased a older c5 last week, i live a mile from work have a work van grand cherokee and the bongo so no idea why i thought i needed another car.

It's a sheddy £500 c5, done over 200,000 miles and the engine still sounds smooth and the suspension all works and gives a smooth ride.

Flipside though is clutch judders,needs cambelt, oil temp gauge doesn't work,wiper pump doesn't work so it's going yet the big stuff engine ,suspension still works fine.

Foppo

2,344 posts

124 months

Friday 16th May 2014
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Nice car for a good price.I drive a GCP4 Picasso a bit of a barge I call it a cargo ship.Very comfortable to drive.

Good luck with your car and enjoy the miles.>smile

Shadow R1

3,800 posts

176 months

Friday 16th May 2014
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Looks great.

Please keep the updates coming about it. smile

B'stard Child

28,393 posts

246 months

Friday 16th May 2014
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Shadow R1 said:
Looks great.

Please keep the updates coming about it. smile
^ WHS

So 2009 registered - a wagon - with 137,000 miles in 5 years it looks in great condition

Obviously with over 100,000 it only fit for scrap so enjoy it while you can

Link to the relevant thread here

For those that can't be bothered to click the link

lamboman100 said:
The broad fact remains -- most UK cars are ready for the dustbin when they get around ~100k miles. Whether it is mechanical / electrical scrap or economic scrap makes no difference. They still get scrapped. Buying any petrol car engine with more than 60k miles on the clock is getting into riskier territory. Car prices drop off quickly after 60k and 100k. The market knows.

DS3R

9,872 posts

166 months

Friday 16th May 2014
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You have an enviable 3 car garage OP! A lot of fine bases covered.

Pentoman

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4,814 posts

263 months

Saturday 17th May 2014
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OP here smile.

I'm kind of proud that the Tourer is getting this warm reception. It feels good to bring something new to the attention of the PH readership particularly those, like me, that knew nothing about them. Happy to try and keep the place updated with progress - work permitting.

Height is adjustable, including with a switch in the boot for loading and unloading. Apparently at speed the whole car lowers for stability and economy, the front lowering more than the rear so as to reduce lift. Likewise on rough roads it's meant to raise itself up. There's a sport button alongside the height selection, that sharpens body control and improves the front end, although it's still very soft. It's mostly better without it.

Yes, that's a Lotus Elan race car. Still as it was after completing the 6 hour endurance race at Spa-Francorchamps last year.

I like the C6 but didn't consider it. I didn't really consider the C5 either, it just came along. Would I have taken a C6 had one come along? Probably, if the value for money is the same. Although even more of a left-field choice,

700 miles done between Monday and Friday this week, finishing with a 100 mile Friday night commute out of London. The serenity at motorway speed is a great way to wind down. Only radar cruise control would help, which I don't believe is an option on these. Also, it's a bit dark inside so a glass sunroof would be a good idea. I think there's a panoramic roof option too.

Edited by Pentoman on Sunday 18th May 22:51

Pentoman

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4,814 posts

263 months

Saturday 17th May 2014
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Oh, one more question.

I believe this 173bhp biturbo engine will remap to 200 or so. Could anyone recommend a place that can be trusted to remap what is a fairly recently released, modern and complex engine. Same as fitted to various Citroen/Peugeot/Land Rover/Jaguar/Mondeo products.

Benbay001

5,795 posts

157 months

Saturday 17th May 2014
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I had to drive a DS3 for 3 hours a couple months back.

I dreaded it. But when i actually made the journey it was lovely! So comfy. Quiet. Economical. And it has a lovely stereo.

Id completely dismissed PSA before then.

Barchettaman

6,308 posts

132 months

Saturday 17th May 2014
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Looks like an extremely sensible place to spend that amount of time and do those miles in.
Occasionally the 3.0 HDI comes up, I'm not ashamed to say I'd absolutely love one.

