Mk5 GTI with Air ride
Discussion
greggy50 said:
Glad I don't bother with the VW scene the only thing people seem to do is slam a car and change the wheels maybe fit an interior from a nicer model and that's it. Just no innovation at all go to shows and all the cars are basically the same everything that wins seems to be a brand new audi/vw in poverty spec with air suspension some stupidly expensive wheels and the seats out an RS4 trimmed in a stupid colour.
This seems a nice enough car if into that but the chassis notch seems a bit silly to me and as other have said it techincally need an IVA test... however it would be nice to have seen you maybe do something different and make it more track biased or whatever instead of just being a sheep. Also I have driven a couple of cars on air suspension and for me they do not handle as well as a decent set of coilovers.
This. This seems a nice enough car if into that but the chassis notch seems a bit silly to me and as other have said it techincally need an IVA test... however it would be nice to have seen you maybe do something different and make it more track biased or whatever instead of just being a sheep. Also I have driven a couple of cars on air suspension and for me they do not handle as well as a decent set of coilovers.
The best car on the scene for me is Hamish's home build shorty sport quattro (which he cut and welded himself and fitted an S2 engine into before anyone kicks off about crash structures and safety etc etc)
No air, silly retrim or silly big wheels in sight.
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Edited by Sat90 on Wednesday 25th June 09:57
Edited by Sat90 on Wednesday 25th June 09:57
IMO it would be much better being built as a sleeper, a very rapid sleeper at that.
Anyway, I have a question or two about air ride -
Does the car lose pressure to all airbags in the event of a failure of the system and components?
Would the failure be catastrophic - eg a hose comes out of the airbag connection - what happens - do you lose ride height equally or will the affected corner change its dynamics at a faster rate than the other airbags?
Believe it or not I have assisted with the install of one of these systems for a (at the time) chum, the push fit connections and plastic pneumatic hoses seemed very susceptible to wear and failure especially being that close to the road...
Anyway, I have a question or two about air ride -
Does the car lose pressure to all airbags in the event of a failure of the system and components?
Would the failure be catastrophic - eg a hose comes out of the airbag connection - what happens - do you lose ride height equally or will the affected corner change its dynamics at a faster rate than the other airbags?
Believe it or not I have assisted with the install of one of these systems for a (at the time) chum, the push fit connections and plastic pneumatic hoses seemed very susceptible to wear and failure especially being that close to the road...
hman said:
IMO it would be much better being built as a sleeper, a very rapid sleeper at that.
Anyway, I have a question or two about air ride -
Does the car lose pressure to all airbags in the event of a failure of the system and components?
Would the failure be catastrophic - eg a hose comes out of the airbag connection - what happens - do you lose ride height equally or will the affected corner change its dynamics at a faster rate than the other airbags?
Believe it or not I have assisted with the install of one of these systems for a (at the time) chum, the push fit connections and plastic pneumatic hoses seemed very susceptible to wear and failure especially being that close to the road...
Yes, it would simply collapse.. each bag has it's own air line with metal connections (no plastic ones here) so all good in that regard. So if the front left one came lose or broke the front left bag would lose pressure.Anyway, I have a question or two about air ride -
Does the car lose pressure to all airbags in the event of a failure of the system and components?
Would the failure be catastrophic - eg a hose comes out of the airbag connection - what happens - do you lose ride height equally or will the affected corner change its dynamics at a faster rate than the other airbags?
Believe it or not I have assisted with the install of one of these systems for a (at the time) chum, the push fit connections and plastic pneumatic hoses seemed very susceptible to wear and failure especially being that close to the road...
Had it a year now and had no issues thankfully.
Sat90 said:
yonex said:
Sat90 said:
That a car on air can handle and has been proven in races all over the world by AirLift Performance and Airrex systems.
someone in the comments said:
Air ride is for show, as seen by the 26th place with 520whp...
Sat90 said:
yonex said:
Sat90 said:
That a car on air can handle and has been proven in races all over the world by AirLift Performance and Airrex systems.
someone in the comments said:
Air ride is for show, as seen by the 26th place with 520whp...
TheAngryDog said:
Sat90 said:
yonex said:
Sat90 said:
That a car on air can handle and has been proven in races all over the world by AirLift Performance and Airrex systems.
someone in the comments said:
Air ride is for show, as seen by the 26th place with 520whp...
Sat90 said:
TheAngryDog said:
Sat90 said:
yonex said:
Sat90 said:
That a car on air can handle and has been proven in races all over the world by AirLift Performance and Airrex systems.
someone in the comments said:
Air ride is for show, as seen by the 26th place with 520whp...
Your point is both null and void so far as the video is concerned.
TheAngryDog said:
Sat90 said:
TheAngryDog said:
Sat90 said:
yonex said:
Sat90 said:
That a car on air can handle and has been proven in races all over the world by AirLift Performance and Airrex systems.
someone in the comments said:
Air ride is for show, as seen by the 26th place with 520whp...
Your point is both null and void so far as the video is concerned.
Even if the car had 520whp, the driver may or may not have had much racing experience compaed to other drivers. Your comment is void based on the varying degrees of driver skill which would have had a huge effect on the placings, not just power.
All the video is there to prove is that air ride isn't a hindrance, nor an advantage in handling but ultimately doesn't compare to a well sorted chassis set up. And it alo states in the video that the AirLift Subaru was the only car running air.
For all you know, the cars who finished behind may have had more power but less experienced drivers.
This all seems like a whole load of arguing for no real reason except for some folk to release some gas from their bodies without parting their lips or bumcheeks....
Edited by Sat90 on Wednesday 25th June 12:38
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