Ferrari F430 Spider
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Vitorio said:
Excellent work! shaving 100kg off of a car like that without impacting comfort is no simple feat! I wouldnt even know where to start on my own car without making it less comfortable! (well, besides replacing the washer bottle for a smaller one..)
Or not filling it all the way to the top 
Vitorio said:
Excellent work! shaving 100kg off of a car like that without impacting comfort is no simple feat! I wouldnt even know where to start on my own car without making it less comfortable! (well, besides replacing the washer bottle for a smaller one..)
Thanks.TuxMan said:
Great work as normal , any estimation of time when you will be back on the road ?
The plan is Saturday 2nd July for a geo setup and first shakedown drive. I may be off target by a couple of weeks, but the real deadline is Friday 29th July; I need to make Silverstone Classic that weekend.A couple of small bits.
Firstly another change to suit the Scuderia exhaust/rear cross member and carbon plenum. On all F430 & Scuderia models there is an engine vacuum accumulator mounted behind the LH tail lamps which serves the exhaust flap valves, but on Scuderia models there is an additional take off for the pulse air injection valve and the two vacuum hoses linking it to the inlet are different to suit the carbon plenum.
I've bought the Scuderia accumulator and specific hoses from the Glickenhaus car.
Here's my original.
Here's the Scuderia version. Note the second take off for the pulse air system. I also noticed that in addition to the exhaust valve to exhaust valve hose the accumulator to valve hose is also silicone; on the F430 this section is rubber.
Something for the interior and another change to make the car into the spec I would have ordered from new: a rosso instrument cluster cowl. It has bianco stitching but that's fine - I have a black Sharpie and a glass of brandy in front of me.
I've created a Photoshop mock-up of the steering wheel that will accompany it once I track down a Scuderia LED wheel to be retrimmed.
Firstly another change to suit the Scuderia exhaust/rear cross member and carbon plenum. On all F430 & Scuderia models there is an engine vacuum accumulator mounted behind the LH tail lamps which serves the exhaust flap valves, but on Scuderia models there is an additional take off for the pulse air injection valve and the two vacuum hoses linking it to the inlet are different to suit the carbon plenum.
I've bought the Scuderia accumulator and specific hoses from the Glickenhaus car.
Here's my original.
Here's the Scuderia version. Note the second take off for the pulse air system. I also noticed that in addition to the exhaust valve to exhaust valve hose the accumulator to valve hose is also silicone; on the F430 this section is rubber.
Something for the interior and another change to make the car into the spec I would have ordered from new: a rosso instrument cluster cowl. It has bianco stitching but that's fine - I have a black Sharpie and a glass of brandy in front of me.
I've created a Photoshop mock-up of the steering wheel that will accompany it once I track down a Scuderia LED wheel to be retrimmed.
It's your car, but I feel compelled to interject too; that steering wheel is not worthy. It's a bit... messy? Shouty?
Everything else is truly fantastic, and this is my favourite thread on PH at the moment. I love when there's a new update. So, I hope you don't take the above as some random just being mean on the internet. I really think, disregarding personal tastes for a moment, that it's somehow not in keeping. Too many textures, shades, mismatching materials... I think there are aesthetic "rules" being breached.
Anyway, at least if you do go with it, you'll maybe have given it a second thought and so you'll be really, really sure! Glad I could help.
Everything else is truly fantastic, and this is my favourite thread on PH at the moment. I love when there's a new update. So, I hope you don't take the above as some random just being mean on the internet. I really think, disregarding personal tastes for a moment, that it's somehow not in keeping. Too many textures, shades, mismatching materials... I think there are aesthetic "rules" being breached.
Anyway, at least if you do go with it, you'll maybe have given it a second thought and so you'll be really, really sure! Glad I could help.
mwstewart said:
Warmfuzzies said:
Most of the work is fab, but ditch the PS3 inspired steering wheel please; a little is good, but this just seems like a bit too much....
Interiors and colours are a very personal thing.
TartanPaint said:
It's your car, but I feel compelled to interject too; that steering wheel is not worthy. It's a bit... messy? Shouty?
Everything else is truly fantastic, and this is my favourite thread on PH at the moment. I love when there's a new update. So, I hope you don't take the above as some random just being mean on the internet. I really think, disregarding personal tastes for a moment, that it's somehow not in keeping. Too many textures, shades, mismatching materials... I think there are aesthetic "rules" being breached.
