Sacrilegious Jag and another hack job

Sacrilegious Jag and another hack job

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sacrilege

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11 posts

119 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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Simes110 said:
At first, I wanted to hate you for wasting a beautiful Series III Jaguar, but I really rather admire the job you've done there.

I'd like to see more, if you've the inclinaion for a detailed write-up.
Thanks! As for the write-up, well it was mostly a matter of fabricate everything myself as (to my knowlegde) this swap had never been done before. I made my own exhaust manifolds, engine and transmission mounts, shift linkage and modified the front crossmember to clear the V8 oilpan. Then of course all the little bits like the wiring (and getting all the instruments to read correctly again), fluids plumbing, etc. etc. Maybe I will do a write-up similar to what I did for the Porsche sometime...but maybe not...

Pappagallo said:
Love the Jag - does that bonnet actually close? wink
You bet, not a whole lot of clearance I admit, here you can see how the engine sits height wise:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPcCrSmhgn4

And if you have a decent set of speakers then here you can here how she sounds:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sq2y1QzHQN0



steveo3002

10,535 posts

175 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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jag is cool , makes sense to keep it in use with a reliable modern engine but still has the classic looks

LanceRS

2,174 posts

138 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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Are you using the BMW ECU? How was it tying to get it all working?

dragonheart

770 posts

183 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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Love the 944, great work.

Stuart Thompson

581 posts

164 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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What a waste of a perfectly good M60 biggrin

Benbay001

5,801 posts

158 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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Thats fantastic. Id love to swap a more modern engine into a classic.

sacrilege

Original Poster:

11 posts

119 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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LanceRS said:
Are you using the BMW ECU? How was it tying to get it all working?
Yes. Pretty easy on the BMW side, it's a 1994 motor so does not yet have the electronic immobilizer. On the Jag side a bit more complicated as the wiring diagrams I could find online did not completely match what I found on my car.

sacrilege

Original Poster:

11 posts

119 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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Stuart Thompson said:
What a waste of a perfectly good M60 biggrin
True biggrin

shalmaneser

5,936 posts

196 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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Wow what a great job you did on the Porsche engine conversion. Having done a (very simple!) conversion on my 205 I'm seriously impressed at the amount of work you've put in and the excellent end result - looks totally factory!

ManOpener

12,467 posts

170 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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shalmaneser said:
Wow what a great job you did on the Porsche engine conversion. Having done a (very simple!) conversion on my 205 I'm seriously impressed at the amount of work you've put in and the excellent end result - looks totally factory!
I'm sure someone will come along and correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the 7A/3B/ABY Audi 2.2/2.3 I5 (so both turbo and non-turbo) into a 944 is actually a fairly common and well catalogued swap that's facilitated largely by the fact that a fair portion of it basically just bolts together like it was OEM, engine mounts and electronics aside? Seen a few ABY or ADU powered 944 turbos, generally in the 'states and Scandinavia as getting ridiculous power out of the Audi motor (as in, 650bhp+) is fairly easy and cheap compared to the Porsche 4-pot.

Not to diminish what is an absolutely awesome bit of work in any way...

sacrilege

Original Poster:

11 posts

119 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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Thanks guys. Well documented? You may find that those other builds are based mostly on the information provided on my website ;-) Prior to this going online there was not much to be found on the web regarding this swap. My 'method' is a budget one and quite different from the 600+ hp builds from Scandinavia that I have seen where very little if the original 944 driveline is retained.

shalmaneser

5,936 posts

196 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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ManOpener said:
shalmaneser said:
Wow what a great job you did on the Porsche engine conversion. Having done a (very simple!) conversion on my 205 I'm seriously impressed at the amount of work you've put in and the excellent end result - looks totally factory!
I'm sure someone will come along and correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the 7A/3B/ABY Audi 2.2/2.3 I5 (so both turbo and non-turbo) into a 944 is actually a fairly common and well catalogued swap that's facilitated largely by the fact that a fair portion of it basically just bolts together like it was OEM, engine mounts and electronics aside? Seen a few ABY or ADU powered 944 turbos, generally in the 'states and Scandinavia as getting ridiculous power out of the Audi motor (as in, 650bhp+) is fairly easy and cheap compared to the Porsche 4-pot.

Not to diminish what is an absolutely awesome bit of work in any way...
Fabricating an exhaust manifold? Rather you than me!

ManOpener

12,467 posts

170 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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shalmaneser said:
ManOpener said:
shalmaneser said:
Wow what a great job you did on the Porsche engine conversion. Having done a (very simple!) conversion on my 205 I'm seriously impressed at the amount of work you've put in and the excellent end result - looks totally factory!
I'm sure someone will come along and correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the 7A/3B/ABY Audi 2.2/2.3 I5 (so both turbo and non-turbo) into a 944 is actually a fairly common and well catalogued swap that's facilitated largely by the fact that a fair portion of it basically just bolts together like it was OEM, engine mounts and electronics aside? Seen a few ABY or ADU powered 944 turbos, generally in the 'states and Scandinavia as getting ridiculous power out of the Audi motor (as in, 650bhp+) is fairly easy and cheap compared to the Porsche 4-pot.

Not to diminish what is an absolutely awesome bit of work in any way...
Fabricating an exhaust manifold? Rather you than me!
Like I said, not to diminish what is still an incredibly complex job and awesome bit of work. I dream of being even half as competent as the OP is when it comes to this kind of thing. Even a fifth as competent would be a nice bonus. I was just pointing out that for what seems like a very off-the-wall swap, quite a lot of it- transmission in particular- is supposed to bolt up out of the box.

Though having read the OP's blog and comments it does appear that he was one of the people actually finding out this stuff, and contributing to making it a more common swap!

Prawnboy

1,326 posts

148 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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i should hate the jag, but i don't.
good work on both.

guru_1071

2,768 posts

235 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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Jaguar steve

9,232 posts

211 months

Monday 25th August 2014
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Perfect. Classic XJ with a modern fuel efficient engine and some serious poke. I like that a lot. smile

sacrilege

Original Poster:

11 posts

119 months

Friday 4th September 2015
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTC4BDVp0Vs

Microphone may have been an bit close to the exhaust... :-)

Church of Noise

1,458 posts

238 months

Sunday 6th September 2015
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Excellent stuff!

Bring it to the Spa 6 hours in two weeks please, would love to see it smile