Mk5 GTI with Air ride
Discussion
rb5er said:
Yes indeed, which is why I was querying the previous comment as quoted.
You don`t have to own a superior car to be able to have an opinion and comment on something.
You can't really mug off other peoples cars if you drive a Corsa (for example).You don`t have to own a superior car to be able to have an opinion and comment on something.
Just had a packet of Skips for breakfast.
xjay1337 said:
rb5er said:
Yes indeed, which is why I was querying the previous comment as quoted.
You don`t have to own a superior car to be able to have an opinion and comment on something.
You can't really mug off other peoples cars if you drive a Corsa (for example).You don`t have to own a superior car to be able to have an opinion and comment on something.
Never understood the "you can't judge my car if you drive something I think is inferior" mentality. Surely if you didn't want people's input on it, you wouldn't post pictures of it on a public forum?
Edited by ManOpener on Thursday 26th June 10:30
Thing is, there's a reason why vosa will confiscate and crush a car with monocoque modifications that haven't been iva'd - the potential consequences are so high.
Even an engine transplant requires an engineers report (note, proper engineer, not heating 'engineer').
May look fine etc., that doesn't matter. What matters is a level of inspection and calculation to confirm a non dangerous situation.
Yes, hot rods have had notched chassis for years - guess what they go through iva or its sva predecessor (which was replaced as it wasn't strenuous enough, particularly it seems with respect to chassis quality).
If the job is done well, from both a design and application perspective, then it'll pass just fine. It'll also keep the age related plate and not need a Q plate (as my completely different from donor(s) kit car has - no Q plate to be seen).
So no impact to the owner, apart from a very small cost.
OP, whilst you may have declared your mod to your insurers, they don't actually care if your car is Road legal at the point of insuring. They only care at time of claim, especially where a third party is involved. So the fact you've told them you've notched the chassis means that the very first question they'll look to answer in the event of a claim is 'is it legal' - mot/iva certs will be asked for. Without those, life is likely to take an exceptionally different route from the one you intend...
Even an engine transplant requires an engineers report (note, proper engineer, not heating 'engineer').
May look fine etc., that doesn't matter. What matters is a level of inspection and calculation to confirm a non dangerous situation.
Yes, hot rods have had notched chassis for years - guess what they go through iva or its sva predecessor (which was replaced as it wasn't strenuous enough, particularly it seems with respect to chassis quality).
If the job is done well, from both a design and application perspective, then it'll pass just fine. It'll also keep the age related plate and not need a Q plate (as my completely different from donor(s) kit car has - no Q plate to be seen).
So no impact to the owner, apart from a very small cost.
OP, whilst you may have declared your mod to your insurers, they don't actually care if your car is Road legal at the point of insuring. They only care at time of claim, especially where a third party is involved. So the fact you've told them you've notched the chassis means that the very first question they'll look to answer in the event of a claim is 'is it legal' - mot/iva certs will be asked for. Without those, life is likely to take an exceptionally different route from the one you intend...
stuart-b said:
You are wasting your time if you think I'll say "thanks for that informative link" and then say he hasn't weakened the chassis.
As I said already, you can't generalise and say "one job done well means all jobs are done well".
Each notch would need to be individually inspected, stress tested and then regularly checked against future fractures - so why bother? We know this won't be done, and it will never be looked at again, unless it fails, or someone in a crash gets seriously injured. There can be issues with the weld, it opens the metal to corrosion and oxidation, can you see rust from the inside? Not until it's too late.
What you have just posted there is akin to "I just knocked walls down in my house and replaced them with steel beams for that open plan look, therefore, all steel beams in all houses around the world are therefore strong."
The E46 and Z3 BMWs suffer from boot floor failure from stress (especially M3). The entire sub-frame needs replacing - huge job. That is in spite of BMW's advanced engineering.
You think cutting holes and doing DIY welding on a structural component, is OK? It won't support the same amount of stress as it was originally designed to, and you have no idea of the knock on effect of this in an accident. End of story.
Not to mention the fact that if you structurally modify the shell of a monocoque shell, you have to submit the car for an IVA, meaning you'd also have to re-register it. This car would end up on a Q-plate, as it's not brand new. Nothing to do with my opinion on the car itself, that's just how the law states it.As I said already, you can't generalise and say "one job done well means all jobs are done well".
Each notch would need to be individually inspected, stress tested and then regularly checked against future fractures - so why bother? We know this won't be done, and it will never be looked at again, unless it fails, or someone in a crash gets seriously injured. There can be issues with the weld, it opens the metal to corrosion and oxidation, can you see rust from the inside? Not until it's too late.
What you have just posted there is akin to "I just knocked walls down in my house and replaced them with steel beams for that open plan look, therefore, all steel beams in all houses around the world are therefore strong."
The E46 and Z3 BMWs suffer from boot floor failure from stress (especially M3). The entire sub-frame needs replacing - huge job. That is in spite of BMW's advanced engineering.
You think cutting holes and doing DIY welding on a structural component, is OK? It won't support the same amount of stress as it was originally designed to, and you have no idea of the knock on effect of this in an accident. End of story.
Go read it in the IVA manual, it's in there in black & white. I had no idea people were taking grinders to car shells to make them sit lower. If that goes belly-up and someone gets hurt, you'll get bummed.
xjay1337 said:
FPN was for "failure to display front number plate".
And that my friends is the scene VW life.
And that my friends is the scene VW life.
In a few years time you'll look back at this 'scene' and laugh at yourself. Until then good work paying my taxes and giving the Police something to focus on.
I bet the FPN went down a storm at the carpark
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