I accidently bought a Pug 407 Coupe with the 2.7 diesel over Christmas and it was a lovely, lovely engine - unfortunately the gearbox problem, lack of promised SH and particulate filter fault meant I walked.

OP, hope you continue to enjoy the Citroen.

Sir Fergie

795 posts

135 months

Saturday 17th May 2014
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This is quite interesting to say the least

What are the C02 emissions on this - and do they come in Auto???

And is reliability generally good on these newer C5s????


C. Grimsley

1,364 posts

195 months

Sunday 18th May 2014
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We look after a fair few of these and in reality the only issues are the 1.6 hdis, mainly egr and particle filter issues due to the glow plugs not working, trying to replace them can be horrendous too as they snap but all the other engines are fine.

The steering wheels catch me out every time as the centre doesn't turn.

Carl

B'stard Child

28,393 posts

246 months

Sunday 18th May 2014
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Sir Fergie said:
This is quite interesting to say the least

What are the C02 emissions on this - and do they come in Auto???

And is reliability generally good on these newer C5s????
CO2 175 - Band H £205 per year VED

Seems like the 2.0 and 2.7 V6 only come in auto

Sir Fergie

795 posts

135 months

Sunday 18th May 2014
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B'stard Child said:
CO2 175 - Band H £205 per year VED

Seems like the 2.0 and 2.7 V6 only come in auto
Thanks a million for the replies

You mean auto gearbox was only available on the 2.0 and 2.7???.


Pentoman

Original Poster:

4,814 posts

263 months

Sunday 18th May 2014
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C. Grimsley said:
We look after a fair few of these and in reality the only issues are the 1.6 hdis, mainly egr and particle filter issues due to the glow plugs not working, trying to replace them can be horrendous too as they snap but all the other engines are fine.
Well that's good to know. My fingers are crossed and I'm ready to admit error to the PH brigade in the event of major failure.

For the other poster asking about models and autos, I think it's a case of:

Diesels:
1.6 manual only
2.0 manual or auto (140 or 160bhp)
2.2 early models (173 bhp) manual only
2.2 later models (200 bhp) automatic only
2.7 and 3.0 V6 (208 and 240 bhp respectively) automatic only

The 2.2 (200) and 3.0 are the only models with twin trapezoidal tailpipes, one either side .

Actually for the poster asking about co2 the 3.0 auto seems tidy at 189g/km.

This 3.0 looks okay, has nav, full heated leather:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...

Massage seats are an (unfortunately rare) option along with a lot filly things steering xenon lights, Lane departure warning, parking space identification system (!). I just discoveredmy hhandbrake is auto-off. I had been disengaging it manually every time, like a twit.

benedwards64

2,346 posts

134 months

Sunday 18th May 2014
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Kudos, OP, for trying something different. Makes me feel very boring with my E39 525d, as much as I love it for its motorway-munching capabilities.

My grandfather had a succession of highly-specced Citroen XMs back in the day and I always found them rather charming. A quick browse through the classifieds has also revealed how cheap the C6 is nowadays... now that is mighty tempting for when the old beemer dies...

slicknic

57 posts

130 months

Wednesday 21st May 2014
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Hi OP,

First time I have seen this thread. I'm glad you like the car. I have a C5 3.0HDi Auto Saloon and love it. Mine has full leather and some of the other gadgets you mention, but not lane departure control. I have never used the device that measures parking spaces, as my eyes can do that for me. The seats are heated with a massage function on the drivers seat only.

I bought the car at 2 years old, and have owned it 18 months and done around 35k miles in it during my ownership. The reliability (including all electrics) has been perfect with one caveat. My car has 19" wheels which seem to be made from cheese. So far I have bent the front left alloy twice, and cracked it once. All on our lovely, pot-holed A-roads. The wheels also cause excessive and tiresome road noise, and the tyres are around £200 each to replace. I wish the fronts would do more than 15k miles too.

That's my only gripe. I hope to be keeping it for another 18 months at least....