Anyway, at least if you do go with it, you'll maybe have given it a second thought and so you'll be really, really sure! Glad I could help.
That's fine - bright colours and contrasting colours are very specific choices that aren't for everyone, especially not when used together.Everything else is truly fantastic, and this is my favourite thread on PH at the moment. I love when there's a new update. So, I hope you don't take the above as some random just being mean on the internet. I really think, disregarding personal tastes for a moment, that it's somehow not in keeping. Too many textures, shades, mismatching materials... I think there are aesthetic "rules" being breached.
Anyway, at least if you do go with it, you'll maybe have given it a second thought and so you'll be really, really sure! Glad I could help.
One of the many aspects I love about these cars is their celebration of sound and colour. I have a photo library of most schemes that were built
A few are below.
I'd have shuddered at some of the biscuit leather in there, until I saw my current A6, complete with biscuit colour leather and it looked so right. Eye of the behoder and all that. I do like the classic style seat squabs with the strapping though. Probably not for you OP - surely that's excess material, right?
Smitters said:
I'd have shuddered at some of the biscuit leather in there, until I saw my current A6, complete with biscuit colour leather and it looked so right. Eye of the behoder and all that. I do like the classic style seat squabs with the strapping though. Probably not for you OP - surely that's excess material, right?
They are called 'Daytona' seats and are standard seats with the leather detail. Very classic but personally I think they belong in an older car. The carbon seats never came that style of trim.Exra weight and also not as comfortable because you're sat on extra thick sections of leather.
P.S. I love tan/biscuit. Especially with a nice wood trim set.
http://ferrarioc.com/ have finished with my Scuderia cluster. It has been reprogrammed for a Spider, my data swapped over etc. Rod did not have any metric auxiliary gauge faces so I'll make my own.
I've got some 599/Scuderia CCM calipers to suit the 398mm discs. These calipers are essentially the same family but have more reinforcement around the pad area to facilitate larger pads without suffering undue flex. There will be a weight penalty with these which I'll evaluate later on. I'm going to have them refurbished in giallo/yellow.
My complete front brake setup will be for sale.
Rear cross member detail
A few more pics from the rear bumper conversion. On the F430 the engine lid release cable runs underneath the cross member, but on the Scuderia it runs on top and directly through the reinforcement panels for the new exhaust outlets. I've replicated there here. It may seem like an insignificant change but it's small details like this that give a lot of satisfaction.
On the F430 some of the rear wiring loom runs above the cross member, but on the Scuderia it runs underneath and is fastened to the exhaust panel reinforcements with P clips. I have also insulated the loom with heat barrier as per OEM.
I had to extend one wire to rear the engine lid closed switch/sensor.
The final change was to add spacers for the upper bumper mounts. I fabricated these after measuring the gap with bumper installed, and managed to get them perfectly accurate such that spacers aren't required - more weight saving over the F430.
I'm really happy with the result given I’ve had only the following two photos to work from.
I've got some 599/Scuderia CCM calipers to suit the 398mm discs. These calipers are essentially the same family but have more reinforcement around the pad area to facilitate larger pads without suffering undue flex. There will be a weight penalty with these which I'll evaluate later on. I'm going to have them refurbished in giallo/yellow.
My complete front brake setup will be for sale.
Rear cross member detail
A few more pics from the rear bumper conversion. On the F430 the engine lid release cable runs underneath the cross member, but on the Scuderia it runs on top and directly through the reinforcement panels for the new exhaust outlets. I've replicated there here. It may seem like an insignificant change but it's small details like this that give a lot of satisfaction.
On the F430 some of the rear wiring loom runs above the cross member, but on the Scuderia it runs underneath and is fastened to the exhaust panel reinforcements with P clips. I have also insulated the loom with heat barrier as per OEM.
I had to extend one wire to rear the engine lid closed switch/sensor.
The final change was to add spacers for the upper bumper mounts. I fabricated these after measuring the gap with bumper installed, and managed to get them perfectly accurate such that spacers aren't required - more weight saving over the F430.
I'm really happy with the result given I’ve had only the following two photos to work from.
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